2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders independents are white, male, high earners and have less postive view of Obama
In part, Sanderss support among independent leaners is a product of the demographics of his coalition generally. Among Democrats and independents who lean Democratic, the independent leaners are more likely to be male, white and higher-income and at the same time, they have less positive views of President Obama.3 In short, the demographics and attitudes that tend to predict being an independent who leans Democratic are those that predict Sanders support.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-sanders-does-better-with-independents/
So why is Sanders doing so well among independents? It appears to be driven not by their ideology so much as their dislike of partisan politics
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)And just like with the unsecured server and the implications of the FBI investigation, her supporters have their heads in the sands about what having virtual NO Independent support will mean in the general election.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)themselves and know what they want. that they don't want her in historic numbers is illuminating.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Not sure if it means much when people are describing themselves. I always thought of myself as a strong democrat but not if it means I have to support Hillary.
I was an independent for about 5 seconds in the early 80s when I was breaking out of my family's conservative christian politics. It soon became clear to me that the Dems were what I believed in. Not so sure of that any more. At any rate, I voted for Bernie in my state's primary. We'll see what happens.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Hell, I'm not even considered a feminist by many even though I spend actual hours helping out at a women's shelter and spending money here in TX to fight for abortion rights. Meh...
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Universe bless ya! That can't be an easy row to hoe. You've got my respect - and I'm a Cowboys fan.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)now I told that that must include being pro-war, pro-big business, and being willing to limit our democracy.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)No idea how it happened. I guess because pragmatism. But why do we liberals always gotta pragmatize? Why, "to get things done" do WE have to give up everything?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)factfinder_77
(841 posts)Nationwide, 46 percent of people who call themselves weak Democrats were formally registered with the Democratic Party. Among those who call themselves independents who lean Democratic, the number is just 15 percent. (Looking at only states with closed primaries:5 74 percent of weak Democrats are registered Democrats, and 33 percent of independents who lean Democratic are.) So in states with closed primaries, a critical bloc of Sanderss supporters must re-register as Democrats before they are eligible to back him in the primaries. As the primary calendar switches to northeastern states, which tend to have closed primaries, that helps Clinton substantially. In New York, for instance, the deadline to change parties was back in October.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-sanders-does-better-with-independents/
daleanime
(17,796 posts)is always a good thing.
basselope
(2,565 posts)The fact that she has such weak support with democrat leaning independents is devastating. She has no appeal to REAL independents.
This is the essence of the enthusiasm gap and the reason she has no real chance of winning in November.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)Evil I tell you!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Hillary might be in trouble if that was the case.
ridgenvalley
(58 posts)This 60 year old white former Indie Bernie supporting grandma is starting to feel left out. Guess I'll have to switch to HRC.
Like, NEVER.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Your woman isn't going back to the White House.
She is not liked enough by the nation at large.
lmbradford
(517 posts)Old native american/european/german women like me.
African american women
Young people of all labels.
Can we quit with identity politics and focus on issues. That is what Sanders voters do.