2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton charitable contributions: $3,022,700 of which $3 million went to Clinton Family Foundation
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2014 1040:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/files/returns/WJC_HRC_2014_Form_1040.pdf
Stmt 3, page 33 of the PDF.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)Nothing gets out tough stains like a charitable foundation and a shell company in Delaware!
basselope
(2,565 posts)There is nothing illegal or unseemly about it in general, as many foundations do good, but the REASON they do it this way is to give them an out. It works like this.
You create a charitable foundation and donate 3 million to it. That money can sit in the foundation for any number of years. IF for some reason your finances don't go the way you want, you can always take a job as director of the foundation and pay yourself a salary. Now, of course you will now have to pay tax on that 3 million as you take it as salary, but it was deferred.
You can ALSO (if you are nefarious) save millions in taxes this way. Say you have some very good years.. you can donate high amounts to your charitable foundation. (Sheltering that money from high tax brackets in that year).
Then in years where you don't have other revenue, you can draw a lower salary from the foundation and thus get taxed at a much lower rate... the only issue would be that you would now be paying payroll taxes on that amount, BUT if you are REALLY smart, you can have a sub S-corporation be billed for your services and then pay yourself a lower salary from that S-corp and take the rest as dividends (which are exempt from payroll taxes).
Not saying that is what the Clinton's are doing here, but it is a strategy many of the 1%ers use.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)If it's not explicitly illegal, and it makes them money, they are doing it.
Of that I'm confident. And I remember seeing some of their form 440s or some such that describe salaries of board members of one of the several family foundations. Six figures. What a nice way to treat friends!
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)It is a huge scam for the wealthy.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And a great way to trade favors- you have your foundation do some work or shift money to one of your business buddies, and he or she returns the favor later.
It's just legalized corruption, and they make it so convoluted for some reason- maybe to show how clever they are at not being normal people.
PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)The charitable deduction was $3 million to The Clinton Foundation.
Think people.
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)I just looked at that tax return, and her $3 million goes to the Clinton Family Foundation. That's not the same as the Clinton Foundation. I don't know anything about the Clinton Family Foundation. Maybe someone can look it up.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Thats wonderful, save for the small detail that her charity of choice was her own family. The couple donated all but $200,000 of their gifts since 2007 to the Clinton Family Foundation, which isnt exactly the Little Sisters of the Poor.
While the foundation does contribute to charitable causes, it also doubles as a vehicle to promote the first familys political ambitions and public profile. It spends an outsized portion of its money, for instance, picking up the travel and other expenses for the whole family.
The foundation has also functioned between campaigns and stints in public office as a jobs program and financier for various Clinton operatives. Sidney Blumenthal, who was banned by the White House from a job at the State Department, was paid by the foundation while he was dispensing bad advice on Libya to Mrs. Clinton. Foreign governments, unions, wealthy Democrats and corporations donated to the foundation knowing its political importance to the woman who could be the next U.S. President.
Looks to me that the WSJ is saying the Clinton Family Foundation is the same as the Clinton Foundation.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)this is the kind of trips they take
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)22,700 - that's lost of used shorts
artislife
(9,497 posts)Now, really, are they going to close any of these loop holes? They have received so much from them. It is the same reason she will do NOTHING to overturn citizen united. How would she run a campaign without its support?