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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. Abedin says she's often confused, and Obama said she was careless with her emails.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

That could be part of it, along with a healthy dose of greed.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. Oh yes, forgot about Sid.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:13 PM
Apr 2016

I honestly don't know how Obama can keep his mouth shut over that, the emails, and Hillary climbing on his back to prop herself up.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
5. Upton Sinclair told us
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

replace man with woman and salary with donations to the Clinton Foundation

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
6. She's not wrong
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

Her goals are not what your goals (or my goals) are. How much did she make from the Iraq war? How much do rich people donate to her because of her "decisions"?

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
8. She's Never Wrong, She Just Doesn't Get to the Right Answer till it's Popular.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:01 PM
Apr 2016

That's all really.

Perhaps back in the early 90s she took more risks, and was not a reactionary.

At the moment, her grasp on the issues and her positions are a direct reaction to what is the prevailing popular opinion.
Iraq War, went with the popular opinion, and then went again with the popular opinion denouncing it.
LGBT issues, went with the popular opinion at the time, and then when it was safe to support it, was finally a supporter.

She goes with what she thinks is the safe public position at the time, not what is right.
She will get to what is right, if it is the safe and popular opinion.

That does not make her inherently bad. In fact, it makes her effective in the front lines when doing the final negotiations of matters, but not during the initial stages where she needs to push for the best possible outcome.

She's good when the conclusion is already near, but not at the start of the fight, as she will argue for keeping the status quo.
The status quo is not working, and doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a better result is unfortunately a definition of insanity.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. You are on a roll with these one sentence dig at Hillary posts
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

Is this really what this board is all about?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. I don't spend much time in this forum, but you seem to live here.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

Do you think you're changing anyone's mind?

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
11. She is only wrong depending on your point of view
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:03 PM
Apr 2016

To 1%ers she has great judgement, she made Iraq, Libya, and wants Syria to be a great business opportunity

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
12. I think it is a problem of not looking far
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:12 PM
Apr 2016

enough ahead, and, possibly not realizing
that a coin has two sides.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
13. Too many handlers
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

She's like the big rock star with everybody wanting to get a piece of her. Everybody rushes to her to help to the point it distorts her interaction with the world.

Some want jobs, some just want power, they take care of her so she doesn't have to do anything normal people do, but it also cuts her off from anything not filtered by those people.

So it's hard to get the facts when you got so many people with agendas feeding you THEIR facts.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
15. When you serve Wall Street, Big Oil, Big Pharma and the Military Industrial Complex at the expense
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:02 PM
Apr 2016

of the American people, you tend to fuck up a lot. Unfortunately, it's no accident.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
16. Everything she's ever done has been right for her
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:07 PM
Apr 2016

We'd be doing her a big favor saying her judgement is off. She makes no mistakes. Her horrible, depraved decisions that cause harm to many innocents are exactly the things she set out to do. She is not stupid. She is depraved and amoral.

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