Hillary - Marriage Between a Man & Woman is a Bedrock Principle.. I see your true colors shining

[berniepdx420]

through...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. All politicians including Bernie took this position at one time or another, or at least all

the ones we are talking about.

[zappaman]

2. Shhh...You're interfering with the posters daily 1378 anti-Hillary OPs.

[berniepdx420]

6. Thanks.. for your consideration.. bit of an exaggeration.. but that's par for the course in camp

weathervane

[brush]

185. How old is that clip of Clinton?

[blm]

197. yep...and achieved his desired effect…fvcking with Democrats at DemocraticUnderground

and he surrounded himself with friends.

[berniepdx420]

9. here.. you tell me the difference between the two.. 1 is a Progressive 1 is a neocon

[beam me up scottie]

16. No he didn't, please stop repeating that talking point - it's a lie, he never opposed ssm.

He never once said lgbt people shouldn't be allowed to marry.

[dbackjon]

139. Yes he did. To claim otherwise is a fucking lie

He did not support Gay Marriage until he evolved.

[beam me up scottie]

146. He never opposed it, you've tried to claim this repeatedly but always fail.

He once said it was too soon to try to pass ssm legislation in Vermont because it was too soon and he was right. But he never opposed marriage equality.

I get it, you can't defend Hillary's words so you want to pretend Bernie opposed it too, it's perfectly understandable.

If my candidate has said what she did about marriage equality I might be desperate enough to make things up too.

[dbackjon]

148. Yes, he did. To claim otherwise is a lie.

[beam me up scottie]

151. Your repeating it over and over again isn't going to make it any less of a fabrication.

Look we've been over this repeatedly, face it - if you had proof you would have provided it by now.

[dbackjon]

157. LOL - it has been shown many times. But you are too stubborn to accept your hero

Isn't the superman you are trying to portray him to be.

[beam me up scottie]

160. If by many times you mean never I agree. And lay off the strawmen, they're flammable.

[northernsouthern]

258. Hey your song is playing...

Yes it is the official HRC board theme song.

Disclaimer: There are some good Hillary people on here, this is just directed to the ones that wear foil.

[revbones]

205. Prove it. I say you can't.

[revbones]

45. You might want to look into Bernie's history a little more before you double down on that... lol

that "one time or another" is waaaaay earlier than it was popular and incredibly earlier than Hillary.

[beam me up scottie]

154. Except he never said lgbt people shouldn't be allowed to marry, not once.

[Sheepshank]

3. and I raise you a Bernie essay stating women's rape fantasy n/t

[berniepdx420]

5. It was a fictional novel.. but nice try

[Sheepshank]

21. it was not a fictional novel...fail

[berniepdx420]

24. /

National Review writer Charles C.W. Cooke, though, dismissed the essay as insignificant:

"Nobody honestly believes that Bernie Sanders is a sexual pervert or that he is a misogynist or that he intends to do women any harm. Nobody suspects that he harbors a secret desire to pass intrusive legislation or to cut gang rapists a break. Really, there is only one reason that anyone would make hay of this story, and that is to damage the man politically."




Your allegiance blinds you from the truth....

[beam me up scottie]

25. He posts about that essay constantly, his obsession with it is disturbing.

[berniepdx420]

28. When your candidate is a political weathervane and her record is not Progressive than you

grasp at all kinds of straws to distract and obfuscate..

[beam me up scottie]

29. Well the continued focus on women's fantasies is a little odd.

It's very judgemental to look down your nose on women who fantasize.

[Sheepshank]

64. effing hilarious that you have no idea my gender, no idea what I think

and yet post copiously about both.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned how very very bad you are at mind reading?

[beam me up scottie]

68. Oh dear, still at it? It's getting even creepier.

This obsessing over an old essay is very enlightening, how people interpret it speaks volumes about their mindset.

[Sheepshank]

73. and there you go again, trying psych..poor BMUS, trying so hard to make relevant conversation.

[beam me up scottie]

75. I'm quite fine since I'm not the one who keeps obsessing about rape fantasies and orgasms in GDP.

You really should think about why that bothers you so much.

[Sheepshank]

77. aww sweetie, the attempts at justification are endearing to some...not me.

[beam me up scottie]

78. Yes, we are well aware of your disturbing focus. And calling me sweetie is extremly creepy.

Please don't use sexist terms of endearment to diminish me, especially when you keep talking about rape.

[Sheepshank]

81. i call all genders sweetie. your paradigm is pretty narrow

[beam me up scottie]

83. Please don't use sexist terms of endearment to address me, it's creepy.

[Sheepshank]

87. It gender neutral. Oh you've never done the same? Oh sure you have. Was that creepy too?

[beam me up scottie]

88. Please stop. I asked you once, that should be enough.

[Sheepshank]

91. I will stop when you stop.

[beam me up scottie]

94. I feel like I need a shower after reading your posts about rape and orgasms.

Who thinks like that and then calls a woman "sweetie"?

I need to leave this thread, your obsession with me and this essay is disturbing me too much.

[Sheepshank]

96. So I'm disturbed, creepy, obsessed, disgusting, and now dirty..any more insults you care to hurl? nt

[beam me up scottie]

99. I never called you those things, why do you keep obsessing about this?

[Sheepshank]

103. you sure did, and I forgot you also said sexist, all on thread.

