2016 Postmortem
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Was a delegate for Bernie over the weekend at State Assembly.
Each and every Hillary supporter I talked with stated how happy they were that Bernie has pulled her to the left.
It should be noted that they were in the obvious minority and somewhat humbled by the experience allowing them the chance to listen and hear the arguments for Bernie.
Bernie supporters had the same chance to learn why we should and will support Hillary if she prevails at convention.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)...if she prevails at convention."
Was that before or after Ken Salazar, a Hillary supporter, was shouted down?
randr
(12,412 posts)An animated crowd chanted "change your vote" when he took the podium. After the usual Assembly hoohah he proceeded to lay out his reasons for supporting Hillary and also why he respects and admires Bernie. He presented a passionate plea for Hillary and acknowledged his support will go to the eventual Democrat winner. He was very clear that either of OUR candidates was by far superior to the Republican offerings. His speech was accepted with a round of applause followed by Bernie supporters again chanting "change your vote" making the event a delightful chance to witness Democracy in action.
merrily
(45,251 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)My, what a pleasant euphemism!
I was near the back of the room, and the conversation among that part of the crowd was not 'animated', it was downright hostile. Overheard one woman being very 'animated' with "Shut the fuck up!"
Two Bernie supporters near the stage (yes, they're friends of mine, do try to not hold that against them) were horrified and embarrassed by the disruptiveness of your 'animation.' Both are Democratic longtimers and hard workers for the party, both have participated in protests at conventions (the kind where you march around the room, working the crowd between speakers), but neither has ever harassed speakers the way your 'animated' bunch did. They, like me, are also friends with the woman who left the stage in tears thanks to your 'animated' crowd. You and yours pretty much shut down her "delightful chance to witness Democracy in action."
randr
(12,412 posts)I also heard a lot of vitriol from some Hillary fans and yes a few Bernie supporters also displayed frustrations.
I was at my first Assembly in '08 when Obama took the lead away from Hillary. This weeks affair was far tamer in respect to how the Hillary supporters "animated" their anger at that moment.
The Old Lie
(123 posts)At least his nephew Joe is the sane one.
randr
(12,412 posts)The Old Lie
(123 posts)Loves him some Joe Lieberman. Really.
randr
(12,412 posts)has accomplished more and drawn praise from diverse economical and regional interests. His voting record in the Senate holds water.
merrily
(45,251 posts)randr
(12,412 posts)My personal opinion is that many Democrats have been drawn to the center right due to political happenstance over the past two or three decades and they have developed a of fear of change.
Hillary deserves the adulation, respect, trust, and support she elicits from her fans.
We all, as American citizens, have a responsibility to ask the right questions, listen to and process the answers, and make an informed decision of who will best serve our interest.
This is the process that makes America the GREATEST experiment in human history.
Don't forget to vote.
merrily
(45,251 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)THEN JUST VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO IS ALREADY THERE! Seriously, no other narrative of this campaign has bugged me as much as this one.
randr
(12,412 posts)they will joyfully vote for Bernie over any Republican.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Anyone who believes she has actually been pulled to the left is delusional. She is pandering, that's all.
And gee- another loyalty pledge thing. Ugh. 'bye.
randr
(12,412 posts)I too was pulled to the left by Obamas' pandering.
Thank God he won!
jfern
(5,204 posts)randr
(12,412 posts)speaks otherwise. Despite all of Obama's promises and progressive enticements he chose to follow the centrist path of the party hacks in the DNC. I do not expect Hillary will be any different.