I am ashamed for many Hillary supporters

[Android3.14]

The way they treated this visit to the Vatican, among all the other ways we can describe it, was simply unnecessary.

This is what Hillary's leadership does to her followers.

[beam me up scottie]

1. Actually many of them were like that before the primaries.

Bernie challenging the anointed one just made them worse.

[Puglover]

12. Thank God someone else has a memory around here.

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Almost to a poster these were the folks that excoriated LGBT folks for daring to voice discontent with PBO's choice for the invocation at his inauguration.

The same folks that said and I quote "You have enough rights"

Same posters, every single time.

If Hill gets the nod this site will become a creepy ghost town.

[yardwork]

15. Really. I've noticed a lot of those old bigots reccing Bernie threads.

Just saying.

Also, I'm not interested in hearing about what a wonderful guy the pope is. Talk about hypocrisy.

[Puglover]

38. Honest to God.

I thought about you and thought "I should edit my post to "Almost to a poster". You certainly were not involved in that.

[SusanCalvin]

106. No, he's definitely not a wonderful guy, in his professional capacity.

Unless they rewrite a lot of the Church's teachings, there's no way a pope could be.

[beam me up scottie]

16. Oh I remember, they're also the same ones excusing anti-Semitism this time around.

They're calling for another purge too, amazing how that works, eh?

[roguevalley]

78. they mock a man trying to end poverty. they love

Money and things now because I believe many aren't in chains themselves, they put people in them

[beam me up scottie]

94. The lengths they go to in order to smear him are unreal.

They lied about his civil rights record, his marriage, called him a deadbeat, a racist, even accused him of being a sexual predator.

So much hatred for the humble senator from Vermont who's worked so hard to help us for decades.

I don't get it.

[DemocracyDirect]

100. Simple. They are people who step on other people to get what they want.

If you get in their way then you get stepped on.

And so many who have no voice are just stepped over.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

127. Even worse. They'll drop something on the ground so you'll reach down to get it--instant step stool.

[2banon]

105. This!^^^^^^10000 Too!

[PufPuf23]

57. Bet DU is being used as opposition research and a focus group now.

Not so odd a thought given that many DU posters who support Hillary Clinton were given amnesty and allowed to continue abusive posting despite the predominance at DU that favor Sanders and the many that not only favor Sanders but actively dislike Hillary Clinton.

[FreakinDJ]

61. Then you need to remember Hillary is not the right candidate

[PufPuf23]

73. I am for Sanders. I do not believe Hillary Clinton has the character to be POTUS.

That said, it has occurred to me, as described above, that DU is a research tool for the Clinton campaign.

[brewens]

134. You'd be right had character ever been a requirement since the 70's. n/t

[shanti]

162. yes

i've considered that as well. probably get a lot of their talking points from posts here.

[Marr]

86. +1, that is the truth.

[2banon]

102. Just to name one issue among soooo many others, they took Reich Wing Positions.

It would take an enormous amount of time to list off the number of positions and policy matters progressives took issue with, only to see those supporters attacking us and arguing right wing talking points, straight up from freeperland. on this very sight.

[Marrah_G]

133. I am an avid Bernie supporter and I was pissed about the inauguration

I could not even bring myself to watch it. Lumping people into groups is a big mistake.

I was bashed as a PUMA well after the GENERAL election, even though I switched to supporting Obama after Clinton dropped out.

I think everyone needs to stop the name calling and the assumptions about one another because after the nomination we all need to get behind someone to keep Trump out of the Oval Office.

[2banon]

97. This!^^^^^^10000!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

124. Right. This sociopathic behavior didn't just spring up one day. It's been here for a long time.

That's why I'm glad good people like you don't give them a quarter inch. They'd take it and they'd use it against you. These are dishonest people, and we need to go straight-on against them--nothing cute, just shoving them straight back into the disgusting hole they crawled out of.

