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If one passes millions of dollars to down ticket members of one's own party (Original Post) RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 OP
The operative word in your post is 'politics.' wyldwolf Apr 2016 #1
No, if one doesn't like politics, one can participate in change. RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #8
... but only by being active in politics. Hey - name ONE politician... wyldwolf Apr 2016 #11
Are you implying nothing has changed politically in 250 years? RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #13
Now that you've mentioned it, no, not much has changed in 250 years... wyldwolf Apr 2016 #15
Yeesh. RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #19
Hey, the 'majority' like payola system.... daleanime Apr 2016 #2
Well, how else are you supposed to by superdelegates? Loudestlib Apr 2016 #3
I don't know how you "by" superdelegates. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #16
With a u Loudestlib Apr 2016 #20
Perfect! COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #21
If I raise $1,000,000, 000 .00 for my party am I doing a bad thing? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #4
Depends on how we got the money and from who the money comes from All in it together Apr 2016 #7
When people give money to me I do with it what I want. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #10
Hillary is spreading millions in corporate cash with which to corrupt & buy Democratic politicians Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #5
Please provide some links proving that she is COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #17
I find it even nearer to the problem when the WAY in which you 'pass millions of dollars downticket' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #6
She is USING downticket candidates to raise money for HERSELF. mhatrw Apr 2016 #9
So there is already reciprocity and mutual benefit? RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #22
Historically, Royalty gifts Retainers/Servants. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #12
Yes, it is the way the Party game is played and I think it should be done away with BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #14
Of course not. Money only corrupts if the person is Republican, or Bernie Sanders LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #18

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
1. The operative word in your post is 'politics.'
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:18 AM
Apr 2016

If one doesn't like politics, one doesn't need to be active in politics.

And, no, I have no issue with politicians raising money for members of HER own party.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
8. No, if one doesn't like politics, one can participate in change.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

One can participate and dislike it and maintain the status quo. So many options.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
11. ... but only by being active in politics. Hey - name ONE politician...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:39 AM
Apr 2016

... who didn't become part of the status quo once elected.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
13. Are you implying nothing has changed politically in 250 years?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

Forgive me for dodging your question, though I don't think it makes your point. I think we could name names and pick apart records all day if we wanted to.

I hope all is well for you. Good luck!

All in it together

(275 posts)
7. Depends on how we got the money and from who the money comes from
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

Whether it's a good thing for the party. When it comes from powerful big corporations and too big to fail banks and the pharmaceutical industry, etc. then I wonder how much influence they've bought. That used to be illegal and should still be if we want a democracy of the people.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
5. Hillary is spreading millions in corporate cash with which to corrupt & buy Democratic politicians
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

& their superdelegate votes. Last I knew, buying votes is a fine example of corruption... as is money laundering (See DNC, 33 State Democratic Committees & the Hillary Victory Fund).

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. I find it even nearer to the problem when the WAY in which you 'pass millions of dollars downticket'
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

is simply by setting up a method to pass through contributions to yourself that would otherwise be disallowed, but do so in a way that allows some of the money to be funnelled downticket as a way to hide the fact that the real goal is getting more money for yourself.

When your 'charitable activities' are simply a way to cover your own sleazy behaviour, I'm not really impressed.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
9. She is USING downticket candidates to raise money for HERSELF.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

We shall see if she ever shares any of this money with anybody else. She has not to date.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
22. So there is already reciprocity and mutual benefit?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

At this point, I figured it was just lining up ducks for upcoming favors.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
12. Historically, Royalty gifts Retainers/Servants.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:48 AM
Apr 2016

And in business nowadays, "he who has the gold makes the rules".

So yes, I have a problem with it - the system is not designed to encourage competence because it is instead designed to encourage lotal retainers who can be bought for a reasonable fee.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
14. Yes, it is the way the Party game is played and I think it should be done away with
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

I have made several donations to Bernie and would be offended if he decided to start passing some of his campaign money to other candidates. If he wants to encourage his supporters to also give to other candidates who share many of his principles, as he did recently with Lucy Flores, I am fine with that.

This corrupt system of passing money around and bartering for coveted committee assignments and other political favors (and the implicit and/or explicit threats to those who don't fall in line) is why 99% of elected Democrats have endorsed Hillary Clinton. See the recent tasteless skit between Hillary and de Blasio, which was about him being scolded for not endorsing Hillary fast enough. A real inside political joke, even without the racist punchline. Isn't that Hillarious?

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
18. Of course not. Money only corrupts if the person is Republican, or Bernie Sanders
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary and all her superdelegates are pure as the driven snow and completely incorruptible, they would never be swayed by filthy lucre.

(or so I gather from her supporters)

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