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GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:07 PM Apr 2016

CNN just reported Clinton internal polling shows tighter race...

According to CNN the Clinton campaign their internal polling shows a much tighter race, and in response they are going to come out with negative ads on Bernie centered on the NYDN interview. It's odd that national polling and internal polling shows Bernie surging, yet NY polls show a different story

GO BERNIE GO GO GO!

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CNN just reported Clinton internal polling shows tighter race... (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
??? mattocaster6 Apr 2016 #1
I'd guess TV or Radio... nt GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #2
they probably poll nightly.... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #3
I wish I could see all of the polls. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #4
This is campaign internal polling... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #5
It has been somewhat telling. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #16
Is it Bait again? noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #6
I don't buy it... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #7
I agree noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #13
My guess is Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #9
Hillary will tell us how close the race is by her actions tonight kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #8
Agreed GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #10
Well the way surrogates have been acting is nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #11
Against TRUMP apcalc Apr 2016 #12
She is going to run ads this weekend against Trump? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #14
I believe it BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #15
Yup. And I could see her surrogates spreading it here on DU. senz Apr 2016 #37
Put out a poll and hope some voters are swayed by it. That's how it works. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #17
I think it is interesting the juxtaposition of the two campaign's strategies for tighter race... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #18
Someone from DU apcalc Apr 2016 #19
It was on their TV broadcast... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #20
CNN has just discussed this again unc70 Apr 2016 #27
Clinton campaign already did at least one ad on NYDN interview. pat_k Apr 2016 #21
First it was the "kitchen sink", then "disqualify and divide". pa28 Apr 2016 #22
Link? MineralMan Apr 2016 #23
It was on their live broadcast... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #24
So who said that? If you were watching MineralMan Apr 2016 #25
I dunno it was a large panel.... Beneson (sp) was on the panel. I was in the gym, I don't have cable GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #28
So, you didn't see it? You don't know who said it. MineralMan Apr 2016 #31
I saw it at the gym... it was the guy who is part of Clinton campaign Tone guy. I think Beneson... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #33
Again, I'll wait for a real report, with names MineralMan Apr 2016 #34
They always say that. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #26
Except for the part where they run attacks ads... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #30
Mo and Il were close like MI. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #32
Yup, here is a 538 response to the report via Twitter Godhumor Apr 2016 #35
Good catch! hrmjustin Apr 2016 #36
Sounds like a message to make sure everyone votes. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #29
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
4. I wish I could see all of the polls.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

Do you have a link for this one? The other is behind a pay wall so I can look at the demographs to see the way they are reading their data. I do think the surge of constant negatives are tell.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
5. This is campaign internal polling...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

It was just on CNN recently, I'll have to wait to see if someone recorded it and puts it on youtube. Obviously they don't share the exact numbers though. But this reminds me of Michigan all over again.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
16. It has been somewhat telling.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:20 PM
Apr 2016

It has seemed to show a good trend for Bernie most of the times they said that. But I could also see them trying this to try and lure us in, and boom Admiral Akbared!

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
6. Is it Bait again?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

Are they trying to bait Bernie into going negative at the debate? I wouldn't believe anything CNN says right before the NY Primary even if they lace it with something positive about Bernie.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
7. I don't buy it...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

Many here have speculated internal polling was showing a tighter race since she ran off to New York before Wisconsin even voted. I think her actions since Wisconsin have been consistent with a tight race.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
13. I agree
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:17 PM
Apr 2016

the race is tightening but I question the timing of this information and the report that she's going to release negative ads because of it. Don't get me wrong I think she will release negative ads but I think this was bait because of the timing.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
9. My guess is
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:14 PM
Apr 2016

The format of the questions will be like this:

Sanders will only be asked questions that: 1) imply that his polices are wrong and he needs to explain why they aren't. 2) ask him to apologize for being rude, mean and sexist towards Hillary & 3) That he is a communist

Hillary's questions will be framed in a way to imply her policies are amazing and will be asked to explain why her policies are so great.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
8. Hillary will tell us how close the race is by her actions tonight
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

Someone who is up 15-20 points will not go negative and aggressive, and they try to play out the clock. Think of the first couple of debates where she was pretending Sanders wasn't even on the stage, and focusing on GOP & Trump.