[beam me up scottie]

106. I described your behaviour, nice try. And it does speak for itself. Just ew.

[Sheepshank]

108. don't care how you try and couch it....your bullying methods are apparent

[beam me up scottie]

112. Except you're the one using sexist terms of endearment to dismiss my opinions. Okay, I forgive you.

[Sheepshank]

114. Sweetie is gender neutral...apparently clarifying for the 5th time may finally sink in

and not only is it gender neutral, it doesn't smack of ageism either.

[beam me up scottie]

116. It's okay, you can stop making excuses, I said I forgive you.

[Sheepshank]

118. I don't care if you forgive me or not...the term is not sexist, as you keep asserting.

[beam me up scottie]

121. I've heard the same thing from men for years, you're still forgiven.

[Sheepshank]

123. and I've used it toward both genders...so your limited view of the world just got expanded

[beam me up scottie]

126. I've been dismissed by sexist women before as well, you're still forgiven.

[Sheepshank]

133. forgive all you want.....this is no better than being pissy at me because I used the word sweetie

you are using for the very same demeaning reasons to attributed to my use of sweetie. You are a hypocrit

[beam me up scottie]

136. Now I'm "pissy" for calling out a sexist term? What's next, calling me bitchy and hysterical?

You're going to need an industrial sized tool to dig your way out of that one:



It's okay, I still forgive you.

[Sheepshank]

140. for the 6th time, sweetie is not sexist, it's gender neutral

do you have a reading comprehension disability?

[beam me up scottie]

142. That's what the guys always say too, it's okay, you're all forgiven.

Some people just don't know any better, I try to give.them the benefit of the doubt.

[Sheepshank]

156. I'm just like a guy? are you sure about that?

[beam me up scottie]

158. Who said that? Sounds like something a person who would call a woman 'sweetie' would say.

[Sheepshank]

170. I already told you to stop mind reading. You're terrible at it.

[beam me up scottie]

171. So no one said that? Good! I was going to lecture that person on the use of demeaning sexist terms.

[Sheepshank]

236. But here is Bernie's creepy essay

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[beam me up scottie]

240. Yikes that obsession of yours is worse than I thought, you don't even understand it was about gender

Feel better, okay? Maybe in time you will understand it was about gender stereotypes and be able to move on.

[Sheepshank]

246. What is a "yik"?

[beam me up scottie]

247. Feel better, really. I wish you the best. And when a woman says stop it means stop.

[Sheepshank]

250. What is a "yik"? Don't tell me you screwed up an did a typo

within minutes of trying to play spelling nazi with one of my posts?

Remember the word Yik....I will

[beam me up scottie]

252. OH MY, AUTO CORRECT SHORTENED MY POST, I'M A SPELLING NAZI NOW!!!

[Sheepshank]

255. Calm down, it's really not that big of a deal...you should really not use that tactic

It opens you up to ridicule

[beam me up scottie]

257. What's that? I can't hear you - my hormonz is all out of whack since you called me sweetie!

We wimmenz is like that, you know!

[Sheepshank]

259. Lol.you tried that tactic on me before. So what word did you try to use that auto corrected to yik?

I don't think it's a real word

[beam me up scottie]

263. Still can't hear you, I'm busy fainting! Someone catch me!

[Sheepshank]

265. So the bottom line is typo nazi makes a typo and looks extremely foolish

[beam me up scottie]

268. Derp! Auto correct shortens subject lines that exceed 100 characters, keep up. What's a 'you phone'?

[Sheepshank]

269. Shortens the first word? Yah, sure. See if your phone works on this link

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[beam me up scottie]

271. Yep, what kind of person who is shocked by misogyny spells misogynistic? Oh noes I'm fainting again!

[Sheepshank]

35. stupid statement to think that "nobody believes that Bernie..."

this insane essay that was NOT a novel, and couple that with his promotion of multiple orgasms that cures cancer, leaves a lot of question in my mind.

[berniepdx420]

37. I think I would like to disengage from this conversation with you... it's creeping me out a bit...

the facts are there.. spin them how you wish...

[Sheepshank]

76. yes, its hard to face the actual facts...

did you follow the link to his essay...it's totally creepy

[beam me up scottie]

44. You keep obsessing about something he quoted about orgasms from a medical journal.

Your interpretation of what was actually written and focus on women's sexual lives is really creepy.

[Sheepshank]

235. Bernie's creepy essay..link

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[beam me up scottie]

248. BLANCHE FETCH MAH SMELLING SALTS, I DO BELIEVE I'M GETTING THE VAPOURS!

[Sheepshank]

251. Please yell louder, you must think it makes you more relevant. But will no longer distract me.

[beam me up scottie]

253. I'M TOTES SERIOSE, I READ IT AGAIN AND PEARLS ARE BEING CLUTCHED AS I TYPE!

[Sheepshank]

256. Ahhh, yelling, picture stories and panic. You are devolving fast.

[beam me up scottie]

261. I'M SERIOUS!! YOU CONVINCED ME, POSTING THAT LINK FOR THE GAZILLIONTH TIME WORKED!

You should be celebrating, look at us silly wimmenz, we're leaving Bernie in droves!

[Sheepshank]

262. Why would your phone auto correct to a non existent word, "yik"

I think it was really a typo and you are pretending otherwise.

[beam me up scottie]

264. What's a 'you phone'? Is that anything like an iPhone?

[Sheepshank]

267. Typo nazi types "yik" and can't admit a mistake...cover up fail. But here is a link to the essay

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[beam me up scottie]

270. OH NOES, NOT THE ESSAY AGAIN!!! This is how shocked I am:

[Sheepshank]

273. Love the picture...here is a link for you

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[beam me up scottie]

276. STAHP!! Every time you post that I faint! And think of the kittens!

[SoLeftIAmRight]

172. what is a sheep shank?

