How come nobody threw dollars bills at Obama when he attended high dollar fundraisers?

[Cali_Democrat]

Or maybe they did and I missed it?

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. There was no one contestng the nomination who made campaign funiding a central issue then

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Sometimes the answers are simpler than it seems.

[retrowire]

28. this. /thread nt

[dsc]

48. kucinich was in the race

and he did but he had and his supporters had more class.

[Tom Rinaldo]

64. Just barely in 2008 (through no fault of his own)

In 2008 he was shaping the race about as much as Jim Webb was this year.)

"Dennis Kucinich announced on December 12, 2006 that he would seek the nomination for the Democratic Party to run for President of the United States. Although a Democratic candidate, he was not included in the New Hampshire debates on January 4, 2008 or the South Carolina debates on January 21, 2008 because of his poor showings in the Iowa caucuses and the polls.

On Thursday, January 24, 2008, Kucinich dropped his bid for the Democratic nomination after failing to draw more than 10% of the vote in a single contest. In withdrawing from the race, he cited his exclusion from Presidential debates and to continue his service in Congress"

Wikipedia also listed 22 points of his platform and none of those listed included campaign finance reform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich_presidential_campaign,_2008#Campaign_platform

[MinnieBlum]

52. And no one who wasn't also fundraising for downticket Dems

I'm sorry but I have increasing doubts that Bernie supporters actually are Democrats. It is every bit as important that Dems are elected to Congress as it is that the President is a Dem. Bernie has done no fundraising for Dems, it's all about him.

Bernie and his supporters are ignoring this which is absolutely incomprehensible to me. They seem to be increasingly vitriolic about Hillary, somehow believing if Bernie actually gets the nom, he will be winning the Presidency on his $27/head donors. Even if he won the Presidency, unless the Dems take a majority in Congress, he will be totally impotent.

Actually, it wasn't Bernie who initially challenged campaign financing. It was John McCain.

[Tom Rinaldo]

65. I'm the Chair of my townships Democratic Committee. n/t

[passiveporcupine]

68. Well, you might have a point if Hillary were doing what she says she is

The Clinton campaign is bending campaign finance rules to their breaking point all so Wall Street fat cats and people like Alice Walton can contribute 130 times the legal limit to support her campaign. All to defeat us in the primary.

You already know about the fundraiser Hillary Clinton held where a couple could contribute $353,000 to sit at a table with George Clooney. That money doesn’t go directly to the Clinton campaign, it goes to something called the "Hillary Victory Fund" – another account that has raised almost $35 million.

Well, for MONTHS the Clinton campaign has been saying the primary purpose of that fund is to support the DNC and state parties. But that’s not even close to true.

According to the Hillary Victory Fund’s most recent FEC report, 80 percent of the money they spent in 2016 – $25 MILLION – went directly towards helping the Clinton campaign itself.

Ouch, there is that darned FEC stuff again.

[NurseJackie]

2. Ooo! Oooo! I know! I know! Pick me! Pick me!

[think]

3. When did Obama get millions from speeches to corrupt banks?

[JackRiddler]

4. Good question. They should have!

It should be a thing at all these fundraisers regardless of party.

Are you jealous of the amazing coverage it's gotten, the crystal-clear messaging, the dollar-for-dollar best media buy ever? I understand.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. So why didn't they throw dollar bills at Obama like they did to Hillary? nt

[Goblinmonger]

12. Why didn't Occupy Wall Street happen in the 80s?

Because it was a form or protest that just happened.

You make it sound like it happened before and after Obama but not to Obama.

[JackRiddler]

13. Is this like a recursive loop in a computer program?

Because no one had thought of it yet? They should throw them at all fundraisers like this one. Hope to see it!

[pipoman]

18. Are you...like....10 years old?

[uponit7771]

21. Rational question, why dodge it with ad homs?

[pipoman]

25. Not an ad hom....and it isn't rational at all

Its like saying....why didn't NASA release the Mars probe the year before they did? Why didn't Coke distribute non-hfc Coke the year before they released it?

The real answer to the elementary question asked is, "duh", but that could come off rude....Instead I am curious if the person is a child which would explain the silliness of the question....It reminds me of a 4 year old child asking 'why' repeatedly.....

[AgerolanAmerican]

38. why can't I have a pony?

I like ponies

[retrowire]

31. why didn't cavemen have electricity!!!???

I mean, they had all the resources! Everything was there! WHYY??

Lol

[Demsrule86]

5. He is a man

Only women can be 'whores' deserving of contempt as shown by throwing dollars.

