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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNote to Bill Clinton: There Is No Inherent Criminality
http://www.thenation.com/article/there-is-no-inherent-criminality/That Bill Clinton is now forcefully defending the same bill that, just last year, he admitted made the problem [of mass incarceration] worse does not come as a surprise. For the entirety of his political career, Clinton has attempted to sell regressive racist policies as a form of advancement for black communities, while enjoying a level of cultural cachet within those communities that has largely inoculated him from the criticism he deserves.
Those days are overand we are finally reckoning with the damage done during Clintons presidency and demanding more from the Democratic Party. But Clintons comments still shed light on the way our 1990s conceptions of crime and justice influence how we understand those conceptions today.
Undergirding Clintons defense of the crime bill is the belief in the existence of a natural and permanent criminal class of citizens. If there are people who are going to commit crimes, logically it follows that we should have mechanisms in place to punish those people. As that class of people grows and shows more and more disregard for the law, logically it follows that we should invest more in those mechanisms of punishment while also making them harsher.
But there is no inherent criminality. First, crime is not a fixed category of behavior. Anything can be a crime if we pass the legislation to make it so. Sagging your pants is a crime in some places. If Republicans have their way, performing an abortion, a routine medical procedure, could become a crime. What is and isnt illegal is not the best barometer for a behaviors morality.
And with that, what is and isnt illegal does vary from state to state, city to city. Consuming alcohol in public is illegal in some places, perfectly legal in others. Selling marijuana is illegal in most places, but, increasingly, legal in others. Does breaking a law in one state that isnt illegal in another state make you a criminal?
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Note to Bill Clinton: There Is No Inherent Criminality (Original Post)
eridani
Apr 2016
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jfern
(5,204 posts)1. The effective anti crime bill was that banning leaded gas
eridani
(51,907 posts)2. Should be an OP. Interesting data n/t
Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)3. That explains younger voters for Bernie also.
And republicans releasing lead in water pipes. And.....
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)4. K&R nt
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)5. Well said, but you know, this has gone well beyond reason.