2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt all comes down to this: If you want real change, vote Bernie. You won't get it from Hillary.
I think the only real argument I've seen made for Hillary is that she can beat Donald Trump, whereas Bernie might get trashed by the GOP slime machine. Personally, I disagree, but I can respect that opinion as a possibility. They're going with Hillary because they think she's the "safer" choice. But what I don't like about it is that it's playing not to lose. With Hillary, we are sure to get more of the same - and probably a lot less - than what we got with Obama.
Is it too risky to ask for more? Is it really too risky to go with Bernie? 22 states out of the 37 that have already voted don't think so. The general election polls don't think so. And it's not like the country doesn't know who Bernie is anymore. The country knows him, and independents love him!
So let's not be afraid of Donald Trump and the Repugs, and let's vote for the person we really want to be our nominee.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)It's looking more likely that Hillary will win the nomination.
If she goes on to win then it really come down to more Democrats
wanted Hillary.
She's very popular with most of the different factions within the party.
She's very popular with likely Democratic voters.
Whatever Democrats will get with Hillary seems to be what they want.
They're rejecting Bernie.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)that's roughly 16% of the electorate. i'm not sure that's going to win the WH
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)before he can run in the GE.
So far the majority of Democratic primary voters prefer Hillary.
if democrats actually want to win the WH and are truly concerned about the supreme court, then the might want to consider how independents are lining up to vote for Bernie when the can. They also might want to look at how the electorate as a whole clearly prefers Bernie to Hillary and that he does better than she does at all comers.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)But so far the various factions of the Democratic party, older voters, women, AA, and Hispanics
prefer Hillary.
They seem to think she can win and will be a good president.
Bernie hasn't managed to convince them of that.
I think Democratic primary voters have a pretty good idea of what their choices are
and they're choosing Hillary.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)more and more are choosing Bernie. Is there enough time left to finish the job now that he is actually getting the attention on the teevee that he was most clearly denied early on? we will know soon enough.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
JudyM
(29,248 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)However I think more of the same is much better than we'd have with trump or Cruz. I've been happy with Pres. Obama. He isn't as liberal as I am and has made some choices I would not make (i.e. TPP) but he is far, far better than GWB was and I don't want to go back there again. I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I will definitely and absolutely vote for Hillary in the general if she gets the nomination. (I will also obviously vote for Bernie in the general if he gets it.)
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)They're status quo people who want to see a few crumbs thrown to the masses so they can pretend they care about others and feel good about themselves. They think life is pretty much a meritocracy where people mostly get what they deserve.