So yea. Not voting Republican.

[Phlem]

And our party has moved to the conservative right. Hillary a "progressive", Ha! Because she says so!?

Hillary Clinton’s stances, while fluid during this election cycle, are historically most in tune with classical Republican ideas, as advocated by Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, and others. As a young woman, she volunteered for the conservative Barry Goldwater, and while today she’s become liberal on some social issues, she’s generally at home with moderate conservative ideas, such as a hawkish military, strict immigration laws, reduced welfare, laissez-faire rules for Wall Street, and international business treaties that favor large corporations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/there-is-a-moderate-republican-in-this-race_b_9704194.html

[snooper2]

1. Not really, just not the far left like some would like it- Wish I didn't have phlegm though

Fucking hacking up nasty for the first hour each of the last three mornings...

at least I'm the only one sick in the house.....I just have to wipe everything I touch

[Phlem]

3. Yes really.

Let's see, from some Clinton supporters:

"Why do we have to let Independents vote, they're going to ruin my life."

"Bernie is an elitist for caring about others over himself"

and the list goes on and on.

[daleanime]

4. +1

[firebrand80]

2. That Goldwater line is nonsense

Barry Goldwater, and while today she’s become liberal on some social issues

It makes it sound as though she was a hardcore conservative when she was young, and has gradually moves to the center on social issues. That's a lie and you know it.

[Live and Learn]

5. The Clintons got more Republican legislation passed than any Republican has been able to do. nt

[BernieforPres2016]

6. Not the lesser of two evils?

Thomas Frank, from his book "Listen, Liberal:"

<Only a Democrat was capable of getting bank deregulation passed; only a Democrat could have rammed NAFTA through Congress; and only a Democrat would be capable of privatizing Social Security, as George W. Bush found out in 2005. "It's kind of the Nixon-goes-to-China theory," the conservative Democrat Charles Stenholm told the historian Steven Gillion on this last subject. "It takes a Democrat to do some of the hard choices in social programs."

To judge by what he actually accomplished, Bill Clinton was not the lesser of two evils, as people on the left always say about Democrats at election time; he was the greater of the two. What he did as President was beyond the reach of even the most diabolical Republicans. Only smiling Bill Clinton, well-known friend of working families, could commit such betrayals.>

[Dragonfli]

7. I read and largely agree with that article, Hillary is at best a Republican/Democratic hybrid /nt