If she is throwing hay-makers, attacking Bernie then they fear losing.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
10. Agreed
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:14 PM
Apr 2016

I hope we get Miami debate Bernie in this debate. I love Miami debate Bernie. He was feisty!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. Well the way surrogates have been acting is
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

highly suggestive

In fact, it is probably tighter than they are admitting.

Here is a piece of info. I have now covered major presidential rallies. See the ones for Clinton are not generating excitement. The cameras should not be able to show the floor.

Her events we are seeing the floor

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
15. I believe it
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:19 PM
Apr 2016

A recent NY poll somebody posted at DU a couple of days ago only had Bernie ahead 56-40 among voters 45 and under. He has been winning that age bracket by a much wider margin in recent states and New York has had Occupy Wall Street, the anti-fracking movement and Zephyr Teachout's primary run against Cuomo in 2014 to organize people who are naturals for Bernie's movement. And we have seen the enthusiasm among young people in the huge rallies Bernie is having in NY, while Bill Clinton is working retirement homes.

Hillary's campaign told us how worried they are about this primary when they announced they were going negative in NY on the night of the Wisconsin primary defeat to "disqualify" Bernie.

I could see them dropping something really offensive tomorrow to try to steal the news cycle from Bernie while he's at the Vatican. I'm sure Hillary's campaign and her media allies are already working on counter coverage.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
17. Put out a poll and hope some voters are swayed by it. That's how it works.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

Polls are meaningless really. Wisconsin is a prime example. Polls showing Hillary ahead by double digits just before the primary, then she loses handily. Was polling just THAT wrong? Or, was the poll really designed to instill a sense of "Clinton inevitability" in voters minds as they headed to the polls?

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
18. I think it is interesting the juxtaposition of the two campaign's strategies for tighter race...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:23 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie's strategy was to mobilize a massive GOTV effort with 2 million phonebanking calls to be made over the weekend (plus canvassers in New York). No mention of running negative ads.

Clinton's strategy is to run a bunch of attacks ads over a NYDN interview which the New York Times debunked.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
21. Clinton campaign already did at least one ad on NYDN interview.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016

Can't find a link, but it was out about two days after the interview. Had quotes from headlines about Bernie's so-called "ignorance" (and if you have any doubts that the quotes are crap, see citations in http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1412679)

I don't imagine they can make a new ad that's more "negative" than the one already out. And I don't imagine it would have much more effect than the first one. Old news and all.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
22. First it was the "kitchen sink", then "disqualify and divide".
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know what they're going to call it this time around but the continuing waves of negative attacks against Bernie do not suggest the assurance of a guaranteed winner. It suggests a very deep sense of insecurity.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
24. It was on their live broadcast...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

When there is something to link to I will... Surely somebody else was watching CNN during the revelation and can corroborate with me..

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. So who said that? If you were watching
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

You must know. See, your account leaves out all of the details. Was it a CNN reporter or a guest? I can't make much from your sketchy post. You did see this yourself, right?

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
28. I dunno it was a large panel.... Beneson (sp) was on the panel. I was in the gym, I don't have cable
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:42 PM
Apr 2016

But people in the Sanders group said they were discussing it again now, and that the plan is that attack ads will start from after the debate and run through the weekend.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
31. So, you didn't see it? You don't know who said it.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

OK, then. I guess I'll wait for a real report with names and stuff. Thanks for trying.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
33. I saw it at the gym... it was the guy who is part of Clinton campaign Tone guy. I think Beneson...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:46 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know who the rest of the panel were. One looked like he might be the guy who reported first on the "disqualify, defeat, and worry about unity later".

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
34. Again, I'll wait for a real report, with names
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

and quotes. I never listen to second hand accounts or vague information.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
30. Except for the part where they run attacks ads...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

I don't remember that in other state except Michigan where it was actually close.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
35. Yup, here is a 538 response to the report via Twitter
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:53 PM
Apr 2016

From Harry Enten of 538:

My understanding is that Clinton is leading by plenty in the "internal" polls.

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/720756335999062016

A very obvious GOTV effort.

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