...

[Sheepshank]

175. sailors knot...and the name hit my funny bone for some reason

I hear it could also be a sheep's shank bone..perhaps a thigh bone?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

176. many thanks

i knew that one - lost in old age

[840high]

233. Speaks volumes about you if

you don't think it was fiction.

[Sheepshank]

243. I'm sure the was a level of metaphors about it.. Have you read it..link supplied

There is something terribly mysoginistic about it.

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

Couple that with his assertion and medical advice that multiple orgasms cures cancers...and one can see a very creepy pattern emerge.

[beam me up scottie]

245. They also think that women who fantasize about rape actually want to be raped.

Very creepy indeed.

[beam me up scottie]

17. It was an essay about gender stereotypes and shocker: women do fantasize about it.

[Sheepshank]

22. I don't know of a woman that fantasizes about being gang raped simultaneously by 3 men

consensual sex, group pr otherwise, is very different than rape.

[beam me up scottie]

23. I must have missed the part about being "gang" raped, and tell me more about women's fantasies

You sound like an expert, how many women have discussed their sexual fantasies with you?

Is there something wrong with women who have rape fantasies?

[Sheepshank]

39. of course you missed it, or you have reinterpreted what it means to be raped by 3 men simultaneously

...but you go ahead and marginalize those who have experienced what they consider horrendous gang rapes. i know you have your reasons. Frankly I don't want to hear about it.

bye.

[beam me up scottie]

42. Or you made it up which might have caused you to get another post hidden for using that word.

Now please explain why these fantasies bother you so much.

[Sheepshank]

46. I made it up?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bernie-sanders-1972-essay-rape-fantasy-surfaces-article-1.2240379
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-rape-essay-1972/
(look at paragraph 2)

Thin skinned Bernie Bros going to get me another hide for telling the truth...oh noes.


you are absolutely no one that I feel any obligation to explain anything personal to. Ask as much as you want.

[beam me up scottie]

54. Yes, you made it up, either you don't understand what was written or you're using it as a smear.

Your interpretation is more than a little disturbing, why would you keep trying to claim that it was about rape?

In my experience men who obsess over things like this know very little about women.

[Sheepshank]

57. redecorate it any way to you ...being raped by 3 men simultaneously = gang rape

the actual words are in the 2nd paragraph...need a magnifying glass...why not run passed your atheist friends on FB

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-rape-essay-1972/

[beam me up scottie]

59. Wow, that's a really creepy way to look at an essay on gender stereotypes.

Why do women's fantasies bother you so much?

[Sheepshank]

61. yes, the essay was creepy, and I'll make sure the women in my life see it and judge for themselves

[beam me up scottie]

63. As for me, I feel sorry for women who get slut shamed for their fantasies.

Most intelligent adult women realize the essay was about gender roles, they won't even bet an eyelash at that essay.

Many resent people who keep insisting it's about rape and want to pretend that women don't fantasize about it.

[Sheepshank]

70. Female family members changed their mind on Bernie after reading it.

..as will many others.

[pangaia]

79. hey.. beam.. if I've told you once, I've told you.... three times.

Don't waste your time...

Or mine, for that matter, because when you go one on one like that with... eh.. you know... I too often keep reading to get to the end.

And after a wonderful night listening to Yuja Wang play the Bartok 1st Piano Concerto... it can ruin my otherwise joyous day.



Thanks in advance..

[beam me up scottie]

84. Hey you!!! I do have to call out slut shaming when I see it, women who fantasize are healthier.

This hyperventilating about sexual fantasies is weird, isn't it? What century are we in again?

I would love to hear you play, send me something by pm if you have the time.

[pangaia]

86. Shhhh don't use the word slut.. shhh

Ok, I will PM you some music but not me.. retired.
I will send you the greatest violinist I have every heard. She is 28 and South Korean.

[beam me up scottie]

89. I wear that label proudly! Women who enjoy sex should embrace it.

It's time to take back the slur!

[pangaia]

105. BRAVA !!!!!!!!!!!

[beam me up scottie]

110. !

[Number23]

228. All of the open mouthed screaming in this thread over your post made me go and read the essay

I knew it had been discussed here before but I never paid it any attention. Didn't think it was important.

"A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A woman on her knees, a woman tied up, a woman abused."

Now I TOTALLY get all of the screaming your posts on this seem to provoke.

[Sheepshank]

231. Must try to minimize it and blow it off as something women would feel good about

It's troubling, and I thank you for reminding me...there has been the typical distraction .

[davidpdx]

238. And the results are in...........

On Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:26 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

All of the open mouthed screaming in this thread over your post made me go and read the essay
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1748835

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Taking a quote out of context to make it look like people are apologizing for rape is over the top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:33 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Your alert is a serious stretch and makes me think this is nothing more than alert stalking. Hope the admins look at it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is obvious who sent this (however I won't say the person's name) and it is a stupid alert. Discuss whatever it is, but alerting for the purpose of trying to shut someone up is wrong. STOP IT!
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not sure I entirely get it, but whatever.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

I was not #1, but I tend to agree.

[Number23]

242. Love Juror #3 and like #1, I hope the admins check too

Thanks, David.

If literally quoting the first line of that essay is "making it look like people are apologizing for rape," it most certainly does explain the panicked screaming and urge to deflect that happens whenever Sheepshank mentions it.

[passiveporcupine]

26. YEP

But people don't want to talk about that. Too scary.

