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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:32 AM Apr 2016

Clinton Is Winning The States That Look Like The Democratic Party






“Secretary Clinton cleaned our clock in the Deep South, no question about it,” Bernie Sanders said during Thursday night’s Democratic debate in Brooklyn. “That is the most conservative part of this great country,” he continued. “But you know what, we’re out of the Deep South now. And we’re moving up.”

I have a few problems with this line of argument, which seems to imply that Democratic voters in the Deep South don’t reflect the larger Democratic electorate. (The remarks Thursday night echo previous comments made by Sanders and his campaign.) Consider Sanders’s reference to the term “Deep South,” which traditionally describes Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina: These are five of the only six states, along with Maryland, where at least a quarter of the population is black. Given the United States’ history of disenfranchising black voters — not to mention the importance of black voters to Democrats in November — it’s dicey for Sanders to diminish Clinton’s wins there.

But the Deep South isn’t Sanders’s only issue. His problems in the rest of the South are what really dooms him. Clinton’s largest net delegate gains over Sanders came from Texas (+72) and Florida (+68), two states that are within the South as the Census Bureau (and most other people) define it. Clinton also cleaned Sanders’s clock in Virginia and North Carolina. Overall, Clinton gained a net of 155 delegates on Sanders in the five Deep South states, but she also added 211 delegates to her margin in the rest of the region.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/
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Clinton Is Winning The States That Look Like The Democratic Party (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 OP
Yes, we are preparing for the arrival of NY when they go under the bus. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1
States that haven't voted for a Democrat for President since 1965 jeff47 Apr 2016 #2
Not only do the Red States mentioned NOT look like the Democratic Party randr Apr 2016 #3
FL, VA, NC, OH, IL, NV, MA, IA, don't look like the rest of America ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #4
You forgot Texas, the State the wants to secede from our Nation randr Apr 2016 #5
I must respectfully demur from your assessment. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #6

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Yes, we are preparing for the arrival of NY when they go under the bus.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

Not bad here, lots of really nice people are here.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
2. States that haven't voted for a Democrat for President since 1965
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:46 AM
Apr 2016

look like the Democratic party.

Sure. Makes perfect sense.

randr

(12,412 posts)
3. Not only do the Red States mentioned NOT look like the Democratic Party
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:48 AM
Apr 2016

Many wonder if they even look like the rest of America.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. FL, VA, NC, OH, IL, NV, MA, IA, don't look like the rest of America ?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

Even when I was in Miami's Little Havana or Tampa's Ybor City I felt like I was In America.

Stop being so provincial.

randr

(12,412 posts)
5. You forgot Texas, the State the wants to secede from our Nation
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016

and the racism in Florida is dripping from the trees.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. I must respectfully demur from your assessment.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

Malcolm X said that he never lived in the south and everything he learned about racism he learned in the north. Dr. King said he experienced more racism trying to integrate Chicago housing than he ever did in the south.

I have lived in New York City, Orlando, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and Los Angeles. I will regale you with all the racist, homophobic, and anti-semitic language I have heard in all five places if you want.

I remember on my first visit to L A I sat next to this couple on the flight who lamented on the power of the gays in Los Angeles.

Bigotry is not endemic to any area of our nation. Stop being so provincial.

P.S. The suggestion that the racism in Florida is dripping from the trees is risible. It's the most transient state in America. If Florida is racist it means all of America because so many people there are from somewhere else.


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