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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:46 PM Apr 2016

NONE of the Republican candidates have given paid speeches to Wall Street either - just Hillary.

Rubio hasn’t given paid speeches to Wall st. Kasisch hasn’t given paid speeches to Wall Street, Cruz hasn’t given paid speeches to Wall Street and Trump IS Wall Street and certainly isn’t giving any paid speeches to them.

Time for Hillary to release the transcripts. She said she would release them AFTER every candidate has released theirs. Well it is done. They are released. It was a good bet while it lasted. Now she must own up to her promise and release them now.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/24/1490821/-NONE-of-the-Republican-candidates-have-given-paid-speeches-to-Wall-Street-either-just-Hillary
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NONE of the Republican candidates have given paid speeches to Wall Street either - just Hillary. (Original Post) FreakinDJ Apr 2016 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #1
she uses her income for good causes, they don't nt msongs Apr 2016 #2
Oh how the respected have fallen. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #5
Like a $3 million wedding for Chelsea? jfern Apr 2016 #6
No she doesn't. Where are you getting this schit? Her and Bill have $150,000,000 that they rhett o rick Apr 2016 #19
Good causes, like her own presidential campaign? reformist2 Apr 2016 #28
The Clintons are just plain sleazy FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #42
Republicans don't have super Ds that have to be bought. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #53
Don't nobody hold their breath Politicalboi Apr 2016 #3
I have to wonder why she does all these speeches then claims that she's bad at campaiging Zira Apr 2016 #4
She'd bad at pretending she gives a shit about the worthless peons jfern Apr 2016 #7
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #11
^^^^THIS^^^^ Right here. Autumn Apr 2016 #24
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #31
+1000 FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #55
k/r 840high Apr 2016 #8
I hope there is nothing of substance when she releases them because I am sick of hearing DUers bitch LonePirate Apr 2016 #9
LOL. I think that's the point. There is nothing in them. She got paid $50 million for rhett o rick Apr 2016 #20
The typical person bitching about the transcripts has no concept about the dollars involved LonePirate Apr 2016 #25
What do you think of Bernie's having mentioned the speeches? senz Apr 2016 #26
Bernie's not obsessed with the speeches unlike some of his deranged supporters. LonePirate Apr 2016 #30
And you have a Bernie avatar? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #52
You can like the candidate but recognize he has a ton of deranged supporters. LonePirate Apr 2016 #62
Speeches to TransCanada Pipelines (Keystone) and Campgrounds using special Visas... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #56
Cause they don't know what the fuck they're talking about? ... Yes, Hillary is smarter, she at least uponit7771 Apr 2016 #10
Hahahahaha-she's busted farleftlib Apr 2016 #12
Republicans already know this and they are going to crush her FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #13
So let's not let them crush her. Let's nominate Bernie. senz Apr 2016 #27
Wouldn't it be illegal for a Senator or Congressman to give a paid doc03 Apr 2016 #14
That is a Political Fact FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #15
Facts don't matter with these people, read my post on doc03 Apr 2016 #16
But of course she was legal. The Rich Fat Cats made the laws that make it legal. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #21
So you have declared her guilty of breaking a law before she breaks it. doc03 Apr 2016 #22
It's called moral values. smiley Apr 2016 #48
All her opponents have to go out and give paid speeches and then release the transcripts jfern Apr 2016 #17
Who the fuck would pay to hear COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #18
#ReleaseTheTranscripts dana_b Apr 2016 #23
They aren't private citizens either. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #29
It is an ethics violation for sitting Senators to give paid speeches FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #39
Exactly! LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #49
So why is the media silent about the this FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #50
Uh, guys ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #32
This will eat her alive in the GE should she make it that far -- KPN Apr 2016 #33
She'll release them when all the other corporate gigolos do! mhatrw Apr 2016 #34
Because the economy sucks when Repulicans rule tirebiter Apr 2016 #35
Doesn't excuse Hillary from lying to the American people FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #37
Here weasel words covered that. None of the 2040 candidates have released their speeches. Scuba Apr 2016 #36
True, Chelsea Clinton hasn't released her transcripts jfern Apr 2016 #38
She's bought and paid for. John Poet Apr 2016 #40
Why hasn't the media called her out on it FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #41
Hillary pretty much dominates the golden chicken circuit (as opposed to the rubber chicken circuit). Vinca Apr 2016 #43
I suspect she's probably said more than a few things that would anger people those corporations polly7 Apr 2016 #44
Insurance of No Prosecutions FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #45
Yes, that's just ridiculous. There should have been some/many in prison. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #46
In any other country they are prosecuted FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #47
But SHE believes it. And if you say something over and over enough times... Octafish Apr 2016 #51
Right out of the KKKarl Rove Play Book FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #54
Where would she get such an idea? Octafish Apr 2016 #57
Hillary definitely has propensity towards Hiring Republicans FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #58
This will follow her into the GE if she's the nominee. What a mess. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #59
The tape will ne played over and over and over again FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #60
Wouldn't it have been illegal or seen as bribery if they had taken paid speeches from anywhere glowing Apr 2016 #61
Hillary would be calling for a Senate Ethics Violation if they had FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #63
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. No she doesn't. Where are you getting this schit? Her and Bill have $150,000,000 that they
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

