Do you have that feeling that a lot of dirty political tricks are taking place?

[Skwmom]

Especially when you look at the players involved...

[Katashi_itto]

1. Is the pope catholic?

[Skwmom]

2. I for one have never been a big believer in "mere coincidences." n/t

[Katashi_itto]

4. :)

[leveymg]

28. Lies are just as essential to her campaign as money. nt

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. Nope.

[randome]

5. It's a campaign. The dark, paranoid fantasies that DUers promote are just that: fantasies.

Your non-specific 'lot of dirty political tricks' is just a step on the way to acceptance.
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[SheenaR]

9. Do you walk around in public with blindfolds on

or do you just analyze politics with them. Curious. This isn't 9th grade class President they are running for. Every dirty thing they can do is being done and it's not a fantasy

[randome]

12. But not everything you disagree with is a 'dirty trick'.

As far too many on DU seem to think. Again, it's a campaign. Of course our two candidates will try to out-maneuver one another and even -OH! HORRORS!- sometimes disparage one another!

Does all that count as 'dirty tricks'? Is the delegate/superdelegate system a 'dirty trick'? Is 'whore' a 'dirty trick'? I'd say neither of those are and it's dismaying to see so many expend energy and time on them.
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[JudyM]

15. Like the way Hillary's strongest sections of NY open at 6am and others open at noon? Not dirty,

I'm sure.

[randome]

21. If you seriously think Supreme Monster Clinton ordered this, you are...weird.

Well, I like weird but in this case, I hardly see it as a 'dirty trick' unless you think all of New York's polls and workers and surrounding administrators are all in on the scheme.

I can safely say that's not the case.
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[JudyM]

23. Oh, I'm sure it's just an accident. Like all the other disenfranchising changes that have been

happening around the country.

Do I think she ordered these things directly and specifically? No. Do I think her implicit messaging through her campaign minions is to be as "creative" as possible to minimize Bernie's votes à la Rove? Positively. If you don't, you are surely not paying close attention.

[SheenaR]

16. Ok... This I agree with

I misunderstood and thought you meant that we have a clean campaign going on. I agree that every aspect of it does not require the dirty trick treatment

[randome]

20. Both candidates and their supporters have said stupid things.

And sometimes they even DO stupid things. But it's the nature of a campaign. We spend far too much time on this site 'debating' about which candidate is more hurtful than the other. It's ridiculous.
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[Skwmom]

10. In politics it makes PERFECT sense to accept everything at face value, ignoring the dirty political

hacks that live to manipulate.

[randome]

13. My God, that's what campaign workers are SUPPOSED TO DO!

Try to shape public opinion! If you can't ignore the bullshit and see the issues, or if you think the electorate in general can't do that, then I don't know what to say.
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[Armstead]

19. Then why do do they go to so much trouble?

[randome]

22. Because both sides want to win. And their supporters want their candidate to win, too.

It takes a certain amount of ego to run for President. No one wants to take a laid-back approach and think they can be successful. It's too important a job.
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[Armstead]

24. I don't have any problem with actual fighting over issues

But dominating this board with the misplaced use of a word by someone who spoke for about a minute at a campaign rally....And before that all of the Vatican obsession.

Hell, call Sanders a dirty socialist commie, defend out shitty healthcare system, argue about whether banks are too big or not....That's legitimate fodder.

But this fainting couch delicacy, "concern" for the logistics of Bernie's trip to Italy, his stuttering in an interview.....

It's crap. It;s stupid. We should't condone this kind of Real Housewives politics. .

[randome]

25. I agree the outrage level on 'whore' was off the scale.

A sensible thing to say on the topic is that the word should not be used and that should have been the end of it. It's not reflective of the Sanders campaign itself and we should be big enough to see that.
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[Dem2]

14. Well said

[2pooped2pop]

26. Its like you weren't around when Bush was stealing elections.

Its like you have never bothered to find out just how easy it is to change those numbers. The fantasy is that you live is a democracy. You do not.

[randome]

32. Dirty tricks on that scale are something else, I think.

I don't see that the Clinton campaign has done anything other than be conversant with the rules and using those rules to their fullest advantage while at the same time trying to portray her opponent as less qualified to be President -in other words, the same things every campaign does during a primary.
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[2pooped2pop]

33. I think she has gone futher than that.

and the DNC and her friend Debbie has assisted her. All of the "shenanigans" have helped her. That is no coincidence.

[think]

27. Bullhorn Bill was a dirty trick. Borderline illegal.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

[randome]

31. That was definitely stupid and, yes, borderline illegal.

There was nothing to be gained by it and he should have gone out of his way to avoid any appearances of illegality.
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[VulgarPoet]

6. Does a bear...

yeah.

[SheenaR]

7. Ummm

When a campaign enlists Lee Atwater-Lite (David Brock) to do the dirty work and pays hundreds of people to spread falsehoods on the internet, I would say there is a fairly good chance of dirty tricks

[Dragonfli]

18. "pays hundreds of people to spread falsehoods on the internet," Indeed, the brock puppet army of

“digital media specialists”

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. It's rather hard to miss unless in a coma or heavily sedated.

[reddread]

11. this will be their biggest fireworks display

Hard to know what to expect, besides failure.
It appears to be inevitable.

[Armstead]

17. Not a feeling....It's as plain as the nose on Jimmy Durante's face

[bkkyosemite]

29. It is absolutely

[jeepers]

30. As president

Bernie could introduce legislation to correct election abuses but congress will never go for it. As citizens we have the ability to introduce legislation to correct election abuses in our separate states and to bring it to a popular vote in 23 states. We lack direction and when We The People are not organized the Oligarchy rules.

[TM99]

34. If a Clinton is involved in an election

that you can rest assured that yes, a lot of dirty political tricks are taking place.

Claire and Francis have nothing over Bill and Hillary!