[beam me up scottie]

131. That much bitterness and hatred didn't just develop overnight.

They've been disrupting DU for years, collecting in protected groups to launch attacks, ganging up on targeted posters, trying to get people banned, nasty business. It's only because we've all united behind Bernie that we have any power at all. There is strength in numbers and I hope everyone remembers this after the primaries are over, if you see someone getting bullied step in, vote to hide personal attacks, give someone encouragement - even if it's by pm. It's our home too.

[villager]

155. Bitter, humorless, vindictive....

I wonder how they think that makes a campaign "attractive?"

[uponit7771]

2. Sanders campiagn hasn't faked endorsements in the past? tia

[Android3.14]

3. You are a bully

The way you and many of your cohorts have behaved these past months is awful.

Like I said, I feel ashamed for you - not of you.

[uponit7771]

107. Red herring, simple straight forward questions aren't bullying

[DisgustipatedinCA]

129. There are very few people with the requisite stupidity or ignorance to believe your claim.

Straightforward questions my ass. Tell it to a website you haven't already half-burned to the ground.

[uponit7771]

138. Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position

[DisgustipatedinCA]

140. Great. And my declarative statements are just that--declarative statements.

[uponit7771]

145. Nah, they're ad homs... it's a rational straight forward question relative to what Sanders camp has

... already apologized for multiple times in the last 8 months.

You can call names all you want, which sounds more like bullying to me than asking a relevant to past action question, but reality stands stronger.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

146. A declarative statement, as in, I don't need your input. Sure, you can give it, but your past

actions carry consequences. You'll never again be afforded any respect by me. You bought it, you name it.

[uponit7771]

157. Your ad homs towards a rational question define how much your "respect" is worth a lot more than

... any actions I've taken

[Android3.14]

148. Stay away from me.

You have a poison pen, and you ape your candidate with bullying in the worst way.

I know your game.

It's vile that you seem incapable of recognizing when you should leave someone the hell alone.

[uponit7771]

158. K, rational questions = bullying now.. .bookmarked and saved

[Major Nikon]

161. Results...

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Stay away from me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1752479

REASON FOR ALERT

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

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[CorkySt.Clair]

156. Bernie fans have done the same thing

There's plenty of blame to go around for the vitriol here. It's not just HRC fans.

[NWCorona]

63. Like Hillary's fake twitter followers?

[uponit7771]

110. Hearsay and false equivalency

[NWCorona]

117. Not hearsay but yes I'm having fun but it's not that false really

[uponit7771]

139. Link and quote to direct evidence of HRC campaign setting up the fake accounts and its a false

... equivalency to compare false advertisement fo endorsements from labor groups, which Sanders camp has apologized for multiple times, to fake twitter accounts that can be set up by anyone.

I'll wait

[itsrobert]

104. This is a very good point

Camp Pinocchio cant be trusted.

[uponit7771]

112. +1, They've done it more than once IIRC... it became a pattern

[lumberjack_jeff]

116. Unlike Clinton, he until recently lacked the money to buy them.

[uponit7771]

143. Podium Bird tell you that all the endorsements from labor groups were bought ?! Making shit up ...

... should be the main stay of Sanders camp arguments.

[lumberjack_jeff]

147. The endorsements came from union bosses who are now facing pissed off rank and file. n/t

[uponit7771]

160. So most of the rank and file union are pissed off at their boss's endorsement of HRC or is this a

... small and vocal portion?

tia

[lumberjack_jeff]

164. One determines sentiment by voting. Union bosses conspicuously avoid that step.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-clinton-teachers-20151001-story.html

[mainer]

4. It really was revealing as to the character of her supporters

they took a sweet little story about a Jew from Brooklyn (whose candidacy was always a longshot) going to see the Pope, and they reacted with bitterness and rage and ridicule.

Is this what we can expect from President H. Clinton? Four years of bitterness and rage and revenge?

[BernieforPres2016]

9. What we can expect is impeachment hearings

I'll be like

[Katashi_itto]

20. I am looking forward to the nonstop impeachment hearings while the world burns.

Knowing we had a candidate that might of stopped it, but they went with Hillary.


I will have lots of popcorn ready.

