Why is Bill Clinton trying to provoke Sanders supporters?

[Lone_Wolf]

His "shooting every 3rd person on Wall Street" comment seems profoundly irresponsible so what are his motives.

He's also repeated this "joke" more than once. Strange since nobody thinks it's funny. Is he purposely trying to get people to respond back with comments that can be construed as threats against himself, his family, or others? Would they be above politicizing secret service arrests and use that to marginalize the Sanders or Democracy Spring Protests?

Food for thought.

[w4rma]

1. Sometimes I wonder if the Clintons are trying to throw the election to Bernie.

I think that there is no way that the Clintons could be doing this new stupid thing, but they do it.

Then I have another, more likely, theory: that the Clintons are actively trying to run progressives OUT of the Democratic Party and are trying to bring the neoconservatives INTO the Democratic Party.

I really, think that the Clintons have a visceral hatred towards the progressive voters that make up over half of the Democratic Party. They are users.

[Lone_Wolf]

2. Interesting

n/t

[HooptieWagon]

30. It's already been made perfectly clear that true progressives aren't welcome in the party.

The reason corporations donate so heavily to the a Third Way isn't to beat the GOP, it's to keep the populists from winning.

[BeyondGeography]

3. It was every 3rd person

Don't exaggerate.

[Lone_Wolf]

8. typo. thanks for catching

[BeyondGeography]

11. It was for laughs

[Sky Masterson]

4. I think he is fishing

He wants to find a Bernie "Dean Scream" and he figures the best way to do that is by provoking young voters to act out.
This is really sad and Bill does know better. He just doesn't give two shits

[Myrina]

20. Correct.

He is trying to find a crack in Bernie's relatively calm personality. The Brooklyn debate showed Bernie has had it just about upto here with her shit & Bill is trying to push him over the edge.

But I think Bernie's 1960s Nonviolent Resistance training will serve him well, in the end.

[Cheese Sandwich]

5. He's telling low-info voters that Bernie Sanders is scary

You know how Bernie Sanders loves guns and hates Wall Street and talks about revolution and socialism? If he gets elected his supporters might murder a lot of stock brokers. Basically Bernie = Pol Pot.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. He is ill

the same as Ronald Reagan was in his later years.

[libdem4life]

36. Yes, the signs are all there.

A big difference is the situation with the wives. As I recall, Nancy was not pushing him into the public, but tried to protect him. OTOH, Bill is on campaign duty.

Bill back in the White House as the little dawg may not be a pretty set of events.

[uponit7771]

7. Cause they're funny when they invoke Podium Bird out of anger? tia

[nc4bo]

9. He's chumming but that nasty offal keeps back-splashing him. What a derp!nt

[HereSince1628]

10. It's really a classic form of rhetoric against an opponent

Ridicule an argument that's actually not made by the opponent.

Now on it's face it seems that Mr Clinton's issue isn't that Wall Steeters are innocent. It's that 1/3 of them are guilty, and 1/3 of all Wall Streeters is too many to jail. It's a argument outside the law, just as being too big to fail isn't a feature of law, neither is being too numerous.

That's certainly not a criterion that Clinton himself applied in his work to establish the poor as a criminal underclass.

[Vinca]

12. I'm beginning to think he doesn't want Hillary to win.

The one thing the Clintons have in common is massive ego. If she wins, she's the headliner in the history books as the first woman to be elected and he's a footnote about cigars and blue dresses.

[Lone_Wolf]

16. They also have greed in common

Money has always been a big issue for them.

[PeoViejo]

19. Bill Clinton: "We took some Money we shouldn't have."

Someone caught that on video. He was involved in a private conversation and didn't know he was being recorded.

That's going to hurt in Court.

