2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNONE of the Republican candidates have given paid speeches to Wall Street either - just Hillary.
Time for Hillary to release the transcripts. She said she would release them AFTER every candidate has released theirs. Well it is done. They are released. It was a good bet while it lasted. Now she must own up to her promise and release them now.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/24/1490821/-NONE-of-the-Republican-candidates-have-given-paid-speeches-to-Wall-Street-either-just-Hillary
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Thanks for the thread, FreakinDJ.
msongs
(67,406 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)amassed in a very short time. All came with quid pro quo attached. And their foundation is their retirement plan.
Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth or the worship of it.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She won't disclose those. She is a LIAR. She never had any intention of showing us those transcripts. Let's hope the FBI ends this once and for all, She can read her transcripts in jail if anyone would listen.
Zira
(1,054 posts)which is her excuse for not having rallies. You'd think she'd be used to standing up and talking in front of people.
jfern
(5,204 posts)And you can constantly see the cracks in her shell when she's faking it. She suddenly goes off on them and starts the finger pointing and the yelling. How dare the peons question her!
Autumn
(45,084 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)LonePirate
(13,424 posts)I personally don't give a damn what is inside them but the incessant, petty shouting on here to release them has me hoping there is nothing in them. Now that would be fun to behold.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)just showing up. It's the corrupt culture of big money running our government.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)The amount she received per speech is essentially the equivalent of a penny to the people paying her. For the typical American, the numbers may seem large but for the billionaires paying for the speeches, the amounts are less than trivial.
Then you have the completely idiotic belief that the Wall Street people are bribing her but she gave speeches to plenty of other people and organizations and yet nobody ever complains about them or assumes those people are bribing her.
There is so much absurd paranoia and idiocy from the people clamoring for the transcripts that it would almost be humorous but these people have developed a disturbing psychosis about them.
senz
(11,945 posts)LonePirate
(13,424 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)LonePirate
(13,424 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)... are disturbing also.
Wall Street is just the tip of the iceburg.
But you are right that for them this is standard operating procedure.
The people who really matter are the ones who pay.
And this is a war between our people who pay and their people who pay.
The rest is just electioneering.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... can outline a plan for her platform
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Except she's still not going to release them. A woman who sets up a secret email account to escape accountability because she's using her SoS job to illegally enrich herself, is not about to let a silly thing like a valid reason to show her hand. Accountability? Hell no, that's for suckers.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)doc03
(35,337 posts)speech to Wall Street. Hillary Clinton was not in an elected government position. Kasich was an investment
banker employed by Lehman Brothers. Doesn't Ted Cruz's wife work on Wall Street? The Donald is Wall Street.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)doc03
(35,337 posts)edit.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)She and Bill have amassed over $150,000,000 from corps and billionaires that expect quid pro quo. The fact that it might be legal doesnt mean she will help anyone other than those Fat Cats that you seem to side with over those struggling among us.
doc03
(35,337 posts)That's real Democratic values.
smiley
(1,432 posts)She seems to be lacking in them.
jfern
(5,204 posts)before Hillary will consider releasing hers
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)anything any of these fools had to say?
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Good! Put the pressure on her BIG time now! There's NO reason for her not to do so.
Or, maybe there is....
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)Government employees can't either.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)I realize how desperate things are right now, with HRC still so far ahead in votes and delegates and all.
But at this point, you've run out of time. The magical transcripts you're so sure would turn things around for Bernie wouldn't a change a thing now.
Bernie is about to get his ass kicked in NY and beyond. You've seen the polls in the upcoming contests, and they do not bode well for BS.
It's time to stop hoping that the magical transcripts will show up, containing bombshell after bombshell that will sink HRC's campaign overnight and catapult your guy to victory.
If it hasn't sunk in yet, Hillary is NOT going to release those transcripts. And all the yelling, foot-stomping, crying, whinging and being poutraged isn't going to accomplish anything.
But hey, you can always go back to your fallback position - hoping that Hillary is indicted.
I think it so sad that the Bernie Revolution, which was going to capture the voters with its lofty ideals, is down to hoping his opponent will falter in some catastrophic way, simply because it's the only hope Bernie has.
KPN
(15,645 posts)unless there's nothing in them for her to be worried about in which case, why wouldn't she release them now?
Oh yeah, no one else is being held to that standard! Too funny! No one else running qualifies for that standard because they haven't given speeches to Wall Street.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)whoops!
tirebiter
(2,537 posts)They're bad for Corporations. They're bad for individuals. The data is there. They don't get paid to speak because they got nothin' to say. Zilch. Nada.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)I'm sure she has looked and knows she is the only one who gave paid speeches
Scuba
(53,475 posts)She didn't specify "in this election."
jfern
(5,204 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)I don't have to say the words.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Her campaign staff has certainly been asked the question by the media
Vinca
(50,271 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)have hurt.
But, she could be speaking about making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and it wouldn't make a difference; the fact that she took all those millions knowing she'd be running for president means those who paid her DO have a stake in decisions made once she got in. It's not her words they're paying for, it's her actions.
"Im the most transparent public official in modern times"
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Which means the Cost of Doing Business - $5.6 Billion in fines is merely passed on to the consumer
polly7
(20,582 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Tells you how corrupt the system has become
- Bernie is right
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...others will believe it to be so. If enough do, who knows? It may reach the George Costanza threshold, where reality flips and the lie becomes true-enough because if you believe it to be true, by definition, it can't be a lie.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Some thing we can all look forward to in a Clinton Administration
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)She'll continually be laughed at for touting transparency, while refusing to release these speeches.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)She talked herself into a corner she can't back out of
glowing
(12,233 posts)because 3 of them were/ are elected officials.. And of course, Trump is the wealthy person most of these guys pandered to in the past for an endorsement.... Have they gone to these companies in an "official" capacity to give a speech to them or "visit" with the company? I'm a Bernie supporter, however, narrowing the confines of the topic to "paid speeches" vs speeches, etc, may be a bit more in line. AND I'm not sure the ethics rules regarding making speeches or having private meetings with CEO's or corporate board members and what the public is allowed to know? Congress makes their own rules for themselves, so I'm just not sure?
On Edit: I would assume that her speeches and the Republicans ham handing with these Wall St probably sound very, very similar.