[yourpaljoey]

29. This will suit the puppet masters well

Business as usual while the country is occupied with the endless hearings

[Katashi_itto]

30. Pretty much that was the plan.

[yourpaljoey]

32. Looks that way, does it not

[Katashi_itto]

33. While the impeachment trials go on and on they will part and parcel the country out.

[yourpaljoey]

42. That is a quotable, once sentence summary

[dchill]

60. +1,000,000

[CorkySt.Clair]

152. I bet you are looking forward to it.

Some have strange fantasies, but whatever gets you through Bernie's loss.

[Lizzie Poppet]

34. I wouldn't worry about four years.

No way she avoids impeachment, if elected. And I don't think we can gain enough in the Senate to avoid conviction...

But since I don't think she can win in November, it's all moot.

[artislife]

46. I am with you on that.

There will be a lot of bullies crying about it had been her turn etc.

[libdem4life]

166. It's not like she's unfamiliar with the territory or anything.

First female president will come with more "firsts"...likely overshadowing and trivializing the gender element. And as a woman, I want our First Female to be a real role model, not lawyered up and awaiting who knows with the emails and the Foundation.

It's not like ... You too can become president just like me.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

55. Those questions answer themselves... sad.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[CherokeeDem]

95. "sweet little story about a Jew.... going to see the pope"

He was invited to a conference... nothing sweet or inherently unique about that... he wasn't invited to meet the pope... that he did was only by the graciousness of Pope Francis.

Stop trying to make this another little 'birdie' story....

[mainer]

113. Bernie's visit with the Pope was already planned

That's just been reported in the news. It happened as planned. Yes, he was invited to meet the Pope.

[delrem]

5. c'mon, these are the folks who brought us "snowald" hate.

They aren't Dems.

[FlatBaroque]

22. It is the same group of online bullies who take every position

contrary to traditional Democratic values. They make the internet a less healthy place.

[dubyadiprecession]

6. Protesters should be ashamed of themselves at Hillary events..

This just shows their desperation to create discord, because they know their candidate is losing.

[roguevalley]

80. aww. bringing truth to money fests is a sad 4 you?

Don't worry. She keeps a white noise machine in her berken bag.

[Bluenorthwest]

92. So you are saying Black Lives Matter protesters should be ashamed of themselves?

That's a strong stance to take.....

[DisgustipatedinCA]

141. Don't like freedom of speech? Too motherfucking bad.

[Hissyspit]

168. Not really.

[BernieforPres2016]

7. Hillary doesn't make her followers the way they are

She just brings out the worst in them. Just as Trump didn't make his followers the way they are. They have always been around. He just showed the rest of us how many of them there are.

[Myrina]

25. ^^ Thread Winner ^^^

Sadly, you are 100% correct.

[pdsimdars]

53. I aree too.

[FlatBaroque]

26. That's a good point

they see their leader's behavior and emulate it to some extent. Casual acquaintance with the truth is a perfect example. Revisionism is another.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

67. Sad, but true.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[geek tragedy]

8. Sanders and his people should be ashamed for turning the Pope and

Catholic Church into political footballs in a presidential election.

[Capt. Obvious]

11. Come everyone

Let's all laugh at the projection and lack of self awareness.

[artislife]

47. I do every time I see a post or OP from that one

It is more like Geek Comedy...but the laughing is at 'em not with 'em.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Yes, isn't it obvious Captain? hahaha

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

130. Garden variety dishonesty and game-playing from that one. nt

[beam me up scottie]

18. He said with a straight face.

[roguevalley]

81. I believe some get paid to

[panader0]

19. So you think the Vatican scheduled this conference as a campaign event for Bernie?

Awesome!

[RunInCircles]

21. Geek don't take this the wrong way but

You have been a prime cheerleader for trying to smear this. The obvious efforts to discredit and destroy this using failed talking points at every level of this story only served to raise the visibility and turn this into a more miraculous and beneficial story for Bernie.
The level of invective really highlights how powerful Bernie's campaign is and shows the deep fear spreading among Clinton supporters.
If Clinton's camp and you had spent your time ignoring it or almost any other tactic than the constant scream of negativity this would have been so much smaller of a story than it has become.
I think you have been hit with your own torpedo here.

