2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it fair to say Hillary is the austerity candidate?
She's running on pragmatism. Why is it that workers can't have anything and only the 0.1% richest can?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)That would be the status quo candidate.
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)--well, almost always
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Just the rest of us.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Neither of the Democratic candidates is proposing a program of austerity. Both offer plans to expand public spending in various ways. Bernie's proposals are, by far, the more ambitious.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)policy positions. From all Americans.
dawg
(10,624 posts)If you expect the sort of changes Bernie proposes to come easy, you've got another thing coming. I wish things weren't that way, but they are.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)with that nonsense. good luck.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Seriously?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)austerity loses elections.
Austerity will be forced on us by the bond market eventually and it won't be pretty.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)People will have to be ready for that somehow.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I believe her.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)And the lowly 99% will be told Tough Choices need to be made, we can't afford "entitlements", add another year or two to the minimum SS retirement age and other such fuckery. At the same time, we need to "get things done" in Syria, Libya, Iran, get that TPP passed, frackil baby frack.......ectera.
Baby has plans. Lots and lots of plans.
Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)She is, at her core, a DLC corporatist. Don't let's get started on her connections to jeebus-an-an-excuse-to-be-an-asshole group "The Family".
If we look closely at the history of Clintons relationship with three pieces of legislation affecting LGBT rightsReligious Freedom, Dont Ask, Dont Tell (DADT), and the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), we see three wildly different patterns. First off, there are major differences between the Indiana law Pence signed and other RFRAs, going back to the federal RFRA that Clinton signed in 1993. As author Garrett Epps put it, in the Atlantic, 1) businesses can use it against 2) civil-rights suits brought by individuals.
The real problem, so far as Hillary Clinton is concerned, is her earlier support for a conceptually related bill, the Workplace Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which the ACLU strongly opposed as a poorly drafted bill that would open the floodgates to all manner of discriminatory behavior. The potential troubles were well-known and clearly articulated. Nevertheless, Clinton supported it in tandem with religious conservative GOP Sens. Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum. Her strange alliances with religious conservatives in the Senate was explored in Jeff Sharlets fascinating book The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power. Well return to that book later.
soo much more here-
https://www.salon.com/2015/04/25/progressives_cant_trust_hillary_clinton_on_cultural_and_economic_issues_the_problems_are_stark_and_decades_long/
Downwinder
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