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GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:39 AM Apr 2016

Meme of the day recycled: Clinton (again) asks where Sanders was during the health care fight of 90s

https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/721821306057068544

Clinton (again) asks where Sanders was during the health care fight of the 90s: "Where were you? I mean, really??"




We need to get video of this... Who does she think she is fooling...



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Meme of the day recycled: Clinton (again) asks where Sanders was during the health care fight of 90s (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
Pointing out her lies does not make her stop. dchill Apr 2016 #1
She knows the lie always outpaces the correction. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #4
A lie is halfway around the world... dchill Apr 2016 #7
She makes it so I need healthcare -- i.e. Her lies make me sick sometimes. Armstead Apr 2016 #14
Question: does the USA want a president who never stops lying? eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #36
I think that 5 1/2 years of Nixon, 8 years of Reagan, Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #61
Evidently the truth in this case might come with international prosecution for a lot of "excess deat Baobab Apr 2016 #63
I have a better question, why did Hillary abandon the fight for single payer?: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #2
This should be an OP not just cuz I want to rec it, but because that is really good info. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #3
I'm not going to have time to babysit an op but someone else is welcome to use it. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #10
Yeah I know how you feel I posted something about Hillary being a huge arms dealer Kalidurga Apr 2016 #12
+1 BeanMusical Apr 2016 #5
As I understand it, single payer and the public option were... dchill Apr 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #13
This is in response to bmus' hidden post replying to this... cui bono Apr 2016 #20
I can't even read her post. This place is really undemocratic! WTF! haikugal Apr 2016 #22
Right in the hidden ost there is a link that you click on and it un-hides it for you. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #42
I got confused because there was no post just a comment in the title. haikugal Apr 2016 #47
Right? What kind of hide was that?!!!! Kittycat Apr 2016 #53
Exactly. dchill Apr 2016 #23
I read this post TSIAS Apr 2016 #25
I am so confused! Are we not allowed to question Howard Dean? jillan Apr 2016 #26
And why isn't Skinner doing what he said he would: removing people from juries duty JimDandy Apr 2016 #28
Because Hillary. cui bono Apr 2016 #31
It should be clear to him that BMUS bvf Apr 2016 #33
Because if you are going to trash Democrats on DemocraticUnderground you take your chances? JTFrog Apr 2016 #52
He is. I have been removed from jury duty without a reason. I have no idea why. rhett o rick May 2016 #65
Well you know, he's a Hillary supporter so... cui bono Apr 2016 #30
How are you able to reply to a hidden post? JimDandy Apr 2016 #27
You can't. But if your reply was made before the post was hidden it will be there. cui bono Apr 2016 #29
Probably the worst hide I have ever seen here - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #34
They were scheming to get her "flagged for review" and they succeeded. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #37
That hide was bullshit, and those animals deserve to lose their jury privs. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #43
Jury Results Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #55
They just keep on trying, huh? VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #59
I put up a question about hiding such posts on the Ask the Administrator forum. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #46
Obama didn't let them in the room. . . only lobbyists pdsimdars Apr 2016 #41
No you understood wrong - that is just the fake cover story Baobab Apr 2016 #62
Excellent post Scottie... Docreed2003 Apr 2016 #9
Hey! How are you? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #16
I'm great, hope you are as well! Docreed2003 Apr 2016 #58
Wow. Follow the money ... senz Apr 2016 #21
Is there a point to this? George II Apr 2016 #60
That's Bruce Rappaport! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #6
He's been fighting for it since at least the 80's -- She fucked it up. Armstead Apr 2016 #11
She is lying. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #15
Why am I having a vision of a rolodex file with a different Bernie smear on each card? jillan Apr 2016 #17
Kick and R BeanMusical Apr 2016 #18
What an idiot. cui bono Apr 2016 #19
Uma did say she gets confused a lot. I guess she knew what she was talking about. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #24
She doesn't care that we know she's a compulsive liar jfern Apr 2016 #32
Perhaps Hillary has blocked out memories of Bernie in regards to this issue because of PTSD Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #35
But remember, it's only RW attacks that make her seem untrustworthy. jeff47 Apr 2016 #38
Since when did pointing out the truth stop Camp Clinton from lying? Skwmom Apr 2016 #39
She is TOTAL Republilcan. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #40
Heh, someone should add a song and some text to the last video.... nc4bo Apr 2016 #44
shouldn't that be JOHNNY Capehart? XD MisterP Apr 2016 #54
Check this out... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #45
I don't get how she can keep doubling down on her lies when proved otherwise. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #48
So because Sanders appears in a couple of photos, that means he contributed? randome Apr 2016 #49
Too bad many of the corrupted shitheads in Congress refused nc4bo Apr 2016 #50
Well, that's what we get with 535 legislators all trying to stand out from the rest. randome Apr 2016 #51
She said it again? After it was demolished by photographic evidence before? Vinca Apr 2016 #56
For my friend who was wronged me b zola Apr 2016 #57
She's a pathological liar Zira Apr 2016 #64

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
61. I think that 5 1/2 years of Nixon, 8 years of Reagan,
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:30 AM
Apr 2016

8 years of Dubyah, etc., have made Americans immune to non-stop lying.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
63. Evidently the truth in this case might come with international prosecution for a lot of "excess deat
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

amenable to healthcare.

