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rachacha

(173 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:31 AM Apr 2016

Would the Hillary Victory Fund exist without Citizens United?

Does Hillary believe that the method that she's been using to buy the election should be allowed for others in the future?

It's hard to tell, because her actions seem to say she believes in big donors having a disproportionate say in our political process, but she has very consistently spoke out against Citizens United.

Edit: Looks like McCucheon v. FEC is what enabled the Hillary Victory Fund.

From Wikipedia:

Justice Thomas concurred in the judgment but wished to go further and abolish all campaign contribution limits. He wrote: "limiting the amount of money a person may give to a candidate does impose a direct restraint on his political communication." He rejected the rationale of Buckley v. Valeo that &quot a) contribution serves as a general expression of support for the candidate and his views, but does not communicate the underlying basis for the support", since "this Court has never required a speaker to explain the reasons for his position in order to obtain full First Amendment protection".

Justices Breyer, Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Kagan dissented, arguing that the decision "creates a loophole that will allow a single individual to contribute millions of dollars to a political party or to a candidate’s campaign. Taken together with Citizens United v. Federal Election Comm’n, 558 U. S. 310 (2010), today’s decision eviscerates our Nation’s campaign finance laws, leaving a remnant incapable of dealing with the grave problems of democratic legitimacy that those laws were intended to resolve."(24)


So, while it's a separate ruling that enables the Hillary Victory Fund, the more progressive supreme court justices came out against it.

Interesting.
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Would the Hillary Victory Fund exist without Citizens United? (Original Post) rachacha Apr 2016 OP
Not according to her position statements on issues at her website. KPN Apr 2016 #1
Would Sanders have won one state without CU, Rove, and the Koch Bros. help? nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #2
No need to deflect. This isn't a debate, just a question. rachacha Apr 2016 #3
Hillary would have been funded regardless. griffi94 Apr 2016 #4
No. Half-Century Man Apr 2016 #5

KPN

(15,646 posts)
1. Not according to her position statements on issues at her website.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

HRC talking out of both sides as usual.

rachacha

(173 posts)
3. No need to deflect. This isn't a debate, just a question.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

I would think it would be possible to come up with a somewhat objective answer.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
4. Hillary would have been funded regardless.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

As for whether the Hillary Fund would exist without CU.
It does exist.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
5. No.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

Which begs the question; why would anyone believe she would burn down her money funnel when she can use it to get the princess in waiting elected in 12 years?

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