[beam me up scottie]

27. People who are disgusted by women's fantasies are slut shaming.

An active fantasy life is healthy and this genre is very popular now.

I guess some people are just more uptight about it than others.

[Sheepshank]

52. you twist words and try and bully and shame

it get fucking old

[beam me up scottie]

56. You're the one who keeps bringing it up, why is that?

You obviously don't understand what the essay was about since you keep obsessing about the rape fantasy bit.

[Sheepshank]

80. Because many deny the essay exists. Repetition and linking...others can make up their own minds

you obviously have decided it's peachy keen. you are the only person on DU that repetitively attempts to justify it and tries to put me down and label me in all sorts of ways as a method to stop my posting. Sorry BMUS, it just makes me try all the harder.

[beam me up scottie]

82. The essay on gender stereotypes definitely exists, intelligent people realize it isn't about rape.

Frankly the ones who obsess about that last worry me.

[Sheepshank]

90. I offer links so people can read the words for themselves

you offer your own opinions, insults and bullying as if you had credibility.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-rape-essay-1972/
(look at paragraph 2)

[beam me up scottie]

101. Ew, this obsession of yours is just disgusting.

[nolawarlock]

48. Most people were against gay marriage at a time ...

It's just a fact most gay people have come to accept as we embrace the changes these politicians make.

Most of them have not, however, had such rape fantasies. If we're scraping the gristle off the bones of the skeletons in one candidate's closet, I guess all's fair.

I'll vote for him if he's the candidate in November, but I will have to hold my nose ... mostly cuz that gristle really stinks.

[beam me up scottie]

60. Speak for yourself, millions of women enjoy a healthy fantasy life.

[nolawarlock]

71. I have not read this book or seen the movie ...

... but am I to understand you think it's healthy to fantasize about rape? Wow. It just keeps sinking lower in here. I think you shall be my first ignore. You scare me.

[beam me up scottie]

74. Sure, an active fantasy life is very healthy. Oppressing it and slut shaming women not so much.

Fantasies don't scare me but authoritarians and thought police terrify me.

[Sheepshank]

85. Shaming the man who presumes to describe/define gang rape fantasy to sell papers is fine

you twisting this into slut shaming women who have fantasies is not fine. But you do this. You bully, and shame and twist words that were never said...and then claim to be the victim. The MO is so well documented.

[beam me up scottie]

92. Ew, your interpretation is really disgusting, who thinks that essay was about rape?

[Sheepshank]

93. oh so you've moved on from insulting, me to calling creepy and now disgusting

poor poor lost BMUS....if you would only stop with the insults.

[beam me up scottie]

95. Who thinks like that and then calls a woman sweetie?

[Sheepshank]

97. I call men sweetie too...you are little full of yourself on this one

[beam me up scottie]

98. Just don't ever do that to me again, it's demeaning and creepy considering the subject matter.

[Sheepshank]

100. words words words...you sure are suddenly sensitive...I think it's bullshit drama

[beam me up scottie]

102. I'm asking nicely, stop.

[Sheepshank]

104. And I'm telling you to stop too...there is another subthread you are not letting go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1745935

[beam me up scottie]

107. As long as you don't call me a term of endearment while dicussing rape then you're forgiven.

[Sheepshank]

109. so rape is a bad thing....right?

and the qualifier is that terms of endearment can only be used when you decide it's ok?

[beam me up scottie]

111. Wow, that you would even wonder about that says it all. Ick.

[Sheepshank]

113. that you say all women do fantasize about gang rape...ick

[beam me up scottie]

115. Women do, stop trying to shame us for having fantasies you disapprove of.

It's authoritarian and reminds me of sexually repressed religious zealouts who despise women who are open and honest about their sexuality.

[Sheepshank]

117. if you would just clarify that many do not or that only some do

but your insistence that you speak for all women is narcissistic and egomaniacle

[beam me up scottie]

119. When did I claim to speak for all women? Please stop trying to shame us.

Your posts remind of the hyperventilating over the 50 Shades book and movie.

[Sheepshank]

122. you have made great pains to qualify every other statement...except this one. You say Women

and incorporation all women.

as for the "shame us" baloney.....it's baloney

[beam me up scottie]

124. Women = plural of woman, do you really believe that they don't have these fantasies?

No wonder you're so distressed about this.

[Sheepshank]

132. see...you were fine asking the first sentence. and I imagine there are a few that do

your mind reading obsession in the second sentence is not only off base, but incorrect.

[beam me up scottie]

134. Well as long as you stop trying to shame us for having a healthy fantasy life you're forgiven.

[Sheepshank]

138. I never tried in the first place...that was your bullying interpretations making that assumption

[beam me up scottie]

165. Sure you did, post #22:

Sheepshank

22. I don't know of a woman that fantasizes about being gang raped simultaneously by 3 men
consensual sex, group pr otherwise, is very different than rape.

[Sheepshank]

169. I don't know of any woman that wants to be gang raped. It's a fact.

you interpreting it into slut shaming is so very typical of the twisting and lies you employ.

[beam me up scottie]

174. Who said women want to be gang raped? That you would think like that is disgusting.

Jesus Christ, do you really not know the difference between fantasy and reality? You really believe women who fantasize want to be raped?

And if you do know that's not true, why are you conflating the two?

Either way that is sick.

[Sheepshank]

177. Bernie said that women fantasize about being gang raped. Shall I attach the article again?

or would would you just like to go to the beginning of this thread and begin this conversation all over again?