amassed in a very short time. All came with quid pro quo attached. And their foundation is their retirement plan.

Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth or the worship of it.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. Don't nobody hold their breath
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

She won't disclose those. She is a LIAR. She never had any intention of showing us those transcripts. Let's hope the FBI ends this once and for all, She can read her transcripts in jail if anyone would listen.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
4. I have to wonder why she does all these speeches then claims that she's bad at campaiging
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

which is her excuse for not having rallies. You'd think she'd be used to standing up and talking in front of people.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
11. +1
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

And you can constantly see the cracks in her shell when she's faking it. She suddenly goes off on them and starts the finger pointing and the yelling. How dare the peons question her!

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
9. I hope there is nothing of substance when she releases them because I am sick of hearing DUers bitch
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

I personally don't give a damn what is inside them but the incessant, petty shouting on here to release them has me hoping there is nothing in them. Now that would be fun to behold.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. LOL. I think that's the point. There is nothing in them. She got paid $50 million for
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

just showing up. It's the corrupt culture of big money running our government.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
25. The typical person bitching about the transcripts has no concept about the dollars involved
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:03 AM
Apr 2016

The amount she received per speech is essentially the equivalent of a penny to the people paying her. For the typical American, the numbers may seem large but for the billionaires paying for the speeches, the amounts are less than trivial.

Then you have the completely idiotic belief that the Wall Street people are bribing her but she gave speeches to plenty of other people and organizations and yet nobody ever complains about them or assumes those people are bribing her.

There is so much absurd paranoia and idiocy from the people clamoring for the transcripts that it would almost be humorous but these people have developed a disturbing psychosis about them.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
56. Speeches to TransCanada Pipelines (Keystone) and Campgrounds using special Visas...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016

... are disturbing also.

Wall Street is just the tip of the iceburg.

But you are right that for them this is standard operating procedure.
The people who really matter are the ones who pay.
And this is a war between our people who pay and their people who pay.
The rest is just electioneering.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
10. Cause they don't know what the fuck they're talking about? ... Yes, Hillary is smarter, she at least
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

... can outline a plan for her platform

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
12. Hahahahaha-she's busted
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

Except she's still not going to release them. A woman who sets up a secret email account to escape accountability because she's using her SoS job to illegally enrich herself, is not about to let a silly thing like a valid reason to show her hand. Accountability? Hell no, that's for suckers.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
14. Wouldn't it be illegal for a Senator or Congressman to give a paid
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:15 AM
Apr 2016

speech to Wall Street. Hillary Clinton was not in an elected government position. Kasich was an investment
banker employed by Lehman Brothers. Doesn't Ted Cruz's wife work on Wall Street? The Donald is Wall Street.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. But of course she was legal. The Rich Fat Cats made the laws that make it legal.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:48 AM
Apr 2016

She and Bill have amassed over $150,000,000 from corps and billionaires that expect quid pro quo. The fact that it might be legal doesnt mean she will help anyone other than those Fat Cats that you seem to side with over those struggling among us.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
22. So you have declared her guilty of breaking a law before she breaks it.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

That's real Democratic values.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
17. All her opponents have to go out and give paid speeches and then release the transcripts
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

before Hillary will consider releasing hers

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
23. #ReleaseTheTranscripts
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:01 AM
Apr 2016

Good! Put the pressure on her BIG time now! There's NO reason for her not to do so.