[Hissyspit]

29. No

See post #8

[retrowire]

32. you are weakening feminism. nt

[clarice]

42. Feminism was weakened in the 1990's...thanks to two people who shall not be mentioned.nt

[Lone_Wolf]

6. It never became an issue because both people sides were guilty of it

People then went to judge them on other criteria like who was most corrupt.

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Campaign finance never became an issue until recently? You sure about that? nt

[seabeyond]

16. Both sides are still guilty it's is just that one lies and one does not.

[clarice]

43. Which one is the liar?nt

[seabeyond]

51. The one campaigning he is not a politician.

[Bonobo]

8. Clearly it is sexism!!! nt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/abbie-hoffman-occupy-wall-street_b_993325.html

Wall Street Protest, Circa 1967
Forty-four years ago, Abbie Hoffman and a few friends made a statement on Wall Street. His merry band of pranksters took a tour of the New York Stock Exchange on August 24, 1967. The tour ended at a gallery overlooking the actual trading floor. Hoffman and his friends rushed to the railing, and began throwing money onto the heads of the traders below. The stock ticker (at the time, the sacred heartbeat of the American financial system) was halted for six minutes, while the crowd grubbed for the money on the floor. Hoffman’s group was then escorted out, where they spoke to a crowd of reporters.

Hoffman wasn’t protesting any one thing in particular. His group didn’t have a list of demands. It’s not even correct to call his action a “protest” or “media event” — it was more properly “street theater” or “guerrilla theater.”

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/art/protest-night-at-the-museum-the-guggenheim-is-disrupted-by-demonstrators-throwing-fake-money-in-the-rotunda
Protest night at the museum: The Guggenheim is disrupted by demonstrators throwing fake money in the rotunda
As before, the protest was directed at unfair labor practices associated with institution’s plans to build a Frank Gehry–designed branch on Saadiyat Island near Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. Once again, the rotunda was showered with stuff tossed from the ramps—this time in the form of fake dollars bills marked with phrases such as What Does an Ethical Global Museum Look Like? and Shit Is Fucked Up & Bullshit.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/petroleum-executive-of-the-year-awards-protest-283
Last Night, Protesters Threw Cash at Big Oil Bosses Congratulating Themselves for Ruining the Environment
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While Dorchester security staff kept a number of protesters off the main forecourt, others managed to blockade a side entrance to the ballroom. Two had superglued their hands to the doors, much to the dismay of the first cop to arrive, while others sat in revolving doors, throwing Monopoly money at each other and laughing.

[Skwmom]

10. Pres. Obama did not have the baggage of the Clintons. Plus, did Michelle

make over a hundred million in speaking and consulting fees while her husband was President and I missed it?

[Attorney in Texas]

11. Could be because he didn't get unconscionably large $peaking fee$ from Wall $treet and then refu$ed

to release the transcripts while simultaneously claim that the speeches were full of harsh admonitions to Wall Street demanding they reform their crooked ways and not a bunch of apologetic blather to poor victimized Wall Street.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. What is this... groundhog day? All campaigns should be run exactly the same?

Candidate Obama attended $300,000+ plate fundraisers?

[dsc]

49. he most certainly did

in point of fact he attended one at Clooney's house in 2008.

[cherokeeprogressive]

58. And the Clinton camp had nothing to say about it?

Put pictures of Candidate Obama in Arab robes all over the news, question his nationality... and keep mum about his charging donors more than three hundred thousand dollars to sit at his table?

Bullshit.

[dsc]

60. unless Clooney is a big fat liar

he said exactly that on MTP. The fact is Obama had many, many, many such fundraisers and thank god he did.

[cherokeeprogressive]

67. Hillary Clinton AIN'T Barack Obama.

In fact, it's Bernie Sanders who seems more likely to have the kind of administration Barack Obama promised his would be.

We're so fucked as a country...

[dsc]

69. when it comes to fundraising they did the same things

and when it was someone with a penis doing it all was peaches and cream but let a woman do it and all hell breaks loose.

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. Excuse me if I'm not taking your word for "did the same things".

And fuck me to tears the obsession with gender is enough to make a sane person want to stick hot fireplace pokers in their eyes...

That aside, as I said in the subject line I won't be taking your words that Candidate Obama charged $330,000 per person to sit at the head table at a fundraiser at face value. I'm sorry.

[Orsino]

15. Because a change has come.

Sanders has shown us the folly of allowing Big Money to purchase our candidates, in a way that goes beyond even what a one-term senator did in 2008 against the Clinton juggernaut.

We are beginning to wake up to the realization that we can be stronger than money.

[MoonRiver]

17. Good question!

Unfortunately, we all know the answer.