It's so much fun to have you label me as sexist, slut shaming, disgusting creepy etc etc.

[beam me up scottie]

178. Bernie didn't say that you did. That is sick, you think that women who fantasize want to be raped?

Who can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality?

Ugh.

Please stop posting about this, that is truly disturbing.

[Sheepshank]

179. some people cannot tell the difference...are you shaming those with mental disabilities?

how very Democratic of you.

Oh wait....are you Democratic?

[beam me up scottie]

180. Apparently you can't since you keep conflating the two. That is sick.

Just so you know women who fantasize about rape don't actually want to be raped.

It's shocking that I even have to explain that to someone on a liberal board.

[Sheepshank]

181. you are mental health shaming. you should be ashamed

It's utterly disgusting.

I shouldn't have to explain myself on a liberal board, but you keep pressing as if this were Freeperville.

[beam me up scottie]

182. There's no shame, anyone who conflates fantasies with reality should get help. Hopefully they are.

Especially if they continually obsess and can't stop posting about rape and orgasms.

I worry about people like that, there's defintely something wrong with them.

[Sheepshank]

183. and all those weirdos that can't stop themselves from responding...right?

[beam me up scottie]

184. Well at least you recognize that the former has a problem and needs help. That's progress!

And with that breakthrough we're done here!

[Sheepshank]

200. Yeah, sure...sweetie

[beam me up scottie]

201. Ewww... Creepy and sleazy. Ick. Reminds me of this kind of guy:

[Sheepshank]

202. Unable to find words...reverts back to picture stories

How smart.

[beam me up scottie]

204. I can't help it if I'm reminded of creepy sexist guys when I see creepy sexist terms of endearment.

[Sheepshank]

209. You said it was creepy if tied to rape, otherwise it's simply gender neutral

I see you are flip flopping all over the place since you can remember your own made up shit.

[beam me up scottie]

212. It's creepy to keep using a sexist term of endearment after a woman asks you to stop.

I'm really glad I don't know you in real life, seriously. I feel like I need a shower after just reading your posts.

[Sheepshank]

213. For the 8th time it's gender neutral and your dramatic insults are pathetic.

Go have a shower and see if it helps you. I doubt it will work but you could always try

[beam me up scottie]

215. It's creepy and offensive to continue after a woman asks you to stop, but I still forgive you.

Perhaps you don't know any better.

In the future, calling woman 'sweetie' is sexist and demeaning, it's a way of dismissing us when you can't refute our argument.

And when a woman asks you to stop using offensive and demeaning behaviour you should probably just stop.

[Sheepshank]

218. Wow....I call kids, men and women sweetie all the time, you are the one being sexist

.....in implying I cannot use the word when speaking to a woman because it's sexist only when applied to a woman. And yet talk of Hillarys cackle etc is argued ad nauseum by you that's not sexist. You are the biggest hypocrit. And how do I even know you are a woman? You keep implying I'm a dude...are you sure? Your whole line of argument is stupid and nothing but drama filled poppycock.

[beam me up scottie]

220. When a woman asks you to stop you should stop, I can't make it any clearer than that.

And yet talk of Hillarys cackle etc is argued ad nauseum by you that's not sexist

Proof of that? You don't want people to think you're making things up again, do you?

And how do I even know you are a woman?

Because I told you I was, are you really going to go there?

You keep implying I'm a dude...are you sure?

Judging by your posts here and your continued use of the sexist term 'sweetie', yes reasonably sure. Most women I know won't use sexist terms to demean other women. I could be wrong though.

Your whole line of argument is stupid and nothing but drama filled poppycock.

[Sheepshank]

221. You are so very wrong on so many levels...please tell me

this type of analysis of other human beings isn't your day job.

To be reasonably sure of anything, one would have to have some reasonable abilities..which is sorely lacking in all of you analyses right now.

[beam me up scottie]

222. So no proof of your claim, just more deflection and insults? How SHOCKING!

[Sheepshank]

223. What claim are you babbling on about?

[beam me up scottie]

225. Re-read my post - it's easy to understand but get back to me if you need assistance. I'll wait.

[Sheepshank]

227. I Correctly claimed you lack reason...nt

[beam me up scottie]

230. That's what I thought. Make an accusation then pretend you don't remember, here you go:

And yet talk of Hillarys cackle etc is argued ad nauseum by you that's not sexist

Should I type it slower or can you back it up?

[TM99]

203. As a clinical sexologist

I have actually met women who fantasize about such things. It does not mean they would want to do it. But fantasies are a normal part of human sexuality even extreme ones that none of us would ever actually want to do or have done in reality.

Your pathetic attempts in this thread to distort, lie, and rat fuck is appalling and yet so predictable.

[Sheepshank]

206. I can only speak for myself on this matter and what and who I know

I'm sure you see and hear much more that I could ever imagine.

[TM99]

214. Then speak only for yourself

and stop pretending that you speak for all.

This is your own little obsession, and apparently no matter the truth of the matter, you want to see it as something it was never.

I don't care what that is or even why you have it. But pushing it as a smear against a man who has never displayed any type of inappropriate sexual behavior is rat-fuckery.

Are you so ashamed of Bill's that you must lash out in hopes that if only Sanders was the same way, it would somehow make it better?

[Sheepshank]

216. I never implied I spoke for anyone but myself. Apparently reading comprehension is not your friend

[TM99]

217. Please quit while you are ahead.

I tolerate fools gladly.