20 years worth.

When it would have been cheaper to just give it to people.

But, they lied and probably over a million poorer Americans died, as the Doha Development Agenda talks dragged on.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
2. I have a better question, why did Hillary abandon the fight for single payer?:
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:42 AM
Apr 2016
Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees

Hillary Clinton’s sudden attack on Bernie Sanders’ single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible — not that it is a bad idea.

Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.

That was certainly Clinton’s position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.

But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.



Source: Public federal disclosures, Clinton campaign

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/


Democratic Debate 2015: Hillary Clinton’s ‘Enemies’ In Pharmaceutical and Insurance Industries Have Supported Her Campaigns, Foundation

In 2008, Clinton was the among the three biggest recipients of campaign cash from pharmaceutical-related companies, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. In all, the watchdog group reports that she raised $738,000 from employees of pharmaceutical manufacturers and companies classified as “Pharmaceuticals /Health Products.” The center reports that Clinton also raised more than $1.2 million from the insurance industry -- which includes health insurers.

On top of those campaign contributions, the Clintons and their family foundation have benefited from their ties to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.

In 2011, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) -- the primary trade association representing drug companies -- paid Bill Clinton $200,000 for a speech, as the organization was lobbying the Hillary Clinton-led State Department. Last year, the Drug Chemical and Associated Technologies Association, a trade group whose members include major pharmaceutical companies, paid her a $250,000 speaking fee.


Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation has received between $1 million and $5 million worth of donations separately from drug manufacturers Pfizer and Procter & Gamble, and from health insurers Humana and Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina. Some of those companies made donations as recently as this year, according to the foundation’s website.

That largesse was part of a friendship forged after those industries opposed her 1993 health care initiative -- and which continued after she won reelection to the Senate in 2006.

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/democratic-debate-2015-hillary-clintons-enemies-pharmaceutical-insurance

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
10. I'm not going to have time to babysit an op but someone else is welcome to use it.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

I've posted the info before and it got little notice.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
12. Yeah I know how you feel I posted something about Hillary being a huge arms dealer
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:07 AM
Apr 2016

It didn't get much attention. Someone else posted about the same thing and it did, so I am glad that issue finally got some attention. Maybe after a few people bring it up.

dchill

(38,505 posts)
8. As I understand it, single payer and the public option were...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

"Taken off the table" by the DLC, Repubs didn't have to do anything. Insurance lobby coup de money.

Response to dchill (Reply #8)

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
20. This is in response to bmus' hidden post replying to this...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:12 AM
Apr 2016

What the hell kind of hide is that??? I guess you are being alert stalked, though since there's no time outs I don't know why they bother.

What is wrong with what you said? Dean did sell out. He's a paid lobbyist now. Duh.

.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
22. I can't even read her post. This place is really undemocratic! WTF!
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:23 AM
Apr 2016

We have special rules for the special few...

Ok...that's a bogus hide by a bunch of stalkers!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
42. Right in the hidden ost there is a link that you click on and it un-hides it for you.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

It is really a stupid hide. How can they do that for such a nothing post that is factually accurate?

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
25. I read this post
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:53 AM
Apr 2016

How could it possibly have been hidden. Is Howard Dean a sacred cow at DU now?

Nothing personal against a DU'er. Hardly the worst insult leveled at a POLITICIAN.

Now that cali has decided to stay away I guess the Clinton Cave has found a new target.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
28. And why isn't Skinner doing what he said he would: removing people from juries duty
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:02 AM
Apr 2016

who hide posts that have no business being hidden (or not hiding posts that deserve to be hidden)?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
33. It should be clear to him that BMUS
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:13 AM
Apr 2016

has had a target on her back for a long time here.

If his announcement earlier meant anything at all, she'll be back straightaway. And some people should definitely lose jury privileges over this.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
52. Because if you are going to trash Democrats on DemocraticUnderground you take your chances?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

Just a thought.