Or, maybe there is....

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
32. Uh, guys ...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:24 AM
Apr 2016

I realize how desperate things are right now, with HRC still so far ahead in votes and delegates and all.

But at this point, you've run out of time. The magical transcripts you're so sure would turn things around for Bernie wouldn't a change a thing now.

Bernie is about to get his ass kicked in NY and beyond. You've seen the polls in the upcoming contests, and they do not bode well for BS.

It's time to stop hoping that the magical transcripts will show up, containing bombshell after bombshell that will sink HRC's campaign overnight and catapult your guy to victory.

If it hasn't sunk in yet, Hillary is NOT going to release those transcripts. And all the yelling, foot-stomping, crying, whinging and being poutraged isn't going to accomplish anything.

But hey, you can always go back to your fallback position - hoping that Hillary is indicted.

I think it so sad that the Bernie Revolution, which was going to capture the voters with its lofty ideals, is down to hoping his opponent will falter in some catastrophic way, simply because it's the only hope Bernie has.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
33. This will eat her alive in the GE should she make it that far --
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:32 AM
Apr 2016

unless there's nothing in them for her to be worried about in which case, why wouldn't she release them now?

Oh yeah, no one else is being held to that standard! Too funny! No one else running qualifies for that standard because they haven't given speeches to Wall Street.

tirebiter

(2,537 posts)
35. Because the economy sucks when Repulicans rule
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:43 AM
Apr 2016

They're bad for Corporations. They're bad for individuals. The data is there. They don't get paid to speak because they got nothin' to say. Zilch. Nada.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
37. Doesn't excuse Hillary from lying to the American people
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:42 AM
Apr 2016

I'm sure she has looked and knows she is the only one who gave paid speeches

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
36. Here weasel words covered that. None of the 2040 candidates have released their speeches.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:32 AM
Apr 2016

She didn't specify "in this election."

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
41. Why hasn't the media called her out on it
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:53 AM
Apr 2016

Her campaign staff has certainly been asked the question by the media

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
43. Hillary pretty much dominates the golden chicken circuit (as opposed to the rubber chicken circuit).
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:06 AM
Apr 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
44. I suspect she's probably said more than a few things that would anger people those corporations
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

have hurt.



But, she could be speaking about making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and it wouldn't make a difference; the fact that she took all those millions knowing she'd be running for president means those who paid her DO have a stake in decisions made once she got in. It's not her words they're paying for, it's her actions.



"I’m the ‘most transparent public official in modern times"

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
45. Insurance of No Prosecutions
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:10 AM
Apr 2016

Which means the Cost of Doing Business - $5.6 Billion in fines is merely passed on to the consumer

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
47. In any other country they are prosecuted
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

Tells you how corrupt the system has become

- Bernie is right

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
51. But SHE believes it. And if you say something over and over enough times...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

...others will believe it to be so. If enough do, who knows? It may reach the George Costanza threshold, where reality flips and the lie becomes true-enough because if you believe it to be true, by definition, it can't be a lie.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
58. Hillary definitely has propensity towards Hiring Republicans
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

Some thing we can all look forward to in a Clinton Administration

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
59. This will follow her into the GE if she's the nominee. What a mess.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

She'll continually be laughed at for touting transparency, while refusing to release these speeches.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
60. The tape will ne played over and over and over again
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:19 AM
Apr 2016

She talked herself into a corner she can't back out of

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
61. Wouldn't it have been illegal or seen as bribery if they had taken paid speeches from anywhere
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

because 3 of them were/ are elected officials.. And of course, Trump is the wealthy person most of these guys pandered to in the past for an endorsement.... Have they gone to these companies in an "official" capacity to give a speech to them or "visit" with the company? I'm a Bernie supporter, however, narrowing the confines of the topic to "paid speeches" vs speeches, etc, may be a bit more in line. AND I'm not sure the ethics rules regarding making speeches or having private meetings with CEO's or corporate board members and what the public is allowed to know? Congress makes their own rules for themselves, so I'm just not sure?

On Edit: I would assume that her speeches and the Republicans ham handing with these Wall St probably sound very, very similar.

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