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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:51 AM Apr 2016

I acknowledge that Bernie has an excellent chance to win the NY primary.

He's from Brooklyn, after all, and still has the accent. His signature issue is to break apart the big banks and New Yorkers have seen close-up just how devastating Wall Street has been to the economy of New York City and the country. He's thrown some big rallies, and while De Blasio has endorsed Hillary, the mayor's "Macaca moment" last week when he was exposed as a racist means that his endorsement is worth very little. Bernie's pilgrimage to the Vatican will help win him the Catholic vote. And as we know, primary polls tend to be wrong and don't mean much. And nobody is going to pay much attention to the endorsements of the NY corporatist newspapers.

So Bernie, I believe, has an excellent chance to win in NY. Of course, if the underdog Hillary overcomes all this and beats him anyway, it will be an utterly devastating blow to his campaign which he will be unlikely to recover from.

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I acknowledge that Bernie has an excellent chance to win the NY primary. (Original Post) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 OP
You view Hillary as the underdog ? SamKnause Apr 2016 #1
No kidding Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #2
The OP seems to be intended as humor. merrily Apr 2016 #3
Have you seen the size of Bernie's rallies? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #9
Yeah but not as big as all those ones Bernie had in Texas workinclasszero Apr 2016 #13
Don't forget his Florida rally. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18
Yeah that was a YUUUUGE one too! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #19
Bernie could win all of this if... apnu Apr 2016 #4
Agreed griffi94 Apr 2016 #5
The polls mean nothing. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #11
I should have added an LOL griffi94 Apr 2016 #12
Agreed. He has the momentum. So what if Hillary is ahead in most polls up to 17% onehandle Apr 2016 #6
easy take, LOL....yeah, beating her in the state that elected her twice to the Senate virtualobserver Apr 2016 #28
If he loses his home state after all that momentum geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7
It will indeed be DEVASTATING. His campaign will IMPLODE. Watch his numbers PLUMMET, while... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #8
This is who you love ---> ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #10
Yes, an unknown taking hillary this far is embarassing for her. Logical Apr 2016 #17
When I see people attempting to post satire I so miss Third Way Manny. Autumn Apr 2016 #14
I wouldn't even mind pro-Clinton satire...If it were actually funny Armstead Apr 2016 #22
I post that Bernie has a good chance to win and you automatically assume that it's satire? Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #23
A persons posting history says a lot about that person. Your posting history Autumn Apr 2016 #25
So a nice title but smartass post, nice. Logical Apr 2016 #15
Your last paragraph is spot on though I already think he is too far behind to recover. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #16
Nefarious, I tell ya'...Nefarious! virtualobserver Apr 2016 #31
This Is Strategy PCPrincess Apr 2016 #20
If that's strategy, I think most Sanders supporters on DU are experienced with its implementation HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #30
This is Sanders race to lose KingFlorez Apr 2016 #21
Calling HRC the underdog is amusing. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #24
She's been the underdog in NY from the outset. Even a close loss will be a fantastic win. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #26
Is that sarcasm? hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #35
I think Sanders DOES have a good chance of winning NY. I think enough HRC voters blm Apr 2016 #27
To quote an old saying..."From your keyboard to God's ears" Armstead Apr 2016 #32
Now here's how to do snarky satire -- Hillary's Inner Tracy Flick Armstead Apr 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #33
Kick (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #34
Never let it be said that I don't admit to my mistakes. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #36

apnu

(8,758 posts)
4. Bernie could win all of this if...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:58 AM
Apr 2016

... He keeps telling Democrats how Bernie's ideas will help Democrats.

I think the passion is there in the party, I think the will is there in the party, but he's still seen as an outsider. He's got the indepentent and youth vote behind him, now he needs old party types. Appealing to the needs of Democrats, all Democrats, is the next step.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
12. I should have added an LOL
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

I was poking fun at the Bernie supporters who continue to move the goal posts

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. Agreed. He has the momentum. So what if Hillary is ahead in most polls up to 17%
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:03 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie has an excellent chance of pulling an upset.

If he cannot achieve this easy take, he is finished.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
28. easy take, LOL....yeah, beating her in the state that elected her twice to the Senate
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

next, you'll be saying that he won because Vermont is right next to New York.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. It will indeed be DEVASTATING. His campaign will IMPLODE. Watch his numbers PLUMMET, while...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

... Hillary's poll numbers continue to SURGE!!

Go, Hillary! We love you!


Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
23. I post that Bernie has a good chance to win and you automatically assume that it's satire?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

Interesting.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
25. A persons posting history says a lot about that person. Your posting history
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

has been very clear.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Your last paragraph is spot on though I already think he is too far behind to recover.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

That is one of the reasons his actions of late aren't just poor political moves, they are flat out nefarious.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
30. If that's strategy, I think most Sanders supporters on DU are experienced with its implementation
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

on these pages.

That said, I think the outcome is less than certain.

It's somewhat easier to identify poll participants as previous voting in a closed primary is a pretty good predictor of future voting in a closed primary. But there have been a lot of new registrations. If I understand this notice correctly ...

April 19, 2016 Presidential Primary Deadlines

MAIL REGISTRATION (N.Y. Election Law Section 5-210(3))
Application must be postmarked no later than March 25th and received by a board of elections no later than March 30th to be eligible to vote in the Presidential Primary.

IN PERSON REGISTRATION (N.Y. Election Law Sections 5-210, 5-211, 5-212)
You may register at your local board of elections or any state agency participating in the National Voter Registration Act, on any business day throughout the year but, to be eligible to vote in the Presidential Primary, your application must be received no later than March 25th.


... then the end of registration would have been just as Sanders began his multi-state rally of big wins out west. So I'm just not sure how new voter registration went as the Mar deadline loomed.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
21. This is Sanders race to lose
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

If Hillary Clinton comes from behind and beats him in New York it is game over.

ridgenvalley

(58 posts)
24. Calling HRC the underdog is amusing.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

Money, power and connections does not an underdog make.

Interesting spin, though.

blm

(113,065 posts)
27. I think Sanders DOES have a good chance of winning NY. I think enough HRC voters
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

will see the inflated polls for her and not show up assuming she has it in the bag, and while Sanders voters are taking it far more seriously, imo.

I think it's going to be very tight.

Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
36. Never let it be said that I don't admit to my mistakes.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

I read too much into the size of Bernie's rallies and his home state advantage. I do still see this as a surprising loss, and devastating for Bernie's campaign.

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