 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
65. He is. I have been removed from jury duty without a reason. I have no idea why.
Mon May 2, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

I think he meant he wanted to level the playing field on the juries between Sanders supporters and Clinton fans.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
27. How are you able to reply to a hidden post?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:58 AM
Apr 2016

I've never seen this be allowed before. In the past 2 days, though, I've seen 3 replies to hidden posts.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
37. They were scheming to get her "flagged for review" and they succeeded.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:11 AM
Apr 2016

She has been alert stalked by the campers for a long time.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
55. Jury Results
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

On Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:22 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

That hide was bullshit, and those animals deserve to lose their jury privs.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1767233

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling DU'ers and jurors "animals" is beyond the pale.This kind of viciousness just doesn't belong here. Skinner will deal with any untoward actions on the part of jurors. This is exactly the kind of nastiness that needs to be addressed.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:34 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The HRC people are out of control on this site and it's becoming tiresome. I've been on this site since 2004 and I've never seen a group run amok like these folks. Let VP's post stand and give it a rest.

Ned_Devine
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is more than enough nastiness going around these days. This is close to the edge but emotions are running so high so I'm iffy on this. When in doubt, I don't hide.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: it's just an opinion yet I guess some may take it as disparagement. Still, we certainly aren't flora. very mixed on this one.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
59. They just keep on trying, huh?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

It's like they expect someone who's been slandered as a tea partier, a misogynist, and a racist to not punch back. Heat, kitchen, all that. You're a saint, Ned.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
62. No you understood wrong - that is just the fake cover story
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

The real reason we can't have affordable health care without selling out our doctors and nurses and brining in foreign temps - is that those jobs have been put into a sort of global poker game- Its a fake crisis created to push the country into allowing more Mode Four- Mode Four is part of a WTO services trade deal-

GATS is a trade deal signed by Bill Clinton in 1994 - The General Agreement on Trade in Services. It is the real reason our health care and education are so screwed up.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
58. I'm great, hope you are as well!
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

Spring has finally come to New England and the weather is lovely. I've been around, mostly just lurking. It's better for my blood pressure, lol!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
21. Wow. Follow the money ...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:18 AM
Apr 2016

It's horrifying.

It would make a great OP which would put the information out where more people could see it. Maybe a few New Yorkers would be interested.

George II

(67,782 posts)
60. Is there a point to this?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

And why not give a full summary of contributors to the Clinton Global Initiative?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. He's been fighting for it since at least the 80's -- She fucked it up.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:07 AM
Apr 2016

She is not all that good at "getting things done." At least not positive things.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
17. Why am I having a vision of a rolodex file with a different Bernie smear on each card?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:36 AM
Apr 2016

Sitting on Brock's desk?

Contact the media. Today's spin will be....



They must be starting over.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
35. Perhaps Hillary has blocked out memories of Bernie in regards to this issue because of PTSD
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:10 AM
Apr 2016

from all the sniper fire in Bosnia that she was subjected to?




Thanks for the thread, GeorgiaPeanuts.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
38. But remember, it's only RW attacks that make her seem untrustworthy.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

It has absolutely nothing to do with her own actions.

Really.

the meme says so, so it must be true.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
40. She is TOTAL Republilcan.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

Her supporters say she's the true Democrat, but that is just words. . .
Look at her, Rebpulican 101. . .

Ignore the facts, ignore the truth, ignore your own lying EYES. . . .
and double down on the BIG LIE! It's who she is.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
44. Heh, someone should add a song and some text to the last video....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

Something along the lines of "Hillary asks: where was Senator Sanders during my speech on healthcare?"

Song in the background playing : "There is someone walking behind you. Turn around look at me"

Come on, someone do it! LOL.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
49. So because Sanders appears in a couple of photos, that means he contributed?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

There is a reason he has as few Senate endorsements as Ted Cruz. He doesn't work well with others. All he does is talk down to people. If that's what he did in the 90s during the health care push, it's no wonder he could be said to not have helped.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
50. Too bad many of the corrupted shitheads in Congress refused
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:56 AM
Apr 2016

To listen to him. Perhaps we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.

Corporations are people too just keep the money flowing to our campaigns, keep giving us more and more and we'll quid pro quo the hell out of the 99%. Been working at getting it just right for many a decade now and the cake is nearly done! It'll be a gas!

Ha Ha Ha Yuckety Yuck.

Suckas.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
51. Well, that's what we get with 535 legislators all trying to stand out from the rest.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

And the unavoidable method to use to push through that is...diplomacy. In fact, it's essential.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
56. She said it again? After it was demolished by photographic evidence before?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

Is she getting terribly bad advice from her handlers or is her memory really this bad?

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