[beedle]

19. Because he didn't beg them to do so.

[ibegurpard]

46. /endthread

[uponit7771]

20. +1

[jmg257]

22. Because Obama isn't identified as being a corporate whore?

[lakeguy]

23. Citizens united decision maybe?

[roody]

24. Because it was a different time.

[SamKnause]

27. Correct, short, and spot on !!!

I would like to add that Bernie understands and empathizes with the 99%.

Either they don't understand, or they are pretending they don't understand.

Have a safe and happy day.

It is beautiful here today.

83 and sunny.

[MadDAsHell]

26. Because someone would have a found a reason why throwing dollars is racist. nt

[jane123]

30. Because they were not as fed up as they are now

People became more aware during Obama's tenure about how corrupting money in politics can be and coupled with the bad press from citizen's United and the infuriating fact that not one banker responsible for the crash went to jail, unlike their counterparts in Iceland and other countries have sent people over the edge...that's why.

[hobbit709]

33. In 2008 I had "High Hopes" in 2016 it's "Won't Get Fooled Again"

[AgingAmerican]

34. He didn't sell his loyalty to corporations

For hundreds of millions in return like she did

[DemocracyDirect]

35. Just remember that President Obama is not giving speeches for $300,000

... and then running for president to regulate those same people.

Surely the optics of this can't escape even the most hardened Hillary supporter.

[Karmadillo]

36. Did Hillary make it an issue during the campaign?

[Protalker]

37. Why do people show partial birth fetuses

Why do they lie about Planned Parenthood selling body parts? They want to repeal Roe v Wade. To elect down ticket Dems to get our SCOTUS nomenies to repeal Citizens United we need to match Republicans cash to win.

[Uponthegears]

39. Perhaps

It is because President Obama's first campaign was an inspiring call for change by the most inspirational figure in US history AND, during that campaign he was the counterpoint to a DLC big buck big organization campaign from then-Senator Hillary Clinton. (perhaps you remember then-Senator Clinton's campaign . . . the less-then-subtle racism . . . the accusations of sexism . . . the DLC machine ginning up party machine to stop him . . . etc.?)

Even during President Obama's second campaign, when he was at the forefront among democrats in seeking out large donors (because he was the only Democrat seeking the nomination), he was generally seen as fighting against forces that Ms. Clinton cannot even imagine and therefore allowed a well-deserved amount of leeway. More importantly, he was a vocal opponent of Citizens United, as opposed to a candidate whose position was that big money is just fine because big money "doesn't affect her."

[peace13]

40. I don't mean to be rude but this sounds like a question a child would ask.

The issues concerning the Obama/Clinton election were not the same. We were reeling from continual wars, death of innocents and the annihilation of American troops. I fear that if people were to throw something at Clinton back then it would be much more graphic than a dollar bill.

One thing Clinton supporters need to understand...she is perfectly comfortable raking in the cash. She has zero qualms with it. She is strong and cunning as a fox. She doesn't need anyone fretting that she brings in too much cash. She just needs folks to get to the polls, plain and simple.

[clarice]

44. Best post in quite a while. nt

[Kalidurga]

41. Obama is above all likable. He is also honest and trustworthy.

Hillary for some is likable enough I suppose.

[amborin]

45. B/C President Obama NEVER PERSONALLY PROFITEERED FROM SPEAKING FEES THE WAY HILLARY HAS

AND I THINK YOU ARE DISSING PRESIDENT OBAMA WITH YOUR OP; YOU ARE USING THE SAME DECEIPT THAT HILLARY DOES....SHE SAYS, "WELL OBAMA DID IT."

NO, PRES. OBAMA DID NOT DO IT....HE GOT CAMPAIGN DONATIONS BUT HE NEVER PERSONALLY PROFITEERED FROM BANK SPEAKING FEES

[AgingAmerican]

47. Because he wasn't taking tens of millions of dollars from corporations

It's pretty simple to understand

[senz]

55. Plus, he doesn't jingle when he walks.

[seabeyond]

53. Because he was not a whore? Oh... Democratic corporate whore.

[RunInCircles]

54. No long history of trading favors for money

I am unaware that Obama traded favors for money but Hillary and Bill have taken trading favors for money to a completely shameless level.

[LexVegas]

56. He is a man. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. As a broke mrfrkr I wish folks would throw dollars at me.

I would have proudly picked up all one thousand of them.

[imagine2015]

61. Because he didn't get 150 million dollars in corporate/Wall Street speaking fees like the Clintons??

[imagine2015]

62. Because he was running against Hillary?

[treestar]

63. Or at just about every candidate who ever runs

[mcar]

66. Good question

[840high]

70. Obama did not profit personally from

speeches. He did not have a Obama Foundation that paid all his relatives.