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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:37 PM Apr 2016

Democratic Wave Building As 13 More House Seats Move Toward The Democratic Party

The Republican House majority could be washed out to sea as 13 more House are shifting towards the Democratic Party.

Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball has changed the ranking on 14 House seats, and 13 of the changes are bad for the Republican Party.

According to Sabato’s Crystal Ball:

In many states, Republican-controlled legislatures drew a large number of marginally Republican seats in order to maximize the number of seats the party could control. But a relatively large Democratic wave could inundate even some supposedly safe GOP seats, overcoming a seemingly high floodwall. Whereas a one-point increase over 2012 would result in nine net seats being won by the Democratic presidential nominee, a two-point increase (54% nationally) quickly raises that net advantage to 35 seats. Suddenly Republicans would be defending 50 seats in districts won by the Democratic presidential nominee, and two Democratic-held Romney seats would become slightly more blue than not. This would give Democrats a substantial target list to get to the necessary 30-seat gain they need to take back the lower chamber. And a three-point Democratic increase to 55%, a reasonable upper limit in our eyes, would leave 56 GOP-held seats in blue territory. Overall, Democrats would hold a presidential vote edge in 241 seats. This would be similar to the 2008 presidential vote: That year, Obama won the two-party vote in 242 congressional districts as currently drawn.

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That is roughly what our outlook is right now — a small Democratic gain of about 5-10 seats — but as we showed earlier, the presidential math could change that calculation, swelling Democratic gains. On the flip side, Republicans still have a chance to hold Democrats to single-digits gains. A Republican net gain seems exceedingly unlikely at this point, but in this crazy cycle one cannot completely rule it out with seven months to go.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/14/democratic-wave-building-13-house-seats-move-democratic-party.html

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Democratic Wave Building As 13 More House Seats Move Toward The Democratic Party (Original Post) silvershadow Apr 2016 OP
Millions more vote for Democrats and yet the right wing controls the House. It is Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1
Because Democrats apparently have more important things to do elljay Apr 2016 #5
In 2010 and 2014, the national party itself didn't really try to win those midterms. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #11
True that elljay Apr 2016 #12
They haven't fielded a Democratic candidate for Arkansas's 3rd district since 2010 Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #14
That is appalling! elljay Apr 2016 #15
The only candidates in this year's 3rd district election Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #18
Looks like if you want a candidate elljay Apr 2016 #19
My FL red district hasn't had a Democratic candidate for several cycles mcar Apr 2016 #22
Do millions of Democrats vote? IronLionZion Apr 2016 #10
Dems need to understand this! cynzke Apr 2016 #13
Hey! You two are on to something! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #16
I've noted in the past that they've (Republicans) spread themselves thin Dem2 Apr 2016 #2
all ya gotta do.... getagrip_already Apr 2016 #3
You have the flipside too, in that every Dem running will tie his/her opponent to the GOP nominee Tarc Apr 2016 #4
Except you are assuming elljay Apr 2016 #6
WHOOSH Tarc Apr 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #8
Another firewall the GOP has is voter suppression laws Gman Apr 2016 #9
There is not going to be any Democratic wave if Hillary is the nominee BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #17
Gerrymandering spread the GOP too thin? houston16revival Apr 2016 #20
Three words as to why Dems kept losing seats starting in 2010 rateyes Apr 2016 #21
Isn't that the truth? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #23
DWS Chrisdutch Apr 2016 #24

elljay

(1,178 posts)
5. Because Democrats apparently have more important things to do
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

than vote in mid-term elections. We've let the Republicans take control of most of our state governments. Our fault entirely - we knew exactly what the Republicans would do and we didn't care enough to cast the ballots to prevent it.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. In 2010 and 2014, the national party itself didn't really try to win those midterms.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:23 PM
Apr 2016

In fact, in both years, the DCCC and the DSCC basically publicly gave up in about August. It's not just on the voters-it's on the party to work to get the voters out and to keep up a sense of hope that it's WORTH going out to vote.


Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
14. They haven't fielded a Democratic candidate for Arkansas's 3rd district since 2010
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:20 AM
Apr 2016

And even then, that candidate was forced to bow out before the election because the state's right-wing newspaper claimed he had not been 100% truthful about his military record.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
18. The only candidates in this year's 3rd district election
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016

are the incumbent Republican, and his Libertarian challenger, same as last time. Last time, I left that race blank on my ballot, as I saw no difference between the two. I'll likely do the same this year.

