"She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.” The speeches would be disastrous for HRC

[amborin]

Last edited Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:40 PM - Edit history (3)

Release of Clinton’s Wall Street Speeches Could End Her Candidacy for President

The reason you and I will never see the transcripts of Hillary Clinton’s speeches to Wall Street fat-cats — and the reason she’s established a nonsensical condition for their release, that being an agreement by members of another party, involved in a separate primary, to do the same — is that if she were ever to release those transcripts, it could end her candidacy for president.

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Nor even that of the many neutral observers in the media who are deeply troubled by Clinton’s lack of transparency as to these well-compensated closed-door events — a lack of transparency that has actually been a hallmark of her career in politics.

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In fact, it appears they’d cause enough trauma that Clinton would rather publicly stonewall — to the point of being conspicuously, uncomfortably evasive — in public debate after public debate, to endure damning editorial after damning editorial, and to leave thousands and thousands of voters further doubting her honesty and integrity, all to ensure that no one outside Goldman Sachs, and certainly no voter who wasn’t privy to those closed-door speeches, ever hears a word of what she said in them.[/b........ Elizabeth Warren’s criticisms of Clinton — that during the housing crisis Clinton acted precisely like a politician who’d been bought off by Wall Street.

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1. Former Nebraska Governor and Senator Bob Kerrey (Clinton surrogate) : “Making the transcripts of the Goldman speeches public would have been devastating....[and] when the GOP gets done telling the Clinton Global Initiative fund-raising and expense story, Bernie supporters will wonder why he didn’t do the same....[As for] the email story, it’s not about emails. It is about [Hillary] wanting to avoid the reach of citizens using the Freedom of Information Act to find out what their government is doing, and then not telling the truth about why she did.”

2. Goldman Sachs Employee #1 (present at one of the speeches): “[The speech] was pretty glowing about [Goldman Sachs]. It’s so far from what she sounds like as a candidate now. It was like a ‘rah-rah’ speech. She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.”

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/release-of-clintons-wall-street-speeches_b_9698632.html

[yourpaljoey]

1. Trump shall recite the litany

soooooo much baggage

[MisterP]

5. I already can expect the script

"you say we're xenophobic warmongers? I'm an America Firster while you've repeatedly started wars even south of the border, bragged about deportations, and are the only one in this room who voted for the border wall! your economic team is packed with people who say retirement should be at 70, 75! you say the GOP hates retirees? I tell my sheep that they're all on the dole, that they should get more of it, and they love it! you say I hire illegals? your policies have sent millions and millions of jobs overseas! you say I'm a huckster? you've bled hardworking whites dry and come back to town twenty years later with the same globalist carny act! I'm racist? you cheerlead polices that jailed a third of (slur redacted) men and took credit for that as a fall in unemployment! I'm greedy? you're in the payday-lending party! it costs over twenty grand just to see you! I'm a bigmouth pandering to the audience? you literally reverse yourself within a week in front of different audiences, but we can't tell because your transcripts haven't been released for 243 days running! your whole campaign is based on voters not knowing a damn thing you've done!"

[yourpaljoey]

9. All grist for a bully

You have listed some things I had forgotten.
There are, of course, many many more.
A shredding shall ensue. He will give her a nickname that will stick -- and it won't be nice.

[SusanCalvin]

2. They need to be released now.

Someone on another thread pointed out that there's virtually no doubt that some Rs somewhere have cell phone videos. Think they won't release those? Granted, it (hopefully) won't make anyone vote for an R, but it sure could depress D turnout.

[gordianot]

3. We have been sold out by Republicans for decades.

The shock value comes when you realize those you thought you might be able to trust are no better. The line they are all the same is not true some hide it better than others.

[SusanCalvin]

4. Almost any D is better than almost any R.

But most are cut from the same corporate cloth.

[deathrind]

6. Good post.

Excellent post with facts to back up the theme.

There are many Democratic reason to support Bernie over Hillary (this is just one of them) but that is not going to change the minds of her supporters to switch their support. Her supporters are enamored with the idea of the history making aspect of the first woman to be elected President of the United States.

Facts, position on issues, past history of actions do not factor into the equation of her support. If it did Bernie would clearly be the nominee. I have nothing but respect for Hillary and all the accomplishments she has achieved in her life. But when one stands back and looks at the details of each candidate without the emotions from a purely Democratic position, where they stand on issues, votes recorded, past actions, it is clear that one singular aspect is the reason for why she will be the eventual nominee. As much as I would like to see Bernie as the nominee unless there is a monumental shift in delegates he simply will not have the number needed to secure it. It's not over yet but as of right now it does not look possible.

[passiveporcupine]

7. you know your post is over the copywrite limits here, right?

four paragraphs is allowed, I believe.

[amborin]

10. i edited it, thanks

[passiveporcupine]

11. Good, I didn't want to see the thread locked or disappeared because of that

[ShrimpPoboy]

8. My guess is that she'll release them during the general

Cheerleading banks and extolling the virtues of capitalism isn't something the Republicans are going to be able to disagree with and attack her on. It's also a lot less hurtful with independents/swing voters than with the base she's fighting for now.