It was a foregone conclusion rabid Hilfans would shit the bed with this Vatican thing

[whatchamacallit]

For a week they've been vociferously projecting their fantasies as reality. I've noticed it's kinda their thing.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

1. Well, you're right. But this needn't have happened in a sane world.

[In_The_Wind]

2. +1

[artyteacher]

3. were just laugging at his silly political ploy and how....

Some people don't see through it.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

5. No. That's demonstrably not what you were doing. You can't revise history so soon

with all the words still sitting right here in these pages.

[artislife]

21. Two men working inside the machine trying to change the machine.

PS Glad I didn't learn art from you.

[artyteacher]

34. most democrats are doing that including Hillary. eom

[artislife]

35. But what is she trying to change the machine into?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. Not so fast. Hilly went to see the head of her faith too.

So there, buck-o!

[Octafish]

11. Branded

Scorch of the one who ran...

[Art_from_Ark]

14. They really should gold plate that thing

to make it more biblical.

[Octafish]

33. Absolutely!

Unlimited devotion, theirs.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. HA!

[artislife]

24. But Christian Fundies are A-OK. nt

[haikugal]

6. They're nothing if not predictable. LOL

[JTFrog]

7. If this was a Clinton move, berners would be lambasting the homophobic, misogynistic,

pedophile protecting establishment they are now fawning over.

Pretty sure we can count on anyone supporting Clinton to be swiftly thrown under the nearest bus while those who endorse Sanders get put upon pedestals.

I have zero respect for the church I left when I became an adult. For really good reasons.

[CorkySt.Clair]

9. No doubt about it

[NWCorona]

15. But instead it's team Hillary doing the lambasting.

[JTFrog]

28. Rightly so.

Like I said, I left the church when I became an adult for very good reason.

I wouldn't like Hillary making this move. It always makes my stomach turn when any politician brings their religion into politics. Be they Democrats, republicans, greens, independents etc. The right wingers have built their entire party around religion and using religion to curb the freedoms of others.

Not an organization I can embrace in any way. However, it wouldn't stop me from voting for Bernie. But I have posts from ten years ago where I am screaming to keep religion out of my politics. This isn't a new stance nor do I think a hypocritical one for me.

[NWCorona]

29. And I have zero problems with that.

[passiveporcupine]

39. Respecting the catholic church

something I've never done, and respecting Pope Francis as a really good man who is not the norm for the Vatican, are two totally different things.

I don't put Pope Francis or Sanders on a pedestal, but I do respect both of them for the issues they are fighting for (not all of the Popes issues, but those that are in sync with Sanders' issues).

Do you really think the Catholic church will or even can change overnight because of one radical Pope? They have been against social progress for too long, and it's entrenched in the way they interpret the Bible. The only way they will probably change on major issues that go against their interpretation of the Bible, is after years of radical Popes pushing for change and many catholics leaving the church because society is so far beyond it...that is exactly why Pope francis is making small gestures like accepting gays in the church (not accepting that their lifestyle is OK). This Pope is pushing tiny changes socially (which is far better than previous Popes), but I give him credit for pushing major changes economically, and trying to change our outlook on profit/greed/money and helping the poor.

Also, this has nothing to do with religion on Bernie's part. If he was a catholic, I'd say maybe you had something there. He is doing this for the same reason he's running for President. Because of the issues addressed at the conference, and promoted by the Pope.

[Buzz Clik]

8. Good call. It's been going on for over a week. "Forgone"?

[whatchamacallit]

10. Hmm... what's worse

omitting a letter or being perpetually wrong?

[Buzz Clik]

12. I wasn't knocking your spelling. Your conclusion wasn't foregone, it was a retrospective.

[whatchamacallit]

32. Nope, I knew when I woke up this morning I'd learn of the visit with the pope.

[m-lekktor]

13. They've become completely undone! It's been entertaining. lol. nt

[beam me up scottie]

16. Isn't it? They dialed it up to 11 today.

[artislife]

22. My priest says they are all going to Hell

but I ask when we will get out of this purgatory.


*wink to us Catholics and recovering Catholics.

[Seeinghope]

30. Seriously! OBSESSION! I say Get Over It! Bernie Sanders wasn't invited to speak at Goldman Sachs!

You don't see the Bernie Sanders people complaining and making stupid remarks about why. Bernie Sanders wasn't invited or how Hillary Clinton had to bribe Goldman Sachs to be able to give them a speech!

Pope Francis can't afford Clinton's expensive dinners Or donations to their foundation. He knows all about their politics.

Hey I haven't been a practicing Catholic for years but I do like Pope Francis and I am delighted that Bernie Sanders was recognized by him, if even in the smallest way, because it shows that Pope Francis has noticed who Bernie Sanders is and what Bernie Sanders stands for.

[artislife]

31. Two men working inside the machine trying to change the machine.

That is my thought.

And I agree with you on the rest of your post. It is interesting to see how H supporters have sunk in my list of people I can get along with.

I am finding gun toting libertarians more inviting to spend time with. At least with them, they actually have a moral code that they adhere to.

[pa28]

17. What a bunch of obsessive plonkers.

It's been funny to watch.

[Aerows]

18. All I have to say is ...

[artislife]

23. Hee! Very witty!

[CentralCoaster]

19. Let's Review: Speaking at Vatican? √ Meeting with Pope? √ Endorsement? √√√

IMNSHO, if you specifically, among all of the candidates, are selected and invited to speak at this important conference....

By the Vatican and, by extension, the Pope...

THAT is as close to an endorsement as any candidate could ever get.

Way to Go Bernie!

[pinebox]

20. Didn't you hear?

[Aerows]

25. That is great!

Even better than mine!

[still_one]

26. True, but at least they are spamming the Pope's facebook page or website with

anti-Pope or Vatican rants

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. It is truly a sight to behold!

[ucrdem]

37. Cynical pol outdoes himself, film at 11.

Er, no pics, make that tweet 24/7.

[Matt_R]

38. K&R

[lumberjack_jeff]

40. It's a particularly virulent strain of reality-resistant dogma. n/t