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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:28 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders DEFINITELY met privately with Pope Francis

Washington Post
4/16/2016

Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis

ROME — U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.

The brief meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs.

"They discussed the issues that the senator raised, that the pope has raised so often, at the conference yesterday," Briggs said, adding that there was no discussion of U.S. politics or Sanders's candidacy.

"He said that there was radiance in his presence and that he was very honored and humbled to have the opportunity to meet with the pontiff."

Sanders does not consider the meeting in any way an endorsement of his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, Briggs said.

Under Vatican rules there were no photographs of the meeting because it took place at the papal residence, Briggs said.

A source inside the Vatican, speaking on condition of anonymity, also confirmed the meeting.

"It was a private meeting and was not supposed to become public," the source said. "It had been planned for, and it happened."

And the Pontifical Academy of Sciences confirmed the meeting via Twitter.

Casina Pio IV ‎@CasinaPioIV

.@Pontifex spoke to @SenSanders about foreign policy and climate issues, five minutes before leaving for Lesbos https://twitter.com/iscaramuzzi/status/721246027995561984
4:00 AM - 16 Apr 2016

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If even for just 5 minutes, what a THRILL for Bernie. I'm so happy for him!
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Bernie Sanders DEFINITELY met privately with Pope Francis (Original Post) RiverLover Apr 2016 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #1
Cannot have happened...all the Hillary supporters here told us so... Human101948 Apr 2016 #2
They'll say its a Rightwing Conspiracy! Sexism! Benghazi!! RiverLover Apr 2016 #3
It's apparently the only three words they know. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #4
Like their candidate and her husband BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #13
He ambushed the pope! He bragged to the press! He eats babies for breakfast! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #22
No, they shared a baby between them! randome Apr 2016 #23
"Was not supposed to become public" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #5
You are lying with this post. RiverLover Apr 2016 #15
Yes, after Bernie started bragging about it to reporters nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
Proof of that claim? You wouldn't want people to think you're making it up. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #21
I'd brag about it too! Who wouldn't? And he had the Pope's blessing to tell the world. RiverLover Apr 2016 #37
You lied. Again. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #58
Awww, you has a sad so now you're making up stories. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #18
I have a feeling Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #26
He's headed that way, should be a fun day. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #28
The flag will go up Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #30
Time to review accounts. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #31
thanks for posting current retort #3...please advance to retort #4 for all further posts islandmkl Apr 2016 #33
Ohhh someone is lying around here alright. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #40
Normally I wouldn't care....but...the Hillary supporters made such a huge fucking deal out of this Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #6
Why would anyone apologize for taking the Pope at his word? He said he wouldn't be there. randome Apr 2016 #8
The ceaseless and breathless mockery of Sanders regarding the whole Vatican visit has been awful. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #16
It's definitely overblown on both sides. Some of those I agree with are culprits, too. randome Apr 2016 #20
Sanders LIED repeatedly about it. And is lying NOW using the Pope's image to pretend KittyWampus Apr 2016 #59
Your faux outrage is noted while your candidate lies constantly pinebox Apr 2016 #61
But most Clinton supporters here CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #55
Would you settle for a double down? Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #27
Sanders is far from pure, his utilitarian votes on gun control and the F35 are examples of that. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #41
yeah. I heard he hired a criminal lawyer. roguevalley Apr 2016 #54
Eat your words, Hill-bullies! Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #9
Can you even wait for the next Hillarious attack? FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #25
Ew! That is gross. But crude as the cartoon is, you have a point. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #29
If it was supposed to remain private mythology Apr 2016 #10
Pope was foolish to trust BS nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #12
Ummm, it was to be private BEFORE they met so the press wouldn't be all over it. Not afterwards. RiverLover Apr 2016 #14
Only before the meeting, not after, why is this so difficult to comprehend? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
But the HilBots are now calling Pope Francis a "BernieBro" FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #11
Lol, what bullshit. Sander strategically bumped into the Pope's retinue in a foyer Tarc Apr 2016 #24
Vatican source: "It had been planned for, and it happened" beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #32
Oh yea, I did clear my ignore list the other day Tarc Apr 2016 #36
That's it, KEEP MOVING THOSE GOALPOSTS!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #38
please stop using retort #2 and skip #3...they have both expired... islandmkl Apr 2016 #34
It must be hard for you Tarc Apr 2016 #35
Actually we're the ones laughing while you eat crow. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #39
Once again Tarc Apr 2016 #42
Fact: the Vatican confirmed the meeting was planned beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #43
which is it that you cannot process: TRUTH or FACT? islandmkl Apr 2016 #45
Um, yeah Aerows Apr 2016 #66
YEAH...the Pope is just running around in his pajamas and Bernie is just waiting...is that it? islandmkl Apr 2016 #44
They're in full meltdown mode, it's something to behold, isn't it? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #46
Pope must check in on DU and just did what was necessary... islandmkl Apr 2016 #47
Yep! Honestly I wish all politicians would stay away from the pope. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #48
Next up: "Yeah, but it was only a BRIEF meeting!" nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #49
So it was planned and happened in the pope's resistance. NWCorona Apr 2016 #50
I think you've been a victim of autocorrect. winter is coming Apr 2016 #52
Yeah my new phone and the predictive text is bugging me. Still should have caught it tho NWCorona Apr 2016 #53
upcoming retort (#? - i've lost count): "yeah, well did the Pope write a check to Bernie's campaign? islandmkl Apr 2016 #51
So Sanders co-opts and uses the Popes image again? It's disgusting to pretend KittyWampus Apr 2016 #56
He sure did! And lots of malcontent troublemakers are grinding their teeth over it. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #57
They deserve it, what goes around comes around. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #62
No picture? Prove it happened! They took a picture? What a creepy media whore he is! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #65
They're trying the "we're OUTRAGED by the pope" talking point now. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #67
OMG, I was just half-kidding and then found this: CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #69
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt! Derp! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #70
KNR amborin Apr 2016 #60
I'm glad he met with the Pope, but even happier he spoke at the conference on income inequality. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #63
But the Pope's not a delegate! kiva Apr 2016 #64
The meeting Hillary supporters claim he lied about? Yup. I believe it is. n/t pa28 Apr 2016 #68