[Sheepshank]

219. Look upthread I distinctly and clearly said "I" don't know of a woman what wants to be gang raped.

Did you find it yet.

I think you jumped the shark here.....and now have to dig in your heels to save face.

Great therapy strategy...right?

[beam me up scottie]

244. That person doesn't know the difference between fantasy and reality.

If you read his post upthread he thinks that women who fantasize about rape actually want to be raped.

Best to disengage, the alert stalkers are out.

[TM99]

260. I just put them on Ignore.

I should have done so awhile ago as they are definitely obsessive and quite strange.

[beam me up scottie]

272. Yeah, when someone obsesses like that it's best to keep your distance, I'll follow your lead.

[beam me up scottie]

207. I wonder what makes people obsess like that? I probably don't want to know.

[Sheepshank]

226. Obsession...

You are one to talk....your continued bullying, name calling, and put downs and then making up shit and then forgetting the shit you just made up, and then going in another direction. Seriously you are so predictable in the line of arguments. I d bet you are baiting me just so your little alert stalking crew can jump on a post. Yet the reality is upthread for all to see, the name calling has come from you over and over.....and then running in circles starting the same name calling all over again. It doesn't really seem all that reasonable or normal

[beam me up scottie]

232. Oh my goodness, who called you names again? Better alert on those posts and get busy busy busy!

[Sheepshank]

234. Enough of the distraction...back to Bernie's mysogunistic essay

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[beam me up scottie]

237. How to know this is all an act: when the person hyperventilating can't even spell misogynistic

[Sheepshank]

239. Ahhh...the old typo argument. That's valid. Want a link to the creepy essay?

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[blm]

4. 3 posts in 8min. Last night it was one almost every 2-3 minutes

for awhile there. And many of those were just one-liners.

Nearly every post of yours is an attack on HRC since you started here and why you were forced into giving it a rest for awhile.

Why repeat the behavior?

What's with the board spamming?

[djean111]

30. On the other hand, the board is suddenly reeking with OPs claiming that Bernie is old,

and then there is the continuing spate of bullshit about Bernie's tax returns, as if he was hiding something. I think Hillary is the one who would hide something, frankly.

The odd thing, to me - no matter when Bernie releases his tax returns, it would not possible get me to support a candidate who is for war and fracking and the TPP. Bottom line. ISSUES.

[KittyWampus]

36. You don't LIE repeatedly about your tax returns & refuse to release them

unless there's something there to embarrass you or expose your hypocrisy.

I've already linked many times to the footage of Sanders lying on national tv about it.

[merrily]

43. Guess I missed it. In fact, I can't recall ever having seen you post a link.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

135. Well then you'll need to link again and provide proof.

Your word won't do shit.

[merrily]

38. It's a primary, ffs. Comparing the positions of candidates on issues is normal.

[blm]

125. I think the board is being targeted….

with a whirl of disingenuous postings.

[djean111]

127. Yeah, but why?

There is literally NOTHING that could persuade me to support a Third Way neocon warmonger. Even if Bernie dropped out.
What is their point? Just sheer ugliness and nastiness, I guess.

[blm]

130. Snipers using both sides to further division.

Happens here every primary.

[Sheepshank]

31. it's not gone unnoticed...bumping up post counts is the least of the reasons n/t

[merrily]

40. Posting a video of Hillary speaking is attacking her now? wtf.

[blm]

129. it's the spamming of posts…..perhaps you're missing the parts

of the post you don't wish to contemplate?

IMO, You have no sense of this board, merrily - you peg longtime DUers as operatives and provide back up for obvious spammers.

[merrily]

189. You made a post on this thread claiming it was an attack. I replied on this thread accordingly.

No one has any obligation to comment as well on your unsupported claims about other threads. Would this have met your high standards: Maybe those other thread you are timing (which feels somewhat creepy to me, but wth) were attacks, but this one is only a video of Hillary?"

And again, ad hom. You must be so proud of your posting style.

[chervilant]

192. Well, now...

(I am absolutely sure I've put you on my IL, yet here you are again...)

Before I put you back on my IL, I feel compelled to observe that this video of Hi11ary lecturing her listeners on the "sanctity of marriage" is offensive on the face of it -- and because she presumes that LGBT partners are not candidates for parenthood.

Really sad, in my opinion, that anyone supports her.

[blm]

194. I'm a Sanders voter criticizing the spamming of the board

with constant anti-Hillary posts. Perhaps YOU believe that recent posters putting up new threads within minutes of each other is normal behavior - I don't and 15yrs here and 3 primary election cycles informs my opinion.

[Zira]

149. Do you want to answer to the post? Did you watch the video.

Actually, I'll just put you on ignore.

Anyone can posts truths about the candidates and hopefully repeatedly.

[JoePhilly]

7. More manufactured outrage.

[berniepdx420]

14. no not manufactured... she is just not a Liberal and certainly not a Progressive

[merrily]

41. A video of Hillary speaking is "manufactured outrage?" Wow. Guess you've never seen an anti-Sanders

thread.

[guillaumeb]

67. You win this round. That comment was ridiculous. eom

[Ino]

8. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them...

When Anderson Cooper asked her if she would say anything to get elected, she answered: "Well, actually, I've been very consistent over the course of my entire life. I've always fought for the same values and principles."

No one calls her on this. I'd like to know exactly what are the same values/principles that account for the diametrically opposed opinions she spouts off.

[berniepdx420]

10. Just happened last night... now she supports a $15 minimum wage... incredible that anyone votes

for her..