[Lizzie Poppet]

31. Please tell me that twaddle was bot-generated.

I'd prefer to think anyone with the intelligence and good sense to be a regular poster on a (ostensibly) liberal site like this wouldn't actually post something as simultaneously despicable and idiotic.

[HooptieWagon]

39. Wow. Butthurt level 10.

[beam me up scottie]

54. 11

[KittyWampus]

109. Gullible level 11.

[opiate69]

135. Correction:

12

[Betty Karlson]

10. Clinton is no leader, she is a follower.

Her followers, like the candidate herself, take directions from her advisers. (Whom I don't trust.)

[reddread]

13. trump voters

the new puma zoo crew review

[me b zola]

14. It was petty

The ugliest type of petty.

Bernie was invited to participate at the conference because of his life-long work for economic justice, and the call to see economic issues from a moral frame. That, all by itself should have been applauded...but no, not here. How sad that the desire to promote their desired candidate would have them act so petty in an attempt to dismiss this honor.

[Tarc]

23. The Vatican visit was one lie/exaggeration after another

"The Pope invited Sanders to visit the Vatican" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders was invited to a conference"

"Sanders has a prized and prominent speaking slot at the conference" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders spoke for 10 mins before a coffee break"

"Sanders received a letter from the Pope" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "The Poe sent a letter to the conference attendees in general"

"Sanders will meet with the Pope" FICTION <-----> TRUTH "Sanders (conveniently) ran across the Pope's retinue (on its way out of the country) in a foyer (for a 5-min chat)"

[me b zola]

37. Doubling down on the petty makes it even less attractive

Bernie received an invite from the Vatican to participate in a conference about morality in economic issues.

Bernie went, was received warmly by the people of Rome and the Vatican, and participated in the conference.