The election before that (2012), there was a Libertarian, a Green, and the Republican incumbent. I voted for the Green (Rebekah Kennedy), who holds the distinction of being the Green candidate who has won the highest percentage of votes (16%) for a Federal-level election in the US.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
19. Looks like if you want a candidate
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

your district Dems/Greens will have to do it by yourselves. We need to not only have a 50 state plan, we must challenge each and every election. We're not gonna win all of them but we will force the Republicans to spend money and attention on races they usually ignore.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
22. My FL red district hasn't had a Democratic candidate for several cycles
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:08 PM
Apr 2016

Once our Blue Dog (but reliable D vote) rep got gerrymandered out. I want to go to local Democratic party meetings, I really do, but if they don't even try, why should I?

It should be noted that SO and I fear even putting a bumper sticker on our car and I talk politics with only one person in town - a Republican dude in my gym who voted Obama twice and plans to vote for the Dem nominee. Because he isn't crazy.

IronLionZion

(45,458 posts)
10. Do millions of Democrats vote?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

It all comes down to turnout. And Dems are often hard working busy people with low paying jobs. Dems need to be inspired to turn out. And Repubs would love for Dems to feel discouraged about "the election is rigged" "your vote doesn't matter" amongst more serious nonsense like reducing polling places in urban areas and challenging IDs and flagrantly striking large swaths of minorities from the voter rolls. They don't want us to vote.

Yes there's more of us, but it's an uphill battle for many.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
2. I've noted in the past that they've (Republicans) spread themselves thin
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

Once Democrats break through their meagerly built firewalls, it could be a major upheaval for Republicans as they have little more gerrymandering power left in their holster.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
3. all ya gotta do....
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

is get disgruntled trump and/or cruz supporters to punish the party by not voting down ticket. Whoever doesn't get the nom will have a LOT of supporters feeling bitter and cheated.

Shouldn't be too hard. That is the gift of a contested convention.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
4. You have the flipside too, in that every Dem running will tie his/her opponent to the GOP nominee
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

I mean, look what Trumpy did today, he compared Romney's losing the '12 election to Eric Garner's "I can't breathe!", i.e. a choking analogy.

Every D running this year needs to hang that on their opponent's head. The savagery of someone who would cheer that is baffling.

Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Gman

(24,780 posts)
9. Another firewall the GOP has is voter suppression laws
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

and a SCOTUS that supported the laws. And there's no chance to change it before November.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
17. There is not going to be any Democratic wave if Hillary is the nominee
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:39 AM
Apr 2016

She could win the Presidency if the Republican nominee is Trump or Cruz, but it will be a brutally negative general election campaign that alienates voters on both sides and causes many to stay home. Hillary and Bill Clinton have been doing everything they can to disparage the young voters that are needed to create a large turnout and a big swing toward Democrats in Congress.

I don't know how Sabato can predict anything about the House or Senate at this point without knowing who the nominee for either party is going to be or with what happens to the Sanders and Trump movements if they aren't the nominees. But predictors gotta predict, that's how they make a living. If I remember correctly, at one point in 1988 Dukakis had a 17 point lead in the national polls over Bush and his election was seen as a foregone conclusion. And Dukakis ended up getting trounced, winning only 10 states plus DC.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
20. Gerrymandering spread the GOP too thin?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

Not thin enough for me.

I think that's what he's saying. To gain seats they took some from strong GOP
districts and shifted them to Democratic districts. So the former Democratic
districts are not safe seats, and the former GOP strongholds are not as safe.

You know ... correct me if I'm misinterpreting that.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
21. Three words as to why Dems kept losing seats starting in 2010
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:04 PM
Apr 2016

Debbie Wasserman-Schulz.

She could fuck up an anvil. Why in the hell we ever put her in charge of the DNC is beyond me. Goodbye 50-state strategy...hello Republican majorities.

Chrisdutch

(70 posts)
24. DWS
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:27 PM
Apr 2016

the Democrats could sweep this group of Republican turds out of office if that idiot Debbie Wasserman Schultz were not the chairperson of this party. One sixth of the house seats are not being challenged, ONE SIXTH! The Dems need to start party building,NOW, or they will fade into being yes men for their corporate sponsors. Hillary is no help either, she and her husband are about the Clintons.

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