[Ino]

11. Yeah, it was astonishing...

watching her suddenly pivot like that. "I've always supported $15!!!! It's truuuuuuuuuueeeee!!!!"

The 9/11 pandering.

Going on the bandwagon about abortion rights -- despite having recently advertised she's willing to compromise on it!

I just don't get the support for her. It's obvious she will do or say anything to get what she wants -- First Woman President™

[berniepdx420]

15. +1

[madokie]

50. The Clinton plan from day one

back in '92 was for Hill to be the first woman president. I'll say this she will never be president of these united states of America. It ain't going to happen and that can be taken to the bank 'cause its solid gold

[Zira]

153. +1

[840high]

241. .that^ X100

[AzDar]

12. She is a shape-shifting LIAR.

[TheDormouse]

13. Was she attending The Family's Bible study sessions during this period?

or had she already graduated to The Family's weekly prayer breakfasts?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics

I mean, is it really fair to blame her for basing her political positions on deeply held religious convictions?

[TheDormouse]

18. I can't be the only one who sees a potential connection here

[blm]

19. No….some of us pointed that out here in 2007-8.

The topic was pretty well-covered here at the time, but, back then Obama, too, didn't want to be so open about his support on gay marriage at that time, so it became a wash. Now, the whole party has pretty much shifted to supporting gay marriage, so, think of it this way……it's basically a win. Next issue.

[TheDormouse]

20. Obama's not running in this election though

and I'd rather we have a leader in the White House rather than a follower.

[blm]

143. I was answering your question about HRC, The Family, and gay marriage stance.

I guess you weren't impressed with the truth in the answer: YES - we discussed it throughout the 2007-8 primary here, and I was one of the posters making sure that everyone knew about it. We even had the author of the book The Family post here for a bit.

Hard to believe some of you don't even want to take "Yes!" for an answer.

[merrily]

34. smh. Replies 13 and 18 are about Hillary and The Family, not Obama and The Family.

This thread is also about Hillary, not Obama.

[blm]

137. Duh, merrily…I stated CLEARLY that back in 2007-8 we covered The Family and HRC very

heavily. In fact, I was one of those posting about it and we even had the author of the book posting here for a bit, as well.

Point being, the Dormouse was asking if anyone else sees HRC's Family connection in re to gay marriage stance - and my answer is YES - WE POSTED ABOUT IT ALOT back in 2007-8.

My, my, merrily….you sure have difficulty comprehending what people say when you have invested yourself in NOT believing them.

[TheDormouse]

162. no difficulty in comprehension; u wrote we have moved on, "next issue"

Some in the party may have moved on.
Many of us, however, see that the struggle for civil rights, including for LGBT people, remains a critical issue.

We only have two things to go by in trying to predict how a President Hillary would deal with LGBT civil rights issues: What she says she will do and What she has done in the past.

So what she has previously said and done in regard to gay marriage IS very much a matter of current interest.

[blm]

188. Sorry…I believe you WANT to believe the worst scenario and that's ALL

you want.

You've proved that time and time again.

I get out in the streets and protest. I get into meetings and speak out. I surround myself with my compatriots, gay, straight, trans, all colors, all sizes, mostly liberals, some centrists, some in-between, and we get people registered and to the polls. WE. GET. PEOPLE. TO. THE. POLLS. Those who see themselves as too precious to do the legwork are usually the ones complaining on social media about how no one else is as pure as they are.

Enjoy your evening, merrily.

[merrily]

186. Your Reply 19 could not have been that clear: I'm not the only one who thought it was about

Obama and only Obama. See Replies 20 and 162. Your additional explanations were posted after my post to you. And, once again, your reply is ad hom and unpleasant, as well as factually unsound.

[merrily]

32. She came out boldly for equal rights for gays since forever ago, 2013 to be specific!

[TheDormouse]

120. lolol

And only AFTER Joe Biden had, as I recall.

[KittyWampus]

33. Mayor Sanders Signed A Homophobic Marriage Resolution Himself:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8FLYbegXp9JNENTR0pVelk3bHM/view

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/02/06/clinton-surrogates-pounce-on-sanders-over-82-marriage-resolution/

[beam me up scottie]

49. That's been debunked, it had nothing to do with gay marriage:

Clinton Supporters Contorts Queer History to Attack Sanders’ Record

Please stop exploiting lgbt causes in order to smear Bernie, it's ugly and self serving.

[brooklynite]

47. So, you're saying she should have gotten the Vatican invite instead of Bernie?

[beam me up scottie]

51. Well they both believed that "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman".

[berniepdx420]

53. Hilarious but sad.. Bernie has championed the fight against income inequality for his entire

political career.. And you find a way to smear him for attending a Global Conference on Income Inequality... that's not the texture of a true Progressive... your allegiance blinds you from the facts

[guillaumeb]

55. Evolution in action. A wonderful thing. eom

[berniepdx420]

62. When you look deeper..it's actually a Weather-vane in action

[guillaumeb]

65. Attach the weather vane to a DC motor and produce some clean energy.

[berniepdx420]

66. .

[pdsimdars]

58. And you wonder how the famous gay people like Ellen come to endorse Hillary. . ..

when Bernie is the real deal. Bernie had the first gay pride parade in Vermont and I think Vermont was the first for gay marriage.
And yet, they say Hill is their gal. Makes no sense.

[dbackjon]

145. Are you LGBT?

[Zira]

163. Exactly. Ellen lost credibility on that one.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

69. Hillary + Principles = Oxymoron

[Bluenorthwest]

72. The recent horrible and untrue statements about AIDS and the Reagans bother me even

more.