Bernie met privately with Pope Francis.

~~~

Pope Francis has always tried to veer away from politics and focus on the issues. If I were a fly on the wall of the Vatican I may know the mechanics of how Bernie's invite came to be, but I am not so I do not and I really don't care.

It was an honor that Bernie was invited to participate. Period.

[riderinthestorm]

43. All false, even your last point

ROME — U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders says he met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.  

The meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs.  

A Vatican source said the meeting was not a chance encounter and had been planned.  

The Sanders campaign had been vague about the senator's itinerary here following his address Friday to a Vatican conference. Francis left Rome later Saturday for Greece, where he is visiting migrants stuck on the island of Lesbos.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/16/italian-media-sanders-met-privately-with-pope-francis/ 

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

72. Why let the facts stand in the way of more Clintonesque bullshit?

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[hueymahl]

56. Pathetic Lies

Have you no shame?

[roguevalley]

82. poor thing. sad, sad, sad. they prove our point

[AgingAmerican]

90. Pathetic

[KittyWampus]

111. You forgot Sanders had his partisan hack insert that 10 minute speech RETROACTIVELY.

[Agschmid]

17. Don't feel ashamed for me, I wasn't even involved.

The broad brush stuff has to stop.

[roguevalley]

83. then police your own ranks. this pope slam was

Vomitous.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

132. Well, you are making common cause with some pretty low people. Your choice.

[Agschmid]

163. No I haven't been.

It won't fit your narrative, I know.

It's great that he went to the Vatican, and it's pretty cool that he met The Pope.

I'm not catholic, I'm not a fan of religion to be honest but I'm not about to knock this event.

[mythology]

24. And Sanders supporters have been as pure as the driven snow?

You can't actually claim with any degree of objectivity that some Sanders supporters haven't acted in poor ways on some subjects.

[Bluenorthwest]

98. Sanders supporters police our own. The poster I have been most critical of was posing as a Sanders

supporter. I tore that rat fucker to bits and yet Hillary supporters barf his bullshit at me as if I wrote it instead of objecting to it as I did.

I never, ever see any Hillary supporter object to the antisemitic shit, to the homophobic shit nor to the basic nasty bullying done in Hillary's name on DU. Never. None of you stand up to your own. You just let them say and do anything and you all seem to be proud of your very worst.

[Autumn]

27. They were the same before, many of them still say the same old nasty things, they just replaced

Hillary's name with Bernie's.

[artislife]

48. All of them. Each and every single one. nt

[Autumn]

52. To a tee. nt

[roguevalley]

85. 'crusty old Jew'. It took a Berner to get that banned

[Autumn]

87. Did that poster get banned??? never mind, just flagged

[Lizzie Poppet]

28. I have so many on Ignore now that I no longer see more than a glimpse of the asshattery.

... Every single one of them for some sort of churlish, smug, lying, or just generally assholish statement, too...not just supporting Hillary. The latter is inexplicable to me (unless the poster is a 1%'er...then it sort of makes sense), but not worth an Ignore. But over a hundred Hillary supporters have been sufficiently jackass-ish to end up on the list.

Prior to this primary season? Five people on the list for years.

Now? Well over a hundred.

[pdsimdars]

59. Did you count the list or is there a place where they have the number written for you?

I have a lot on my list and it would be nice to know how many but I'm certainly not going to count.'

And they're on it for just what you said. . . .so much nonsense. . I'm much less annoyed than I used to be now that the annoyance has been relieved somewhat.

[Lizzie Poppet]

64. I counted.

So the count may be off a bit...it's a long-ass list!

[2banon]

118. I haven't counted mine, but at a glance it's about that, maybe even more.

I just caught sight of a nasty bully in this thread I have on ignore, but see the name in the replies. Astonishingly, right wing bully rhetoric and tactics.

[HooptieWagon]

35. Their sense of entitlement doesn't have room for shame.

You would think they would already feel shame for Clinton's lies, corruption, war-mongering, dirty tricks and smears, and friends like Kissinger. But they don't. They are ammoral.

[KittyWampus]

50. Hillary supporters aren't the one protesting a fund raiser for Democrats running for office.

[riderinthestorm]

128. Hillary's Victory Fund has been exposed as a sham. The funds really just go to her

Your assertion that she's raising money for down ticket races isn't true.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511749866

[sufrommich]

36. The Vatican trip is political pandering and would be

bemoaned as such by every Sanders supporter on DU if it were the Clinton campaign. Utter hypocrisy.

[pdsimdars]

71. No, and that is where you get it wrong. We are NOT all like you.

Just look at the posts. With Hillary people it is all about winning and the campaign.

But for Bernie people it is not. If it were all about campaigning, he would have done much better to have stayed and done his rallies. All the Bernie people talk about is the honor and the message. This is the message he has been devoted to through his lifetime and he got a bigger stage to bring his message about helping the poor to the world. It wasn't about the campaign or he would have stayed. It was about the message.

