Bernie Sanders wins even if he loses

[Jefferson23]

Bernie Sanders wins even if he loses
Mark Macias | @markmacias
2 Hours Ago

In politics, there is no such thing as second place, but that will change in June regardless of where Sen. Bernie Sanders finishes. Sanders wins even if he loses.

If Sanders catches Secretary Hillary Clinton in the delegate count and overcomes the super delegate obstacle, he could snag the Democratic nomination, a remarkable feat that seemed impossible just a few months ago. And even if he doesn't go on to win the general election, his nomination would change the focus of the Democratic platform and move the party further to the left over the next four to eight years.

A Sanders elevation to the top of the party would influence the near-term trajectory of the Democratic party, igniting a deeper debate on taxes, minimum wage, the environment, entitlements and the way wealth is distributed between corporations and citizens. Even the Truman Doctrine, which implies the U.S. will protect people in other countries threatened by totalitarian regimes, could be altered under a Sanders platform.

And if he goes all the way, Sanders will move the country as a whole further to the left, starting with entitlements, wages and wealth distribution. The Supreme Court will move to the left with the next two appointments that are likely to happen with the next president. Corporations can expect to immediately come under scrutiny with everything from CEO bonuses, international trade, minimum wage and health benefits. It will likely deepen the divide that already exists between Main Street and Wall Street.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/18/bernie-sanders-wins-even-if-he-loses-commentary.html

[Joob]

1. And Democrats lose being outed as Republican-Lites, hello third party.

[Jefferson23]

4. Yes, that is a very real possibility..I will only add, a viable third party can emerge. n/t

[silvershadow]

2. Premature. We are nowhere close to convention yet. nt

[Zira]

31. +1

And Hillary's numbers continue on their downward spiral that mimics her trust level.

The only thing going up about her campaign is the amount of people who won't vote for her no matter what.

[salinsky]

3. Winning!

[onehandle]

5. He'll sell a lot of books after this.

His bank account will be his biggest winner.

[Jefferson23]

6. It's cynicism like yours which further convinces me there will likely be a viable third party

to arise in the near future.

[HERVEPA]

29. Arrogant Bullshit post.

[BreakfastClub]

7. It depends how he handles his loss. If he stabs the democratic party in the back

after pretending to be a democrat so he could get "exposure" than he is a big loser. If he supports the nominee and campaigns for her, then yes, he wins even though he lost.

[Jefferson23]

8. That will be a two way street. n/t

[Maedhros]

15. "Pretending to be a Democrat" applies much more to your candidate than mine.

Democrats don't wallow in Wall Street money.

[Jefferson23]

21. They like to think of the Clinton years as enlightening or some such thing.

I look at it and want to scream.

[Maedhros]

25. Bill Clinton presided over a bubble economy that looked good at the time,

but proved to be fool's gold.

Oh, and he helped kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, undermined welfare, destroyed banking regulation, thumbed his nose at gay people, and threw working Americans under the bus by signing NAFTA.

And Sanders is 'pretending to be a Democrat.' Ignorance is the hallmark of the Clinton campaign's supporters.

[Jefferson23]

26. Exactly. n/t

[MFM008]

27. No they use their donors money

take a quickie vacay with the family to the Vatican and
eat lobster sliders and lamb on the plane.

PS: Obama took the money for democrats how did that work out?

[azurnoir]

24. Oh he has to atively campaign for her, will he get a deal for it like Hillary did from Obama?

will Bernie be our new SoS?

[COLGATE4]

9. The money shot:

" Sanders won't end up like most other presidential candidates. His voice and movement will continue to grow and evolve long after 2016."

Nope. All of the bright eyed students who are enthralled with Bernie's promises of free college will have graduated by 2020 if not before and will be doing whatever it is they're going to do in their adult lives. Bernie will be 78 by 2020, assuming he makes it that far. The Independents, Greens, Libertarians, etc. who flock to his banner now will have returned to their own tribalism, dreaming of the coming revolution which never comes. And most Democrats, once Hillary has secured the nomination will not waste their vote either by taking their ball and going home as some have suggested they do, or much less voting for Donald Trump, Ted Cruz or Jill Stein. They will support their party much as they always have and begin thinking about the midterm Congressional elections and how to get rid of the Rethug control of Congress.

So, once the election has run its course, Bernie will go back to the Senate and keep doing what he's been doing for the past 30 years - being the King of Amendments.

[Jefferson23]

10. I don't think so, although that scenario is what the DNC is hoping for. n/t

[COLGATE4]

35. We'll see. I doubt that we'll be hearing much from Bernie

once the GE is over and Hillary is elected.

[alittlelark]

34. ......

[geek tragedy]

11. I'm perfectly happy with him winning in that capacity nt

[Sheepshank]

13. I wonder at his reception when he goes back to the Senate

...no down ticket help, back to cussing out the party. I'm not saying he is as reviled as Cruz by his peers, but he didn't have a lot of cohorts before, likely to be even less now.

[Jefferson23]

19. He's never been shy calling out bad policy, nor have other Democrats. n/t

[MFM008]

28. He has 1

don't forget that 1 guy in the senate. Uh, you know... that ONE guy.

[Sheepshank]

30. can't even remember his name. n/t

[Jefferson23]

14. Very funny. n/t

[randome]

12. He will quit the Democratic Party when he concedes.

He has never had the interests of the Democratic Party in mind, from what I can tell. And it's a shame.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[Jefferson23]

16. The best interests of the Democratic Party is to elect the person best placed to fight

corruption and that is not Hillary Clinton.

[lagomorph777]

17. Agreed - Bernie has the interests of the American public in mind,

and the Party is a vehicle to further his interests.

Which is the same for almost any politician. That's how parties are supposed to work.

[oldandhappy]

32. grief

I support his issues and I consider them Dem issues. Have I got it wrong? I sit here and watch his speeches on my laptop and I cheer! If these are not Dem issues, I am sorry but I want to be what he is.

well I got lost in this stream. Thot I was responding to someone questioning if B was a D.

Please excuse me.

[Doctor_J]

18. Nah. Hillary will veer even farther to the right. She'll give SS, Medicare, what's left of our

healthcare, and the schools to her wall street pals. There will be more wars/nation building/"business opportunities" in the middle east and latin america. Her SCOTUS appointments will be middle of the road republicans or DINO's who will leave abortion alone (though Hillary is on board with restrictions) but be extremely friendly to the corporations. TPP and XL will fly through with the corresponding reduction in wages, benefits, environmental protections, and worker protections.

Not good for most of us.

[Jefferson23]

20. Then we know what will develop from that kind of administration. n/t

[Zira]

33. That is exactly what she will do.

[KoKo]

22. And, then there is this: "Who We Are" at Bernie's Back

Democracy Awakening:

Who We Are:

We’re a broad coalition of organizations representing the labor, peace, environmental, student, racial justice, civil rights and money in politics reform movements. We share a firm belief that we will not win on the full range of policy issues we all care about until we combat attacks on voting rights and the integrity of the vote by big money.

The Organizations:

http://democracyawakening.org/who-we-are/

[Jefferson23]

23. Fantastic, but everything will just go away according to some here. lol