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
3. They'll say its a Rightwing Conspiracy! Sexism! Benghazi!!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:59 AM
Apr 2016


I'm so proud of Bernie.

He's a good man. A good person. Trying to do good in the world.

Response to Human101948 (Reply #2)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
22. He ambushed the pope! He bragged to the press! He eats babies for breakfast!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:25 AM
Apr 2016

So much butthurt but they brought it on themselves by taunting and sneering all week.

And I'm enjoying it immensely.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. No, they shared a baby between them!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:28 AM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
15. You are lying with this post.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:17 AM
Apr 2016

It WAS kept private before they met.

Afterwards he was permitted to talk about it. The tweet telling about it came from the vatican! See above.





islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
33. thanks for posting current retort #3...please advance to retort #4 for all further posts
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:03 AM
Apr 2016

in your attempt to help Hillary's supporters diminish yesterday's supposed (hint: please use that word) meeting between Bernie Sanders and that Pope...

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
6. Normally I wouldn't care....but...the Hillary supporters made such a huge fucking deal out of this
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:49 AM
Apr 2016

So, if true, I would like to see an apology or at least recognition.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Why would anyone apologize for taking the Pope at his word? He said he wouldn't be there.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:52 AM
Apr 2016

Clearly he changed his mind but whose fault is that?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
16. The ceaseless and breathless mockery of Sanders regarding the whole Vatican visit has been awful.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:17 AM
Apr 2016

Thus, I think an apology or at least recognition would be the honorable thing to do.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. It's definitely overblown on both sides. Some of those I agree with are culprits, too.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

It's the "Sanders Is Pure" crowd versus the "Sanders Is Dirt" crowd. I'm alternately amused/disappointed by them all.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
59. Sanders LIED repeatedly about it. And is lying NOW using the Pope's image to pretend
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

there's an endorsement.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
61. Your faux outrage is noted while your candidate lies constantly
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

and has for years.
I find it hilarious you're so concerned suddenly when Hillary's lies read like a laundry list.
Hypocrite.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
55. But most Clinton supporters here
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

behaved as if they personally knew the facts. And you accused Bernie of being a liar, when you had no clue about what was really going on. Even though you had no clue what was happening behind the scenes, that didn't stop your gaggle from mocking Bernie and making up lies that turned out to have no basis in reality.

"Bernie was never invited." "The Vatican doesn't want him there." "Bernie will not be speaking." "Bernie will only be speaking for ten minutes before a coffee break" "The Pope is leaving for Greece and wants nothing to do with Bernie." "Bernie is not meeting with the Pope."

This article mentions that the meeting had been planned.

Now you guys just look like vacuous gossips who were wrong the entire time.

No, we don't accept your apology for behaving like a mean gaggle of narcissistic sorority girls.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
41. Sanders is far from pure, his utilitarian votes on gun control and the F35 are examples of that.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

I still think he's mostly good.

But the severe mockery here in regards to this Vatican thing has been particularly hard to understand.

