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Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:06 AM Apr 2016

Liberals for Hillary: There is Nothing Stranger

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/15/liberals-for-hillary-there-is-nothing-stranger/

April 15, 2016

Liberals for Hillary: There is Nothing Stranger

by Andrew Levine

Never mind that no one seems able to come up with examples of anything progressive or even worthwhile that Hillary has ever accomplished. As First Lady, she set the cause of health care reform back a generation, laying the groundwork for all that is wrong with Obamacare; as a Senator, she did nothing noteworthy at all; and, worst of all, as Secretary of State, all she has been good for is facilitating world-endangering disasters.

Libya is at the top of the list, but at least some of the blame for Syria and for destabilizing adjacent areas, including Turkey and Iraq, is on her.

Therefore so is some of the blame for several ongoing civil wars, including the one in Yemen.

Her mismanagement of events surrounding the Arab Spring helped fuel the rise of the Islamic State. The resulting refugee and humanitarian crises afflicting the entire region are partly on her too. So is the strain on the European Union that has followed from it.

And, as if all that weren’t bad enough, she and her minions deserve blame too for unfolding crises in areas around Russia’s borders – most notably in Ukraine. The mess she helped make there is now coming back to haunt her.

Her support for the coup d’état in Honduras in 2009 has come back to haunt her as well.

The lesson is clear as can be: put Hillary on the scene and all hell breaks loose.
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Liberals for Hillary: There is Nothing Stranger (Original Post) Bread and Circus Apr 2016 OP
Yes, there would be something stranger.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #1
We begin with a false dilemma: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2
Well, then come up with examples of what she's accomplished and dispell the myth. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #3
Oh gee. That is so hard. If only my browser had a search engine. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #8
Doesn't fit the BS narrative, sorry workinclasszero Apr 2016 #13
Any informed person that's backing Hillary because of her positions over Bernie is not a liberal. Broward Apr 2016 #4
Accurate CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #9
Undoubtedly, most of them would have been for that war with a D at the helm. Broward Apr 2016 #11
Apparently, a lot of 'liberals' are myopic... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #5
Counterpunch - what more need be said? brooklynite Apr 2016 #6
There's a lot of great articles there. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #7
It's an oxymoron pinebox Apr 2016 #10
I'm with you in spirit TheFarseer Apr 2016 #12
Neocons and the Ukraine Coup PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #14
and all this talk is hypothetical: Sanders is the strongest candidate, is 10-15 MisterP Apr 2016 #15
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
1. Yes, there would be something stranger....
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:08 AM
Apr 2016

Military personnel for Hillary.

"Let's vote for someone who will start a war and send us in poorly equipped.'

What difference does it make????

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. We begin with a false dilemma:
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:08 AM
Apr 2016
Never mind that no one seems able to come up with examples of anything progressive or even worthwhile that Hillary has ever accomplished.

Yes, please! Never mind that the first sentence of your piece is pure bullshit.

I quit reading there.
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
8. Oh gee. That is so hard. If only my browser had a search engine.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016
  • Children’s Health Insurance Program.
  • Expansion of Family Medical Leave Act to include families of wounded soldiers
  • Appointed to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor.
  • Co-founded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families
  • Staff attorney for Children's Defense Fund
  • Former Director of the Arkansas Legal Aid Clinic.
  • First female chair of the Legal Services Corporation
  • Former First Lady of Arkansas.
  • Chair of the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession
  • created Arkansas's Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth
  • led a task force that reformed Arkansas's education system
  • Promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses
  • Successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health
  • Worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War (now recognized as Gulf War Syndrome)
  • Helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice
  • Initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act
  • Helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.
  • Leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.
  • In the aftermath of September 11th, she worked closely with her senior Senate counterpart from New York, Sen. Charles Schumer, on securing $21.4 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.
  • Middle East ceasefire. In November 2012, Secretary of State Clinton brokered a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas.


Bullshit certified and sealed for disposal.

Have a great day!
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. Doesn't fit the BS narrative, sorry
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

You should see what the OP's source says about Bernie Sanders! They hate him too! LOL

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
9. Accurate
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016
Add to this: Anyone who appears to be informed and backs Hillary Clinton, over Bernie Sanders, may have been “upset” with the war in Iraq—but that is only due to the fact that the president of the United States at that time had a R, rather than a D, after his name.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
11. Undoubtedly, most of them would have been for that war with a D at the helm.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

The human mind is a curious thing.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
5. Apparently, a lot of 'liberals' are myopic...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:14 AM
Apr 2016

and can't see that there's more than one way to be left-of-center. The single worst thing that this campaign has done is to somehow conflate Bernie with the entirely of liberalism. He is liberal, as is Hillary, just in different ways. The fact that so many people are getting blinded to the fact that not every liberal will agree on how to fix problems is sad.

Articles like this, which feed the false narrative that there's only one way to be liberal, are why comparisons to the Tea Party keep getting brought up.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
14. Neocons and the Ukraine Coup
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup/

Exclusive: American neocons helped destabilize Ukraine and engineer the overthrow of its elected government, a “regime change” on Russia’s western border. But the coup and the neo-Nazi militias at the forefront also reveal divisions within the Obama administration, reports Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry

More than five years into his presidency, Barack Obama has failed to take full control over his foreign policy, allowing a bureaucracy shaped by long years of Republican control and spurred on by a neocon-dominated U.S. news media to frustrate many of his efforts to redirect America’s approach to the world in a more peaceful direction.

But Obama deserves a big dose of the blame for this predicament because he did little to neutralize the government holdovers and indeed played into their hands with his initial appointments to head the State and Defense departments, Hillary Clinton, a neocon-leaning Democrat, and Robert Gates, a Republican cold warrior, respectively.

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Obama’s Strategy

As President, Obama has sought a more cooperative relationship with Russia’s Putin and, generally, a less belligerent approach toward adversarial countries. Obama has been supported by an inner circle at the White House with analytical assistance from some elements of the U.S. intelligence community.

But the neocon momentum at the State Department and from other parts of the U.S. government has continued in the direction set by George W. Bush’s neocon administration and by neocon-lite Democrats who surrounded Secretary of State Clinton during Obama’s first term.

more ...

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
15. and all this talk is hypothetical: Sanders is the strongest candidate, is 10-15
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

points ahead of Clinton against the Pubs, and doesn't have a 36% approval rating among DEMOCRATS

she's a "frontrunner" only out of dead inertia and DNC stringpulling, and it's almost surreal to hear any analysis starting off from her being the stronger candidate because she has more "support"

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