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Honestly, how likely is it just anybody can loiter in the papal residence and "ambush" the pope? (Original Post) whatchamacallit Apr 2016 OP
I love the words they come up with, They must get their talking points from Frank Luntz:) litlbilly Apr 2016 #1
nah, it is from his cousin, David Brock. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #3
Let them fantacize, it helps heal the butthurt. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #2
They're delusional. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #4
The Pope was obviously gracious enough Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #5
The pope, as one of the most protected humans on the planet, would not have to meet Bernie whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #7
That's what I said, read again Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #8
Drive by is a stupid characterization whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #9
The Pope is a gracious person Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #13
“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out" fried eggs Apr 2016 #18
Pope doesn't live in the residence... Agschmid Apr 2016 #6
I think he might DrDan Apr 2016 #37
how likely is it that the Pope seeks a meeting with someone and then does not share a single word DrDan Apr 2016 #10
Formality or not, the pope did it of his own accord whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #11
okee dokee then - he just wanted to physically be in his presence DrDan Apr 2016 #12
My understanding is Sanders went to participate in the conference and was hoping to meet the pope whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #14
that we agree on DrDan Apr 2016 #16
not.fucking.likely. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #15
Here's how it happened: fried eggs Apr 2016 #17
There is no way the pope's handlers would allow him to be put in an unavoidable situtation whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #20
They didn't realize how far Sanders would go to try to get a photo op. fried eggs Apr 2016 #22
A photo op with no photo???? karynnj Apr 2016 #30
"when I came down he introduced himself"... sounds like the popes handlers didn't know Sanders uponit7771 Apr 2016 #24
"He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me." Avalux Apr 2016 #21
Everyone, including those of us here in America, knew the pope had an early flight to Greece fried eggs Apr 2016 #23
Exactly. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #31
You are purposefully ingnoring the Pope's words. Are you calling him a liar? n/t Avalux Apr 2016 #32
The popes schedule was known... there was no "meeting" Sanders misrepresented the encounter uponit7771 Apr 2016 #25
What's the lie? panader0 Apr 2016 #28
I met with a religous leader once... Matt_R Apr 2016 #35
These people must think the Swiss Guards - who are an Army, not just police - are easy pickings. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #19
Damn! Those guys look .... comical. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27
The butthurt has infected their brains,... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #29
Judging by recent occurrences: 100% likely. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #26
Here's the real story Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #33
How likely is it that just anybody can loiter in the polls Downwinder Apr 2016 #34
Who cares? Stop wasting your time on their BS nonsense. There are many interesting pdsimdars Apr 2016 #36
Not worth arguing with them about it Marrah_G Apr 2016 #38

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
5. The Pope was obviously gracious enough
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

to accomodate the "drive by."

This was a craven move on the part of the campaign to save face for this whopper:

"You're meeting with the Pope?"

"Yup." On his way out the door at 4am...

C'mon folks, it is what it is.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
7. The pope, as one of the most protected humans on the planet, would not have to meet Bernie
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

if he was not amenable. Give up the unhingery.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
8. That's what I said, read again
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

"The Pope was obviously gracious enough to accomodate the drive by."

What's your point?

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
9. Drive by is a stupid characterization
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

Most people don't make a conscious choice to participate in a "drive by". Sorry for your butthurt.

fried eggs

(910 posts)
18. “This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out"
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

Setting aside the creep factor, why did Sanders run to the US media and say he had a "meeting" with the pope. How is that not a flat out lie?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
37. I think he might
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

". . . helped facilitate an audience for Sanders with the Pope at the Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse where Francis keeps his residence."

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-meets-pope

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
14. My understanding is Sanders went to participate in the conference and was hoping to meet the pope
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

He did both.

fried eggs

(910 posts)
17. Here's how it happened:
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016
On the Vermont senator, Francis said he greeted Sanders on Saturday morning as he was leaving the Santa Marta, the hotel within Vatican grounds where the pope lives.

Sanders was staying at the same residence, because that’s where all participants in the Vatican conference he attended on Friday were spending the night. The only exceptions were Presidents Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of Ecuador, who stayed at their country’s embassy in Rome.

“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.”

“When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more,” the pope added. “It’s common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.


“If someone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics,” he said, “I recommend that they find a psychiatrist.”

link: http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/


This morning, Bernie Sanders told reporters that he had a meeting with the pope, which forced the pope to respond with the facts when he was asked about it. Bernie made it political. He loitered and waited for the pope to exit the hotel they were both in, and introduced himself. Then he ran and told US Media that he had a meeting with the pope. He's a liar.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
20. There is no way the pope's handlers would allow him to be put in an unavoidable situtation
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders was allowed to be in a location where he could encounter the pope, and the pope was made aware of this fact. The pope made a choice to greet him.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
30. A photo op with no photo????
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:01 PM
Apr 2016

Clearly he could have had Jane or someone else get a photo or even video the whole thing. He didn't.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
24. "when I came down he introduced himself"... sounds like the popes handlers didn't know Sanders
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

... was there waiting for him at 4am

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
21. "He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me."
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

This tells me that Bernie was informed when the Pope would be leaving so they could meet.

The Pope thanks Bernie for greeting him.

Yet, this gets all twisted up as if Bernie pushed himself on the Pope.

fried eggs

(910 posts)
23. Everyone, including those of us here in America, knew the pope had an early flight to Greece
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

It doesn't take rocket science or an invite to know what time the pope would have to leave to get there on time. The pope went out of his way to avoid direct contact with Sanders, but Sanders stalked the exit to force an encounter.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
25. The popes schedule was known... there was no "meeting" Sanders misrepresented the encounter
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

... with the pope

Matt_R

(456 posts)
35. I met with a religous leader once...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:29 PM
Apr 2016

we greeted each other and shook hands. Its called a MEET and GREET.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
36. Who cares? Stop wasting your time on their BS nonsense. There are many interesting
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

`threads about actual issues.
Move on.

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