2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUsing BernieBros is sexist misnomer.
You shouldn't complain about gender inequality if you're promoting it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)The only people that thought this was sexist in any way was Hillary supporters when it back fired on them.
"look at me, look at me, I'm swinging on a pole begging you to throw $1 bills at me --- Oh no! They're throwing $1 bills at me like I'm a stripper!!"
Sexism no longer has a meaning -- congratulations Hill-bullies!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for it."
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)The call to throw $1 bills at Hillary was started by Hillary, and was around for weeks without any Bernie supporters going for the 'stripper' comparison ... it was the Hillary camp who started that comparison ... don't start a sexist meme if you don't want a sexist meme.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)She's been attacking while simultaneously yelling victim again.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)Protalker
(418 posts)Who do you all see as the enemy? What is the end game? I'm concerned about losing to Cruz. What are your plans if your candidate loses?
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)For the half of the country living on $500 a week or less, incrementalism is just as bad as right-wing extremism. It could be fatal for many. Death is a real outcome for people living like this and they have to vote for whom they need now because they might not see the next election. The supporters who defend accumulated wealth, the status quo, who don't see the problem with taking hundreds of thousands of dollar for a speech, and think all campaign contributions are good no matter whom they are coming from, are just as much my enemy. They choose to remain ignorant to the real existential danger that a lot of Americans live with every day.
Protalker
(418 posts)I have been a counselor to indigent people now heroin addicts for 30 years. I have a very small salary. What I know is life for the people I serve is better when democrats win. I believe in the diagnosis of what is wrong. My vote goes to who can get it done.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)coming from the Clinton White House. Perishing of benign neglect or active hatred is no choice. Better the enemy that sneers at my face, than the one that does so behind my back. But I don't mistake the latter for my friend or ally.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I don't think feminists would do that.
I would have mentioned that much sooner if I had ever thought any of that bs was really about women, rather than being about Hillary, even if it hurt women generally, As a female from birth, I am just not good at pissing in the wind, so I didn't bother bringing it up.
For some reason I thought you were a man; I don't know why. As a woman who supports Bernie and is a feminist, I resent the term, too. His supporters are not all young white men, as some Hillary supporters like to claim.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I hope that assumption doesn't reflect some unconscious bias against my own gender, since I always enjoy reading your posts.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Even if it weren't my posts it would not be your bad. How are you supposed to know my sex from my posts?
Glad you enjoy reading my posts, though.
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notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)when they have their finger out pointing at Sander's supporters, they have three pointing right back at them.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)No need to clutter up the page with the same post said x amount of ways.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)This video is especially for you
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)eShirl
(18,494 posts)seaglass
(8,173 posts)the same way "Bernie Bros" do - you do realize that this does not refer to all Bernie supporters?
Bernie stan is a better term as it's gender neutral.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)eShirl
(18,494 posts)Usually; I'm not so sure that's always the case though. I think maybe a few posters actually DO mean to label all Sanders supporters as "Bernie Bros."
gollygee
(22,336 posts)It isn't intended to be a descriptor of all Bernie supporters.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)That hasn't stopped the lying liars from Camp Weathervane from smearing me withthar BULL SHIT. label multiple times. Fucking lying liars, one and all, just like their lying liar candidate.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)endorsed Hillary, like Trayvon Martin's mom....or John Lewis? You want to know what is sexist...claiming that women voting for Hillary are only voting with their girly bits...not their brains...now that's sexist and that's coming from the Bernie side.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)We learn this approach as we are first socialized among pre-schoolers, and it's always there, always available when we need it.
Coalition building, and reliance on a coalition's capacity to encourage the release of aggression from within the protected company of an in-group are central features of our particular species of ape.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)But using it to broad-brush all Sanders supporters (or all Sanders supporters on DU) is lazy and a failure to acknowledge the legitimacy of an entire campaign.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)no further reading necessary
mythology
(9,527 posts)I can say that some Sanders supporters and some Clinton supporters have acted like assholes without having to come up with some denigrating nicknames.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)It's designed to make people view his supporters as being entirely made up of white frat boys though, which is belittling to all the women and PoC in the Sanders camp.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)<Hillary is banal, corrupted, drained of vibrancy and passion. I mean, shes been around forever, the Clinton circle. Shes a fucking hawk and like a neocon, practically. Shes surrounded by all these sleazy money types who are just corrupting everything everywhere. But shes going to be the first female president, and women in America are going to be completely invested in her candidacy. Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist. Its going to be this completely symbolic messaging thats going to overshadow the fact that shell do nothing but continue everything in pursuit of her own power. Theyll probably have a gay person after Hillary whos just going to do the same thing.
I hope this happens so badly, because I think itll be so instructive in that regard. Itll prove the point. Americans love to mock the idea of monarchy, and yet we have our own de facto monarchy. I think what these leaks (he is referring to the Snowden leaks) did is, they demonstrated that there really is this government that just is the kind of permanent government that doesnt get affected by election choices and that isnt in any way accountable to any sort of democratic transparency and just creates its own world off on its own.>
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)sexist comments of Debbie "young women are complacent" Schultz, Gloria "female Bernie supporters are only in it to get guys" and Madeleine "special place in hell" Albright.
But their term Bernie bros erases the very existence of female Bernie supporters.
Such hypocrisy and sexism from the supporters of the woman who never fails to play the woman card which no real feminist would do.
beedle
(1,235 posts)Hillary is the one that asked to have $1 bills throw at her, and no Bernie supporters connected that to 'strippers' .. greed? lack of self awareness? Out of touch? Yes, those were all things Bernie supporters accused Hillary of, but none of them said anything about 'strippers'.
It was the Hillary camp that made the 'connection' between $1 bills and strippers, not Bernie supporters.
Oh, and I don't see anything wrong with strippers. They are people too, people that if Hillary were a true feminist would be proud to associate with ... I know I would much prefer to have strippers as friends than war mongers like Hillary & Kissinger.