2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGet it straight. The thrown money was a symbolic protest of her taking super PAC $$$
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It's just like her detractors calling her $hillary.
Of course the marching orders out of Camp Weathervane is to twist it into something sexist. Funny how sexism is the first thing she uses. She's the sexist one.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Proceed Mr. Former President!
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)it would land most men in JAIL today. And rightly so.
Not even Bill Cosby can escape social justice. Smart women who realize HRC is just an enabler will not vote for HRC.
Chezboo
(230 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)how does that contortion work exactly?
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Bernie is good on gender equality in principle, but he does not have Hillary's track record on working for women's rights globally.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)but the statements that Hillary has just been a talker on women's rights, and that Bernie is stronger, is just nonsense.
Here's some material for you:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-10/hillary-clinton-s-long-cautious-record-on-women-s-rights
http://plannedparenthoodaction.org/blog/how-do-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-compare-womens-health
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...to notice her poor decision making habits as they are her gender.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...you know what that law says and no one has full immunity. Feel free to misrepresent it, though.
Any thoughts on Hillarys history of poor judgement?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Sanders has no better judgement than Clinton
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...I'll match you, though, with a list for Hillary:
- NAFTA
- TPP
- Libya
- Crime Bill (admittedly a turd sandwich of a bill, but comparing Hillary's statements about it vs Bernie's tells the story)
- IWR
I'm sure there's more but 5 works for now.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... things that Sanders has shown bad judgement on not just guns.
Either way, Sanders bag of bad is no less full than Clintons no matter how much he plays hollier than thou
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...just say so and get it over with.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... stones and has gotten pretty good at it to the point where there's nothing that can be shown to prove his bag of bad is no more light than hers.
So then it's a matter of effectiveness to me.... I've not seen that from Sanders, there are few examples of him leading any kind of revolution.
If he had some examples I don't think Clinton would have ran
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They are objectifying that chauffeur-driven black town car just like it's some sort of hooters waitress!!!
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)he'd be in great position.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)"Gotcha" topic of the day....
Oh wait.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Imagine what a mess our country would be!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)New York doesn't go for idealists and dreamers at the ballot box.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... Hillary's lead
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... were alert stalked.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It's interesting how many of the posters in this thread claiming 'those others' are crass and biased have blazing hot transparency pages full of invective and name calling and outlandish extreme verbiage.
Everyone should read it.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The TV is covering it the way it was meant and of course are not linking it to the other non-story of somebody elsewhere said "corporate whore" to describe politicians (oh, the humanity!). One thing TV might understand better than the Hillaryverse is pound-for-pound effectiveness of media price. $1K, mostly recovered, generates loads of media with clear messaging. Clooney ends up as spokesperson for admitting money in politics is obscene.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)almost every one of the money crazed brokers who grabbed for them were men. It was great optics. Now if you are saying that women have to be treated different then men because they are women, what does one call that?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)with money in a protest against corruption.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)And both can be right.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)and her supporters would swarm you decrying you as a misogynistic neo-Nazi islamophobic Trump supporter. You act like the rules somehow changed within a week.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I think these "explanations" are so transparent, it's as if we all be come slow of mind near an election.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)when Hillary is derided for raising money to win democratic seats. Foolhardy nonsense. Shame on them.