And Hillary supporters are so self centered, all about "me", that they don't comprehend someone doing something for OTHERS.

[roguevalley]

89. if she had gone it would not have happened like this

That is the difference between us and you

[Godhumor]

40. I've said many times I don't care what Bernie does with his time

But thanks for the broad brush smear on both the candidate and the many people who choose to support her.

[FarPoint]

41. You are entitled to your opinion.

This is Primary Season....

[TDale313]

44. Doesn't mean people are required to be assholes

Or lie about the other candidate. That goes for whoever we happen to support.

[roguevalley]

91. then police your ranks

[TDale313]

103. Yeah, goes for both sides.

I'm not responsible for every Bernie supporter but I do call out crap when I see it. Hillary supporters don't even seem to acknowledge they have people behaving badly on their side too.

[QC]

45. In fairness, it has little to do with the candidates.

I've been here since not long after the joint opened in 2001, and I can tell you that the really deranged primary warriors are almost without exception the same people.

They're just bullies and stalkers anyway, and primary season on DU gives them a chance to indulge that with no repercussions. As Ralphie Wiggum says of recess, "That's where I'm a Viking!"

In fact, I can think of several who disappear from this place for years at a time and show up when there is a contested primary. They don't care to engage in any discussion of things like issues,midterm elections, important events, or whatever, but give them a chance to be shitty to people and they come running like hungry dogs in an Alpo commercial.

[Raster]

79. Ding! Winnah!

And then there are the convenient primary period "amnesties"...

[QC]

88. They are awfully convenient, aren't they?

I honestly think that what changed DU for good, broke it, really, was the decision to throw out the rules and let 'er rip during the 2007-08 primary. It set an ugly new tone for this place and caused division that never healed.

But hey, you can't very well catapult the propaganda if the propagandists keep getting kicked out, now can you?

[2banon]

125. "They come running like hungry dogs in an Alpo commercial"

Quote of the day!

[QC]

142. Thanks! n/t

[KittyWampus]

49. I'm ashamed someone running for Democratic nomination would LIE consistently like Sanders

and use the Pope as a prop.

[hueymahl]

58. More pathetic lies from camp Hillary

Not even going to bother to link to the truth because this poster clearly doesn't care. The truth is all over this OP and a dozen other posts.

[Kentonio]

66. Lie? Every time Bernie has been accused of lying its been something extremely ambiguous.

Hillary on the other hand has openly and provably lied time after time after time after time. When are you going to accept reality and own that? Since when did Democrats start acting like Republicans and just ignore barefaced lies? We have endless Youtube videos of her making completely contradictory statements, yet none of you seem to have the slightest problem with this. We even have people who openly called her a liar in 2008 now wholeheartedly supporting her.

Oh and David Brock.. anyone with that weasel working on their campaign who dares to throw accusations of lying is reaching universe destroying levels of irony.

[KittyWampus]

108. Ambiguous? I posted footage/transcripts of Sanders lying.

[Kentonio]

121. Link please.

[LaurenG]

165. Yes please show us a link

I'd really hate to think there was a wampus of a story being told here.

[workinclasszero]

68. No doubt

Camp Pinocchio is really on a roll lately.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

136. I CHALLENGE YOU TO DOCUMENT THE ALLEGED LIES. YOU ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.

I'm calling out your dishonesty right now. You're from the camp known for serial lying. A big part of that body of lies is accusations about Sanders' honesty. But you people have NEVER been able to show a Sanders lie. We can document lots of your candidate's filthy lies, and from lots of sources. YOU CAN DO NO SUCH THING.


PUT UP, OR SHUT UP.

[workinclasszero]

51. I'm ashamed for the many Bernie fans

That applaud their candidates horribly divisive and anti-democratic "Deep South" comments.

[hueymahl]

62. I'm ashamed of the constant barrage of lies coming from Camp Hllary

Deeply, deeply ashamed. You should be too.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

76. Camp Hillary has no shame... but then look at their fearless leader.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[roguevalley]

93. I'm pissed that every state bernie wins is

Called too white and dismissed out of hand. Racism much? Even Hawaii.

[tomm2thumbs]

167. I dunno, even that sounds nice compared to this:

[Dem2]

65. I'll be hiding this thread as I have the previous couple of hundred on this stupid topic

I will say that there were a few threads that work somewhat ridiculous in their criticism.

I wouldn't broad brush all supporters of either candidate based on a few threads from one or the other of the candidates supporters though.

When you do that you become no better than the people you are criticizing

[kstewart33]

70. Oh, stop.

Hillary's leadership is just fine. We're doing just fine. So can the sanctimony and let's see how all this turns out.

[roguevalley]

96. she hired a criminal lawyer. her leadership is crap