Speaking about a moral economy is a GOOD thing.... how it's been a subject of ridicule is beyond the pale.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
10. If it was supposed to remain private
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:58 AM
Apr 2016

that's a crappy thing for Sanders' spokesman to have announced.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. Ummm, it was to be private BEFORE they met so the press wouldn't be all over it. Not afterwards.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

But I suspect you knew that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. Only before the meeting, not after, why is this so difficult to comprehend?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

Jeez it's like you guys are sore about it or something.


Tarc

(10,476 posts)
24. Lol, what bullshit. Sander strategically bumped into the Pope's retinue in a foyer
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:43 AM
Apr 2016

Camp Sanders has lost this spin machine at turn after turn.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
32. Vatican source: "It had been planned for, and it happened"
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:00 AM
Apr 2016
It was a private meeting and was not supposed to become public," the source said. "It had been planned for, and it happened."

Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis




Tarc

(10,476 posts)
36. Oh yea, I did clear my ignore list the other day
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:10 AM
Apr 2016

But, sorry, a meeting in a foyer is not "private".

Keep digging though, that 2nd-place hole is getting pretty deep.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
34. please stop using retort #2 and skip #3...they have both expired...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

please advance to retort #4...

see post #33 above

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
35. It must be hard for you
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

having such a letdown from "an audience with the Pope" to "we said hi in a foyer".

Lot of face to save.

Good luck.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
42. Once again
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

"The Pope invited Sanders to visit the Vatican" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders was invited to a conference"

"Sanders has a prized and prominent speaking slot at the conference" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders spoke for 10 mins before a coffee break"

"Sanders received a letter from the Pope" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "The Poe sent a letter to the conference attendees in general"

"Sanders will meet with the Pope" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders (conveniently) ran across the Pope's retinue (on its way out of the country) in a foyer (for a 5-min chat)"



And back to ignore.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
45. which is it that you cannot process: TRUTH or FACT?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

you are an embarrassment of ignorance...

but you ARE amusing on an early Saturday morning...

i think i'll go hit the beach and know i'm having a much better day than you...

PS - i see you are doing the hit & run 'ignore' method....nice

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
44. YEAH...the Pope is just running around in his pajamas and Bernie is just waiting...is that it?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

you are merely...vacuous...

the Pope just might have a little 'security' around him at all times...and you know that...or maybe you don't...

like anybody is going to get near the Pope without prior planning...

and maybe you should check out the arrangements that were made for the...oh damn...only about 5 minutes of face time...

you don't have a clue, so you post some 'said hi' bullshit...boy, that one really stung...or not...but definitely one of the two...

i hope you keep posting because i am really beginning to admire your hole...don't stop digging...

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
46. They're in full meltdown mode, it's something to behold, isn't it?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

The tears are going to short out those nice new servers.


islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
47. Pope must check in on DU and just did what was necessary...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

he has always exhibited a certain sense of humor...

this is so much better than we could have ever expected...not really the part where Bernie meets the Pope (which is great)...but the total meltdown/denial/obfuscation/anti-Catholic tones of all those who were not only wrong, but continue to double-down and think they are looking 'right'...

some minor karma for a Saturday morning...

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
48. Yep! Honestly I wish all politicians would stay away from the pope.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:51 AM
Apr 2016

But the more they sneered and taunted the more I wanted this to happen.

Just. To. Piss. Them. Off.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
52. I think you've been a victim of autocorrect.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

If not, I really don't want to know what the Pope's resistance is.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
53. Yeah my new phone and the predictive text is bugging me. Still should have caught it tho
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

I frequent a few electrical forums and use that word a bit.

Thanks!

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
51. upcoming retort (#? - i've lost count): "yeah, well did the Pope write a check to Bernie's campaign?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

...so...FAIL!"

time for me to give the local rum factory some revenue...

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
56. So Sanders co-opts and uses the Popes image again? It's disgusting to pretend
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016

he's got the Pope's endorsement.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
57. He sure did! And lots of malcontent troublemakers are grinding their teeth over it.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016

Good. They need this, and a thousand other things thrown right into their dishonest faces.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
62. They deserve it, what goes around comes around.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

You can't spit in people's faces for a week and not expect a backlash.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
65. No picture? Prove it happened! They took a picture? What a creepy media whore he is!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

Haters have to work overtime constructing multiple outrage scenarios.

It must be brutal.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
67. They're trying the "we're OUTRAGED by the pope" talking point now.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

It's like watching toddlers have tantrums, peeking at their parents to see if it's working.


EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
63. I'm glad he met with the Pope, but even happier he spoke at the conference on income inequality.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

Honestly, this has been one of the lower moments of the campaign by Hillary supporters who are somehow attacking him for going.

I'll give it to HRC that she has not taken the same "tone" on this as some of her supporters.

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