[CharlotteVale]

22. I've always thought that...same as in 2008.

[jfern]

13. He has total disdain for anyone who challenges his wife or his terrible 3rd way politics

[BernieforPres2016]

14. Bill is angry because his destructive legacy has finally become common knowledge to Democrats

Democrats were so hungry for the Presidency after 20 of 24 years with Republican Presidents, and the Republicans went after him so hard, that most Democrats convinced themselves that Bill Clinton's economic bubble represented the triumph of Democratic politics. In hindsight, it became clear that he did a great deal to turn the party to the right, away from its legacy of FDR. He destroyed countless lives with his Welfare Reform bill, Crime bill and NAFTA. He helped create the corporate media with the Telecommunications Act. He fed the financial bubble and did the bidding of Wall Street by surrounding himself by people like Bob Rubin and Larry Summers and enacting the financial deregulation of Wall Street. And he disgraced himself and the office of the Presidency with the Monica Lewinsky scandal, with the corrupt wave of pardons as he departed office, and by his money grubbing behavior post Presidency that has included consorting with some of the most vile foreign despots in the world.

I think Bill Clinton's anger is less about Hillary having a tough primary race than it is about so many Democratic voters finally seeing him and his legacy clearly and repudiating him. Even Hillary tiptoes around Bill's record as President.

[noretreatnosurrender]

28. That

and I think he is angry because he no longer draws the crowds he used to draw. He is basically jealous of Bernie because he is used to being the center of attention and now he's not.

[JoePhilly]

15. How does one "provoke" the perpteually digruntled.

Say something ... don't say something ... either way, they're going to be disgruntled.

[Lone_Wolf]

17. Wouldn't you say they have reason to be disgruntled

Or are those rose colored glasses Hillary gave you making you see things differently?

[JoePhilly]

18. At times, there are reasons ...

... but having watch them for quite a few years now, it's clear that no matter what happens, they're angry.

The see no nuance. No complexity.

An event occurs, any event, and their hair immediately bursts into flames.

Outrage is always the goal.

I stopped taking them seriously a long time ago.

[Myrina]

21. What's the saying? First they ignore you, then they laugh

... at you, then they fight you, then you win?

Looks like Bernie's in the hone stretch.

[geek tragedy]

23. Sanders supporters pushed that "superdelegate hit list" thing

so seems fair.

[w4rma]

25. Many superdelegates only support Hillary because of Hillary's hit list.

As one of the last orders of business for a losing campaign, they recorded in a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet the names and deeds of members of Congress. They carefully noted who had endorsed Hillary, who had backed Obama, and who had stayed on the sidelines—standard operating procedure for any high-end political organization. But the data went into much more nuanced detail. “We wanted to have a record of who endorsed us and who didn’t,” a member of Hillary’s campaign team said, “and of those who endorsed us, who went the extra mile and who was just kind of there. And of those who didn’t endorse us, those who understandably didn’t endorse us because they are [Congressional Black Caucus] members or Illinois members. And then, of course, those who endorsed him but really should have been with her … that burned her.”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/hillary-clinton-hit-list-102067

[Lizzie Poppet]

24. Part his usual smarminess, part early-onset dementia.

The Big Dog is pretty obviously suffering from declining faculties. If Hillary ends up in the Oval Office (*vomit*), it's going to be hard to watch his very public descent.

[Peregrine Took]

26. I say he, genuinely, hates them.

The old moderate/DLC/third way hatred of people who live according to the principles they once had when they were young but no longer do.

[TheDormouse]

27. Take a look back at the 2008 primary. Exact same playbook.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/bill-clintons-8-digs-at-obama-080728

[OhZone]

29. It's because some Bernie Supporters hate Wall Street so vehementally -

it blinds them to the fact that most people on Wall Street are drones, eeking out a living: clerks, receptionists, computer operators, food industry people, janitors. Not everyone is a broker or CEO. Almost none in the industry are responsible for the bad management at the top.

And most of them suffered from the crash too. Layoffs, salary freezes, and outsourcing.

[AgingAmerican]

32. So wall street is a victim of itself?

Thanks for that gem....lol

[malokvale77]

35. Hah...

That really was a gem.

Like we don't know the difference in the lowly wage earners and those at the top stealing from all of us. SMH.

[Punkingal]

31. Because he is an entitled asshole?

[99Forever]

33. Because he is an asshole.

A lying, cheating, back-stabbing asshole at that.

[AzDar]

34. He needs to gather up what's left of his dignity, and head back home...