Thanks CNN & Hillarians' for enlightening me: "Huge rallies & passionate crowds don't = "votes"

[dinkytron]

It's just so counter intuitive, it took a while to grasp. Kind of like me thinking that Bernie's monthly obliteration of campaign contribution records would translate into votes... but really doesn't. I hope Bernard changes things up soon, before its too late.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Why are there so damned many Sanders posters with really low post counts?

Did someone change their registration without their knowledge?

[geek tragedy]

2. redditors get bored in their own ecosystem, nt

[Buzz Clik]

4. ...

[beedle]

8. It's called getting people interested in politcs

.. I know, it's a bit much for Establishment types to take in, after all, too many new voices and eventually your old broken ideas will no longer be given the priority over the needs of the actual people.

Hell, if you don't like it why don't you just have their head cut off ... "royalty" can still do that, can't they?

[Buzz Clik]

35. Awesome. Kinda like the YUGE crowds at his rallies.

[dinkytron]

12. I have been here since 2001, pal.

[Buzz Clik]

15. Yes, I see that:

[dinkytron]

21. Sorry if I got a new user name. but even if I wasn't here since 01, it is so arrogant and unfriendly

of you to think you have some sort of tenure because you have been here longer than someone. What happened to the big tent concept this place used to stand for. But how can I be so shocked. The fruit does't fall far from the tree.

[dinkytron]

17. Who are you to make newbies (not me!) feel unwelcome here? You're just like your candidate.

[Buzz Clik]

18. You've been here since 2001, remember? What newbie?

[dinkytron]

25. Correct. I am not the newbie. I am just thinking of every other newbie who reads this and feels

feels unwelcome by your unfriendliness. We want people to come here, even if they have different opinion. We don't attack them because we think they have not been here long enough to have an opinion that counts.

Sorry if I point out that the media is in cahoots with your candidate. its true.

And if you really want to quiz me about my DU life?.... I remember events you don't remember... pal.

[roguevalley]

37. they don't like anyone who isn't on their side. hang the consequences. Unity is for later. maybe

[notadmblnd]

29. Possibly new voters who have become interested in politics recently?

Hard to fathom huh? I mean with HRC not needing anyone's vote and all.

I'm guessing she has other ways of winning without getting votes.

[roguevalley]

34. I was thinking the same about HRC supporters, Buzz Clik.

[Buzz Clik]

36. I hadn't noticed, but it's a legit question.

[ViseGrip]

3. Bizzare!

[GreatGazoo]

38. "Ghosts and Aqoraphobics for Hillary 2016!"

New slogan: "I'm with Her but I'm Invisible."

[oberliner]

5. Do you remember Ron Paul?

He had a similar phenomenon going for a while.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Ron Paul never came close to matching Bernie's campaign from either a popular vote, electoral or

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funding perspective.

Paul came in third in the Iowa Republican Caucus held on January 3, 2012. Out of a turnout of 121,503 votes, Paul took 26,036 (21%) of the certified votes. Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney finished in a virtual tie for first place with 25% each,[108] although Ron Paul had ultimately won Iowa at the Republican National Convention gathering 22 delegates to Mitt Romney's 5. In the New Hampshire Primary held on January 10, 2012, Paul received 23% of the votes and came in second after Romney's 39%.[109]

Paul's results then declined, despite the withdrawal of candidates Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman and Rick Perry. He had fourth-place finishes in the next two primaries, on January 21 in South Carolina (with 13% of the vote[110]) and on January 31 in Florida (where he received 7% of the vote.[111][112][113])

On February 4, Paul finished third in Nevada with 18.8% of the vote.[114] Three non-binding primaries were held on February 7; Paul took 3rd place in Colorado[115] and Missouri[116] with 13% and 12% of the vote respectively. He fared better in Minnesota[117] with 27%, finishing second to Rick Santorum.

On May 14, Paul's campaign announced that due to lack of funds (though despite financial backing from financiers Peter Thiel and Mark Spitznagel[118]) he would no longer actively campaign for votes in the 11 remaining primary states, including Texas and California, that had not yet voted.[9][119] He would, however, continue to seek to win delegates for the national party convention in the states that had already voted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

[oberliner]

14. Ron Paul Raises $6M In 24 Hours

Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul's supporters raised over $6 million Sunday to boost the 10-term Texas congressman's campaign for the White House.

Called a "Money Bomb," the goal was to raise as much money as possible on the Internet in one day. The campaign's previous fundraiser brought in $4.2 million.

At midnight EST, donations were over $6 million, according to the campaign Web site. Those donations are processed credit card receipts, said Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. Benton said the median donation is about $50 in the fundraiser, which was the idea of Paul supporters who are not officially connected to the campaign.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ron-paul-raises-6m-in-24-hours/

He would win every online poll and have massive rallies and fundraising efforts.

He definitely fizzled out but that could have been in part due to the MSM ignoring him and the internet not being as robust as it is today in terms of FB, Twitter, social media, etc.

[Uncle Joe]

19. Did Ron Paul win a single primary or caucus? n/t

[oberliner]

20. He won the most delegates in 4 states: Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, and Louisiana

Bernie has been much more successful, that's for sure.

Ron Paul, though, was someone who raised a lot of money, had big rallies, had lots of online support, which did not always translate to primary and caucus wins, which is what I thought the question was initially asking about.

[Uncle Joe]

23. Ron Paul never had the sustainable power of Bernie's message. n/t

[passiveporcupine]

22. Or the fact that he didn't appeal to Dems, only Independents n/t

[notadmblnd]

30. I don't recall anyone here advocating for Ron Paul here.

Could you point me in the direction of all those posts?

[oberliner]

33. The OP asked about: "Huge rallies & passionate crowds don't = "votes"

I was citing Ron Paul as an example of that phenomenon, not suggesting anyone here advocated for him.

He was a guy who had huge rallies and passionate crowds that did not always translate into votes.

[workinclasszero]

6. Voters beat rallies everytime :)

[haikugal]

7. And don't forget registrations can be changed and votes aren't counted. What's not to love?

Oh, and delegates can be bought.

[Snotcicles]

10. That is whats been said in the past to squelch election theft expectations. nt

[dinkytron]

13. Ding ding ding. Just listening to Asshley Banfield today made me want to projectile vomit.

Big media is in deep spin mode.

[Zira]

28. You win the car!

[sadoldgirl]

11. Yes, rallies don't count in any way!

Bernie held 3 of them in Colorado, and
looking at the results they obviously
did not work. Right?!!!

[TheSarcastinator]

16. Hillarians' New Campaign Slogans:

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Hillary 2016!

[Avalux]

24. A lie made up to counter the fact that Hillary doesn't inspire people.

This lie also - again - takes a dig at enthusiastic young people. But hey, Hillary will unite the party later.

[Zira]

26. It's all about corruption and the Super Lobby Delegates. That's what Hillary expects to win on.

That and voter suppression.

[pnwmom]

27. Earth to Bernie supporters: going to a rally isn't the same as actually voting.

You have to be a registered Democrat to participate, and many of Bernie's rally attenders are not.

[KittyWampus]

31. A lot of his campaign contributions were illegal. Yet AGAIN the FEC sent him another

letter outlining all the illegal contributions he's gotten.

I believe this is the fourth month in a row.

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/542/201603300300040542/201603300300040542.pdf

[ismnotwasm]

32. Hillary is also winning the popular vote.

The. Popular. Vote.