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Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:20 AM Apr 2016

Why Single Payer won't happen under a Clinton administration

Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees 

Hillary Clinton’s sudden attack on Bernie Sanders’ single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible — not that it is a bad idea. 

Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen. 

That was certainly Clinton’s position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill. 

But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry. 

Source: Public federal disclosures, Clinton campaign 

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/



Democratic Debate 2015: Hillary Clinton’s ‘Enemies’ In Pharmaceutical and Insurance Industries Have Supported Her Campaigns, Foundation 

In 2008, Clinton was the among the three biggest recipients of campaign cash from pharmaceutical-related companies, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. In all, the watchdog group reports that she raised $738,000 from employees of pharmaceutical manufacturers and companies classified as “Pharmaceuticals /Health Products.” The center reports that Clinton also raised more than $1.2 million from the insurance industry -- which includes health insurers. 

On top of those campaign contributions, the Clintons and their family foundation have benefited from their ties to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries. 

In 2011, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) -- the primary trade association representing drug companies -- paid Bill Clinton $200,000 for a speech, as the organization was lobbying the Hillary Clinton-led State Department. Last year, the Drug Chemical and Associated Technologies Association, a trade group whose members include major pharmaceutical companies, paid her a $250,000 speaking fee. 


Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation has received between $1 million and $5 million worth of donations separately from drug manufacturers Pfizer and Procter & Gamble, and from health insurers Humana and Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina. Some of those companies made donations as recently as this year, according to the foundation’s website. 

That largesse was part of a friendship forged after those industries opposed her 1993 health care initiative -- and which continued after she won reelection to the Senate in 2006. 

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/democratic-debate-2015-hillary-clintons-enemies-pharmaceutical-insurance

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Why Single Payer won't happen under a Clinton administration (Original Post) Kalidurga Apr 2016 OP
Bought and sold. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #1
despite your false claims it will not happen under mr. party of one either msongs Apr 2016 #2
War for business opportunities won't happen either so there is that. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #3
It won't happen under Sanders either. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #4
How about the increments? PATRICK Apr 2016 #5
Hillary will be loyal to her big-money donors. senz Apr 2016 #6
Single payer won't happen under any administration ... Onlooker Apr 2016 #7
She'll bring us 'free' trade, job outsourcing and more fracking, though. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #8
Quid pro quo fun n serious Apr 2016 #9
Hillary has rarely been on the left of any issue and healthcare is no different. Vinca Apr 2016 #10
K&R Lone_Wolf Apr 2016 #11

msongs

(67,420 posts)
2. despite your false claims it will not happen under mr. party of one either
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:28 AM
Apr 2016

there is no connection between campaign funds and things a politician will do in the future no matter how many times you wish it to be so. bernie has been in congress some 25 years or so and the people who know him best are not supporting him, with a very few exceptions

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
4. It won't happen under Sanders either.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:09 AM
Apr 2016

It can happen if enough Democrats are elected in Congress. That is why Congress is identified under Article I of the Constitution. They create the legislation.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
5. How about the increments?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:38 AM
Apr 2016

You know, making Obamacare better so maybe the working poor donut hole that sees a significant slice of the population fined or with crushing high deductible premiums to useless hellbound shark private sector middlemen dragging down the rest of the economy as sort of a revenge I suppose on its glorious progress. Of course they have relation to the merdicare elderly, the unhealthiest sector in that with their youth they can survive the burden of bailing out other slices so they can receive better second rate coverage from hellbound middlemen. Or manage to become poorer- it shouldn't be hard- and take up residence in the shrinking number of Dem governed states offering the enhanced Medicaid option.

Who could hope for better? Should we even try? There is such a long line of worthy Americans, many living close to their tax free havens
getting free, unequivocal fast track extremist support to show us all that increments are for suckers alone.

Give up hope and I will fight to give you some spare change. of course, it might not happen in the short lifetime remaining to humanity, but it is definitely positively the best we can professionally do. Frack you very much.

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
7. Single payer won't happen under any administration ...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:49 AM
Apr 2016

...

Obama barely got healthcare reform passed as is. He had to rely exclusively on Democratic votes and was forced to compromise with the conservative Blue Dog Democrats. When you consider Sanders record in persuading no one in Congress on any of his key issues, how do you think he'll actually get anything done?

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
9. Quid pro quo
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:42 AM
Apr 2016

has not been proven. In my opinion, single payer won't happen under Clinton or Sanders if we don't work on getting a dem congress.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
10. Hillary has rarely been on the left of any issue and healthcare is no different.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:45 AM
Apr 2016

I expect after getting the nomination she'll tack back to where she's comfortable: moderate right. The old bait and switch.

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