2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders DEFINITELY met privately with Pope Francis
Washington Post
4/16/2016
Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis
ROME U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.
The brief meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs.
"They discussed the issues that the senator raised, that the pope has raised so often, at the conference yesterday," Briggs said, adding that there was no discussion of U.S. politics or Sanders's candidacy.
"He said that there was radiance in his presence and that he was very honored and humbled to have the opportunity to meet with the pontiff."
Sanders does not consider the meeting in any way an endorsement of his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, Briggs said.
Under Vatican rules there were no photographs of the meeting because it took place at the papal residence, Briggs said.
A source inside the Vatican, speaking on condition of anonymity, also confirmed the meeting.
"It was a private meeting and was not supposed to become public," the source said. "It had been planned for, and it happened."
And the Pontifical Academy of Sciences confirmed the meeting via Twitter.
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If even for just 5 minutes, what a THRILL for Bernie. I'm so happy for him!
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Thanks for the thread, RiverLover.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)They're going to be so unhappy.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)I'm so proud of Bernie.
He's a good man. A good person. Trying to do good in the world.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Response to Human101948 (Reply #2)
FlatBaroque This message was self-deleted by its author.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)They all deserve each other.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)So much butthurt but they brought it on themselves by taunting and sneering all week.
And I'm enjoying it immensely.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bernie lied to the Pope
Tacky
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)It WAS kept private before they met.
Afterwards he was permitted to talk about it. The tweet telling about it came from the vatican! See above.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)nt
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)he may go for a baker's dozen today.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)in your attempt to help Hillary's supporters diminish yesterday's supposed (hint: please use that word) meeting between Bernie Sanders and that Pope...
Loudestlib
(980 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)So, if true, I would like to see an apology or at least recognition.
randome
(34,845 posts)Clearly he changed his mind but whose fault is that?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Thus, I think an apology or at least recognition would be the honorable thing to do.
randome
(34,845 posts)It's the "Sanders Is Pure" crowd versus the "Sanders Is Dirt" crowd. I'm alternately amused/disappointed by them all.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)there's an endorsement.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)and has for years.
I find it hilarious you're so concerned suddenly when Hillary's lies read like a laundry list.
Hypocrite.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)behaved as if they personally knew the facts. And you accused Bernie of being a liar, when you had no clue about what was really going on. Even though you had no clue what was happening behind the scenes, that didn't stop your gaggle from mocking Bernie and making up lies that turned out to have no basis in reality.
"Bernie was never invited." "The Vatican doesn't want him there." "Bernie will not be speaking." "Bernie will only be speaking for ten minutes before a coffee break" "The Pope is leaving for Greece and wants nothing to do with Bernie." "Bernie is not meeting with the Pope."
This article mentions that the meeting had been planned.
Now you guys just look like vacuous gossips who were wrong the entire time.
No, we don't accept your apology for behaving like a mean gaggle of narcissistic sorority girls.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)I still think he's mostly good.
But the severe mockery here in regards to this Vatican thing has been particularly hard to understand.
Speaking about a moral economy is a GOOD thing.... how it's been a subject of ridicule is beyond the pale.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Oh wait ...
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)that's a crappy thing for Sanders' spokesman to have announced.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)But I suspect you knew that.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Jeez it's like you guys are sore about it or something.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Camp Sanders has lost this spin machine at turn after turn.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis
Tarc
(10,476 posts)But, sorry, a meeting in a foyer is not "private".
Keep digging though, that 2nd-place hole is getting pretty deep.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)please advance to retort #4...
see post #33 above
Tarc
(10,476 posts)having such a letdown from "an audience with the Pope" to "we said hi in a foyer".
Lot of face to save.
Good luck.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How is it?
Tarc
(10,476 posts)"The Pope invited Sanders to visit the Vatican" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders was invited to a conference"
"Sanders has a prized and prominent speaking slot at the conference" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders spoke for 10 mins before a coffee break"
"Sanders received a letter from the Pope" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "The Poe sent a letter to the conference attendees in general"
"Sanders will meet with the Pope" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders (conveniently) ran across the Pope's retinue (on its way out of the country) in a foyer (for a 5-min chat)"
And back to ignore.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Enjoy:
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)you are an embarrassment of ignorance...
but you ARE amusing on an early Saturday morning...
i think i'll go hit the beach and know i'm having a much better day than you...
PS - i see you are doing the hit & run 'ignore' method....nice
because everybody is allowed to roam around in the Pope's private residence.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)you are merely...vacuous...
the Pope just might have a little 'security' around him at all times...and you know that...or maybe you don't...
like anybody is going to get near the Pope without prior planning...
and maybe you should check out the arrangements that were made for the...oh damn...only about 5 minutes of face time...
you don't have a clue, so you post some 'said hi' bullshit...boy, that one really stung...or not...but definitely one of the two...
i hope you keep posting because i am really beginning to admire your hole...don't stop digging...
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The tears are going to short out those nice new servers.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)he has always exhibited a certain sense of humor...
this is so much better than we could have ever expected...not really the part where Bernie meets the Pope (which is great)...but the total meltdown/denial/obfuscation/anti-Catholic tones of all those who were not only wrong, but continue to double-down and think they are looking 'right'...
some minor karma for a Saturday morning...
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But the more they sneered and taunted the more I wanted this to happen.
Just. To. Piss. Them. Off.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,177 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That sounds like a highly personal meeting.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)If not, I really don't want to know what the Pope's resistance is.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I frequent a few electrical forums and use that word a bit.
Thanks!
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)...so...FAIL!"
time for me to give the local rum factory some revenue...
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)he's got the Pope's endorsement.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Good. They need this, and a thousand other things thrown right into their dishonest faces.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You can't spit in people's faces for a week and not expect a backlash.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Haters have to work overtime constructing multiple outrage scenarios.
It must be brutal.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's like watching toddlers have tantrums, peeking at their parents to see if it's working.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Honestly, this has been one of the lower moments of the campaign by Hillary supporters who are somehow attacking him for going.
I'll give it to HRC that she has not taken the same "tone" on this as some of her supporters.
kiva
(4,373 posts)And only delegates count, you know. Well, delegates and Wall Street.