[KittyWampus]

128. I'd think Sanders going all doe-eyed over Pope Francis, using his image

and pretending he was going to go meet him would bother you more, considering how often and loudly you bring up Rick Warren and how often I've seen you denounce the Pope any time anything remotely positive is posted about the man.

I'd also think you'd be more upset at Mayor Bernie Sanders signing a homophobic marriage Resolution.

You've accused me of hypocrisy maybe 3-4 times now and I've seen you do the same to many other DU'ers.

Here's a recent Sanders ad for you:

[beam me up scottie]

131. That wasn't an "homophobic" resolution, please stop exploiting lgbt causes to smear Bernie.

Clinton Supporters Contorts Queer History to Attack Sanders’ Record

[dbackjon]

141. Are you LGBT?

[berniepdx420]

144. Why is that of an consequence to you ??

[dbackjon]

147. Makes all the world of difference. Just answer the question.

[berniepdx420]

150. ewww... no thank you .. I don't take orders from you.. what is the point you are trying to make

[dbackjon]

155. So that is a no. Figured

Another Straight person again using my equality to try to score cheap political points.


Seen it all too often in my life to have any respect for people like you.



If you were LGBT, you would know WHY so many gays support Hillary.


But you aren't, so leave you shrill trolling to other subjects.

[berniepdx420]

159. Spare me your diatribe .. you don't know me.. and you are right about one thing..

I will never understand why LBGT Americans would support hillary

[dbackjon]

166. Then stop spewing shit about it

Since you are fucking clueless about it.


You probably STILL don't support us. Just a topic to smear your shit over.



People like you are worse than declared enemies.

[berniepdx420]

173. wow.. angry and bitter much... again you don't know me .. and by spewing shit are you talking

about the video containing the variety of stances hillary has taken on lgbt issues

your rage is manufactured and quite transparent..

and if you only knew my life but it's kind of fun to see your ignorance shinning through..

[dbackjon]

187. We have a new poster that trolls the board

No, I don't want to know your life, since you are fine with using my life for your trolling.


Hopefully, you will disappear once Hillary has the nomination. DU will be a better place for it.

[berniepdx420]

191. delusional much! If anyone is a troll it's you... as if hillary's record on gay marriage

isn't important to this election... thanks for coming into my Thread.. next time just don't click on it..

[dbackjon]

195. I will continue to call BS when I see it.

Been here for a dozen years, fighting for Democrats.

You? Probably voting for Nader

[berniepdx420]

198. Your so so so angry.. I want peace for you.. just chill... relax..

[berniepdx420]

164. More manufactured outrage from the Hillarites.. no respect for me.. that makes a ton of sense

your allegiance blinds you from the truth..

[chervilant]

199. What?!?

I'm LGBT and I do NOT understand why Ellen supports Hi11ary. In fact, I don't know why ANYONE supports her.

Blech...

(Welcome to my IL.)

[Zira]

161. Welcome to ignore. If your are LGBT you are doing no service to your community with this.

[dbackjon]

167. I am Gay. Been a member of the LGBT community on here for a decade or more

Was one of the gay members purged during the great gay purge of 2009/10

I have done plenty of service to my community, thank you.

[dbackjon]

168. You have NO FUCKING CLUE what you are talking about

When did you start supporting LGBT rights? Full marriage equality.

[blm]

196. WTF is the matter with you? You and the OP are going after longtime members here

refusing the validity of their positions for only ONE reason - your vanity won't LET you care what they think.

Or a second reason…you don't care about this board or any of its members and are using it for target practice.

[Ken Burch]

152. And, of course, we should ALWAYS base our principles on how things were in Bedrock:

[anigbrowl]

190. Oh no, Hillary held a different opinion about something in the past from today

Lots of people have changed their mind about sexual equality issues. I've changed my own mind on those issues, and I'm queer. Hillary's change of opinion bothers me not at all.

[berniepdx420]

193. I can respect your opinion.. disagree.. but respect...

[DisgustipatedinCA]

275. Difference is, there's no opinion she won't change for a price.

Do you want to be on the side that wins, or do you want to be in the right? I'll tell you that if I voted for Hillary, I would be very aware that I was compromising my integrity. Now you can come back on me and tell me how this story was misunderstood and that incident was incorrectly reported and that the other thing wasn't her fault. But you'll be doing gymnastics in order to accomplish that. You don't owe me answer at all, but I do hope my words are worthy of consideration.

[Jitter65]

208. Some of the most intolerant people are LBGT. I don't begrudge your same sex marriage. Why

do you begrudge other heterosexual marriage or life style? It seems that the same tolerance and respect that LBGT community asks for is exactly what they refuse to give to others.

[berniepdx420]

210. I don't follow.... I stand my ground on equal rights and equal protection under the law

[beam me up scottie]

211. What??? The most tolerant and accepting people I know are lgbtqia.

They know what it's like to be judged and condemned by their friends, coworkers, even disowned and shunned by their families.

[.99center]

224. Is this how it works around here now?

Discrimination against the LGBT community will be tolerated as long as Hillary said it first? I don't speak for the LGBT community but I'm pretty sure they don't give a shit about getting your respect, they just want the same legal rights as you.

[4ricksren]

229. are financial unions between politicians and corporate donors also sacred? nt

[840high]

249. Saint Hillary thinks so.

[.99center]

254. One of the most passionate

Speeches I've seen her give.

[MisterP]

266. I assure you, she's been positively bubbly on several occasions