Or all her followers would tout that instead of this stuff

[kstewart33]

144. Stop.

All of this Hillary hate does nothing for our chances of beating Trump or Cruz in the fall. Both BS and HC supporters should keep their eye on the prize.

[hack89]

74. How can I go on without your love and approval?

my life will crumble without the validation of anonymous political hacks

[workinclasszero]

77. hahahahahahahaha

[aikoaiko]

75. There is a large, dispicable contingent of HRC supporters

They were chill when HRC's lead was 60 points nationally, but now they are hysterical with fear and loathing.

[Raster]

84. There were some that were chill...

...and then there was a core "swarm" that made it their mission to be as abusive and toxic as possible... literally. Even going so far as to having their own off-site "clubhouse" where they openly discussed how vile they would be and to whom they would focus their maltreatment, even plotting their "tag-team" efforts.

[workinclasszero]

99. Oh you must mean Jackpine Radicals site

Yeah it sucks big time.

[Raster]

126. No, I don't.

[lumberjack_jeff]

114. #Je Suis Sid n/t

[amborin]

119. shameful behavior; even worse: defending Tom Watson and David Brock

[Marr]

120. I don't think HRC brings it out in them, she just attracts people who already are that way.

The people you refer to have been this site's resident authority-loving, wannabe-bullies for years now. They're the ones who defended domestic spying, the dumping of the so-called Public Option... name the issue, they've been on the conservative side of it on DU.

[Onlooker]

122. You don't have to be a Hillary supporter to dislike the Vatican

The Catholic church has an ongoing history of sexism, homophobia, covering up pedophilia, etc. When Pope Francis dies, it's more than likely that the Church will go back to being right wing.

What bothers me is that Bernie supporters are automatically pandering to the Catholic Church because Bernie went there. This is not a great moment in Bernie's campaign. If Ted Cruz went to a Vatican conference on abortion, maybe you'd understand what the issue is.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

123. It's how they do everything. There's a subset of extremely dishonest people here...just a few.

They're some of the more dishonorable people you'll ever encounter, from any political background. They're vicious, they're poison, and incidentally, they're killing this website--check Alexa.

You'll know these people when you find someone who will not reason with you under any circumstance, and they will not admit a wrong if they're shown 6 links to prove it. These are the people you'll find wasting time with inconsequential garbage, because it's the coin of their pathetic realm. They're liars, and they'll screw you every chance they get.

But if Clinton gets the nomination, they're going to be demanding your support. Let that one sink in for a minute.

[artyteacher]

137. ashamed for pointing out how shameful ...

Bernie's political ploy was? I'm much more ashamed of Bernie's tactics. Even my Mom who hates politics was saying he did it only to pander to Catholics.

[EndElectoral]

150. To me the Vatican thing was the lowest moment of the campaign for Hillary supporters.

It was actually embarassing. Their best approach to it was probably just to ignore it. Instead, they looked petty and ridiculous over Sanders attending a conference to speak about Income Inequality and may or may not get a chance to meet the Pope.

[Politicalboi]

151. Me too

I thought they were smarter. Oh well. They don't even get posts so they hide them.

[ViseGrip]

153. They have also hurt her campaign in many ways.

[Gothmog]

154. Sanders' supporters are lashing out, but here's how they might be hurting his campaign

And yet it is the Sanders supporters who are getting the accurate press coverage http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-bernie-sanders-supporters-20160415-story.html

Shawn Bagley thought he knew what he was getting into when he was elected to become one of California’s so-called superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention, and energetic debate with other activists was part of it.

What Bagley had not anticipated was being jolted out of bed by a 2 a.m. phone call from an angry Bernie Sanders supporter. The caller accused Bagley, a retired produce broker from Salinas, of stealing democracy from the citizenry.

“Why is Bernie Sanders letting these people loose on us?” said Bagley, a Hillary Clinton backer who says he was branded corrupt, immoral and thickheaded over the course of some 200 social media posts and phone calls from Sanders fans. “He lost my vote at 2 a.m.”

Sanders supporters are known to be a spirited bunch. But as their frustration mounts over their candidate’s failure to significantly cut into Clinton’s lead, no small number of them are lashing out in ways that are not particularly helpful to his campaign.

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There is the activist in Chicago who unleashed a movement to “harass” superdelegates backing Clinton, with an online “hit list” complete with delegate phone numbers and some home addresses. There are the online trolls who have come to be known as "Bernie bros," who attack journalists, politicians and fellow voters they perceive to be pro-Clinton with misogynistic, often vulgar attacks. There are the campaign surrogates -- some of them high-profile -- who use language the campaign finds itself having to walk back.

This is a great article with good facts

[Jitter65]

159. I think you missed the part the way the BS supporters treated the visit.. nt