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TygrBright

(20,761 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:46 PM Apr 2016

Why Hillary Clinton Should Be US President (If She Wins the Democratic Nomination)

Because anyone the GOP nominates will be so exponentially worse that we're in truly far deeper in major economic, social, environmental, military meltdown than we would be with President Hillary Clinton.

Does that mean I wouldn't rather have President Bernie Sanders?

No.

But I'd just as soon not make the election unwinnable for ANY Democrat with circular firing squad nonsense.

That is all.

tartly,
Bright

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Why Hillary Clinton Should Be US President (If She Wins the Democratic Nomination) (Original Post) TygrBright Apr 2016 OP
The GOP is nuts kevink077 Apr 2016 #1
How is she way better? Avalux Apr 2016 #4
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #8
If you can't tell the difference between Clinton and the Republican candidates Zorro Apr 2016 #10
Welcome to my ignore. Zira Apr 2016 #13
WELL SAID! Hillary Cannot Wait To Deploy A Carier Task Group! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #11
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #14
She belongs in prison for war crimes and profiting from weapons sales while SOS. Zira Apr 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Zorro Apr 2016 #21
Sorry. Not buying it. Hillary's speech to AIPAC was too neocon warhawk. peacebird Apr 2016 #2
Because Trump is a nightmare for the whole world. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #3
Being A "Democrat" Is IMMATERIAL! Look At The Person And Their Policy Positions.... CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #12
Trump is an asshole and a huckster, but its Cruz with nuclear codes that should really scare people. Kentonio Apr 2016 #20
It would be historical. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #5
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #6
+2 RiverLover Apr 2016 #7
Whoever goes into November with the (D) after their name should be the next President. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #15
OK, you sent my train of thought off onto a strange(er) siding... Fumesucker Apr 2016 #16
Yeah, I hear ya. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #18
If Hillary is elected Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #17
Be afraid, be very afraid, then vote Clinton. - Great slogan dude. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #19
I'd vote for her if it comes to that but I wouldn't be surprised or heartbroken if she loses because Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #22

kevink077

(365 posts)
1. The GOP is nuts
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton is way better than whoever the far right conservative religious police state nuts trot put.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
8. +1
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

agreed.

Foreign policy wise I consider her to be far worse. Domestic policy wise - far worse - she's bought out by all the wrong people, banksters, etc. and her connections to corruption are too vast. Social policy wise, oh hey we can keep abortion(I think - she backtracks on it and I don't trust her not to be electing people with republican values to the supreme court.) and social security would last. We would have the TPP and fracking and nobody stopping climate change. At least the Republicans are against the TPP so I could still have a job.

I don't consider Hillary better on too many things that count.

I won't vote for her.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
10. If you can't tell the difference between Clinton and the Republican candidates
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

you should take a hike over to your fellow confederates at FR and stop infesting this Democratic website.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
11. WELL SAID! Hillary Cannot Wait To Deploy A Carier Task Group!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:49 PM
Apr 2016
She will look for the first opportunity to diss or stand down Putin. You know someone who has never been punched in the mouth before is always too eager to try and punch someone else. The important difference in this case is that "throwing a punch" at this level just might end the planet and all of humanity.


SHE STILL WANT S THE NO FLY ZONE OVER SYRIA! HILLARY IS UNSAFE!

Response to Zira (Reply #9)

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. Sorry. Not buying it. Hillary's speech to AIPAC was too neocon warhawk.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

I will never vote for her. Let us hope that New York delivers big for Bernie, the only D running who handily beats every R running. The candidate with THE highest favorability ratings in the race D or R. And with the LOWEST unfav ratings of D or R

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
3. Because Trump is a nightmare for the whole world.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

Imagine him with the nuke codes.......

Hillary is a Democrat and FAR FAR better then anyone on the Republican side.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
12. Being A "Democrat" Is IMMATERIAL! Look At The Person And Their Policy Positions....
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:52 PM
Apr 2016
PRAY THAT BERNIE BEATS HER OR IS VERY CLOSE ON TUESDAY...
The Planet needs Bernie!
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
20. Trump is an asshole and a huckster, but its Cruz with nuclear codes that should really scare people.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:35 AM
Apr 2016

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. Whoever goes into November with the (D) after their name should be the next President.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:00 AM
Apr 2016

And honestly, the GOP right now is such a irredeemable train wreck of a clusterfuck, whoever it is should have a relatively easy time of it.

Unfortunately Hillary and her supporters seem determined to alienate everyone under 50, piss off everyone who isn't a midtown Manhattan condo owner who supports the drug war, and run a campaign which might have half worked 20 years ago but looks as dated as the macarena, now.

Still, she might win despite herself and her bad advisors.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. OK, you sent my train of thought off onto a strange(er) siding...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:09 AM
Apr 2016

GD-P is basically like the World Cup matches with dueling Vuvuzelas on either side.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
17. If Hillary is elected
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:13 AM
Apr 2016

Who am I Kidding. Nobody likes her but about 30 people on DU.
She will flame out like the Hindenburg and we will have 4 years of a republican rule.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
19. Be afraid, be very afraid, then vote Clinton. - Great slogan dude.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:04 AM
Apr 2016

If you are worried about the GOP, VOTE SANDERS: he polls better than Clinton in all match-ups.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
22. I'd vote for her if it comes to that but I wouldn't be surprised or heartbroken if she loses because
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

Republicans and independents would turn out to beat her at a higher rate than Democrats and independents would turn out to vote for a candidate who they distrust and dislike to beat another candidate who they also dislike.

Look at the size of Hillary's endorsement lead:


(This graph is a bit out of date and omits several recent Sanders endorsements, but it generally shows the size of Hillary's advantage).

Given this historically large advantage among the establishment wing of the party, a healthy candidate would have capitalized on this advantage to have locked this election away months ago.

Obviously, the race is not locked away. Here is a graph of all of the Ipsos/Reuters national polls:



Here is a graph of all of the McClatchy/Marist polling:



Here is a graph of the Bloomberg/Selzer polling:



This should be a huge concern. Hillary's weakness is not without explanation:







DOES ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE WE COULD NOMINATE A HISTORICALLY DISLIKED AND DISTRUSTED CANDIDATE WITHOUT THERE BEING CONSEQUENCES IN THE GENERAL ELECTION?

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