2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYou did it Guys! You changed me from Bernie to Hill
It was that damn Popegate!!!
Or was it "Corporate Whores"?
Or was it his boring ass tax forms.
I was a staunch Bernie supporter who loved his stances on about every issue and have had a problem with Hillary Clintons voting cowardice, but you did it!
I'm with Derp!
Keyboard activism is the shit.
Disclaimer:
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)This actually is the case for me. You can see it in my posting history here. I'm a NY voter and I registered as a dem (from Independent) last fall intending to vote Bernie in the primary to send a protest vote up, as I am hardly Hillary's biggest fan.
But over the last few months the opposite has happened. And Bernie lost a NY lefty primary vote. And I'm not alone among my colleagues and friends, many of whom live Bernie's stances but find the behavior of his supporters to be pervasively misogynistic and immature, suggesting he can't control them, much like Trump.
Sorry bro. Call me insincere or a dupe of corporate money or whatever, but I'm likely to your left and I am an actual lost Bernie vote due to the stridency and meanness of his campaign and supporters.
Never thought he could win. Still don't. Consider those who say otherwise delusional idealists beating the rest of us with a club of self-righteousness. Wall Street bankers are Americans too. So are conservatives. So are Clinton supporters.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Besides calling me "bro" you stated your opinion.
I disagree with it wholeheartedly.
I happen to believe that her campaign is nasty and her supporters act as bad or if not worse than those who back Bernie Sanders.
Have you ever wondered why young Bernie Sanders supporters are acting out?
Could it be that they have never been involved in politics before and don't fully understand how primaries go.
Bernie has tapped into a sector of our voting populace that wouldn't give two shits about voting and politics because the people running all said the same thing at various points in their lives. And then comes Bernie. He had the courage in a national debate to stand up and say that Palestine has value. Who else has the courage to say that. Hillary danced all the way around it.
Kids see that.
These "bros" Which is a bullshit label) feel as passionate as you do about Hillary and where you see them "acting out" it is because they are afraid.
They are angry.
They may be new to politics but they aren't stupid.
They see the media pandering one way.
They hear night after night how Bernie "can't win" and should "Drop out".
I think you should consider stepping up on a ladder and taking another look around the room and see it from the other side.
Frustration breeds anger and understanding brings peace.
I got to head to work so I can't reply til much later to peoples post here.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)complete with sarcasm tag.
So now you'll play disingenuous second fiddle too?
Hillary will win. See you on the other side. NY is putting her over the top. And my one-time Sanders vote is f'ing going to the Iron Lady.
You can sneer all you want. My point is it's costing you voters. I'm one. You can keep laughing about it until you lose. Bro.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Guess trying to splain things nicely doesn't work here.
It aint over until the heavy-set lady sings.
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rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)It's gonna be over alright.
You don't have to speak for all Sanders supporters. I don't speak for all Clinton supporters (hell my supper for her is tepid at best). But it's already over.0
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts).
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)And you criticize people for self righteousness?
Hooookay.
jfern
(5,204 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Joob
(1,065 posts)And A Liar, Never going to meet the Pope
Corrupt Financing, Look at his TAXES Corporations don't give him money wtf?!?!
He loves GUNS omg, he even tried banning assault rifles.
Hillary supporters are soooo much Nicer, they actually post facts to back everything up, like. They'll show you even video proof, and the Bernie supporters are self righteous they just start saying He, I mean SHe is lying with NO PROOF to back it up, except maybe Lies from another Liar
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)when you engage with others and quickly offer them relief