I have a feeling tommorrow is going to be ugly.

[DCBob]

Hillary is going to win big and the Sanders people are not going to take it well. Also many of those Independent "Democrats" who thought they could vote will find out at the polling station they cant and that will likely become chaotic.

Should be an interesting day tomorrow. Regardless, you gotta love New York!

[restorefreedom]

1. i agree that it will be ugly, but for different reasons. nt

[geek tragedy]

2. It's gonna be fun. nt

[DCBob]

16. I cant wait.. this could be the primary that is the final straw for Bernie..

and sends Hillary to the nomination and then onto the White House.

[Chan790]

111. No. There is no chance mathematically or logically that NY is decisive. n/t

[passiveporcupine]

3. You started two identical threads

why don't you delete the one with no replies?

[DCBob]

5. Yep... deleted. Not sure how I did that.

Im a bit

[boston bean]

4. We can hope she blows him out of the water tomorrow!

[DCBob]

7. Yes, I hope so too.

So there is absolutely no doubt who won.

[NurseJackie]

8. I think she will. It's gonna be fun ...

... and for all we've had to endure in recent weeks, this victory will be even SWEETER than it would have otherwise been.

[boston bean]

11. Get ready for the camplaignts!

[NurseJackie]

12. :-)

[boston bean]

19. LMAO!!!!

[Surya Gayatri]

100. Hate barrage incoming...duck and cover. They are so laughably predictable.

[awake]

67. Please no more jokes about anybody blowing anyone

(Just trying to lighten things up before everyone get crazy for one side or the other, this has nothing to do with Bill so no need to go there ok)

[Skink]

6. Bernie seems pretty popular there

What was Hillarys biggest event there.

[DCBob]

9. Her biggest event will be tomorrow.

At the voting booths!

[NurseJackie]

18. Independent rally-goers can't vote in the NY Democratic Party Primary.

Sorry.

[boston bean]

21. It's such a shame, isn't it.

Since many of these independents seem to be sexist assholes!

[bkkyosemite]

49. Keep it up and those Independents won't vote for her in the GE if she is nominated and then

you'll be saying what what what ...........

[boston bean]

56. I don't give a shit was sexist shits do. Get it?

[TheCowsCameHome]

59. Wut?

[boston bean]

69. Huh?

[TheCowsCameHome]

73. That's what I thought when

I tried to decipher your post.

[enid602]

103. bs

BSers. Can't live with em, and can't live without em. Or so they say. . .

[NurseJackie]

68. And apparently clueless. For a group that's SO politically active (or claims to be) ...

... they certainly do have a demonstrable lack of knowledge and understanding about how things work.

I'm at a loss to explain how such a thing can be so.

[Warren DeMontague]

94. Yes, nothing says progressivism like disenfranchisement, and hoping people can't vote.

Wow, look at all the sexism!



My god, that is a lot of sexism!



WALL TO WALL MISOGYNY, I TELL YA!



Who knew Shailene woodley was such a misogynist?





There is nothing like that sort of sexism on display at Hillary's event, thankfully.

All 20 or so people - including what looks like an elementary school tour - dont seem to be doing much of anything.

[boston bean]

98. They should know.

[Warren DeMontague]

101. You seem tense.

[boston bean]

116. You seem presumptuous.

[Warren DeMontague]

119. Perhaps. All perception is a gamble, a wager, a bet. Odds, chance, probability.

I suspect Hillary will win NY tomorrow, but if she doesnt i suspect some people here are going to lose their shit... in an altogether unprecedented fashion.

[Skink]

36. Want to put some money on that?

[DCBob]

41. Im not a betting person..

but I will "eat my hat" if Bernie wins tomorrow.

[k8conant]

39. Oh, is Bill blocking them again?

[geek tragedy]

10. this isn't a battle of the bands, nt

[MFM008]

46. shame all those rally people

only seem to vote in caucus states. I've never been to a political rally and I vote.

[B Calm]

13. Bookmarking

[lumberjack_jeff]

24. +1 n/t

[Maru Kitteh]

97. Good. See you tomorrow.

[FSogol]

14. Did you see this story on Independents who registered in California?

Many American Independent Party Voters In California Are Mis-Registered

The American Independent Party calls itself "The Fastest Growing Political Party in California," but an investigation by the Los Angeles Times found a majority of voters registered with the AIP may have done so by mistake. NPR's Kelly McEvers talks with John Myers of the Los Angeles Times.

Whole story here:

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/18/474725586/many-american-independent-party-voters-in-california-are-mis-registered

and the original from the LA Times here:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04182016-are-you-an-independent-voter-you-arent-if-you-ch-1460979565-htmlstory.html

[DCBob]

20. Yep... that is one crazy situation.

That for sure wont help Bernie.

[FSogol]

22. Yeah, that's probably game over for Sanders. n/t

[Codeine]

43. Plenty of time to fix it

for people paying attention.

[FSogol]

47. That's true, the deadline to register for the primary is May 23. n/t

[Iliyah]

106. And who's fault is that? The people who just saw "Independent" and checked the box

without "reading" huh. Stop blaming problem voting on others, most are because of the person who is involved in making the decision.

How about doing some homework.

[FSogol]

107. Did I blame voting problems on "others"?

[Bluenorthwest]

15. NY turnout the last few elections has been brutally low, if people show up and vote I'll be pleased.

2014 NY was in the bottom five States for turnout, 29% with NYC only doing 20%. 2012 was just about as bad.

[DCBob]

23. This could a big one with so much at stake.

Hope so.

[Armstead]

17. This country's politics has gotten ugly. We've been selling our soul for 35 years.

And we may sell off one of the remaining parts on 2016.

And the Corporate Empires, Wall St Pigs and the 10 Percent Club will be even more fat and happy as we continue to march towards dystopia.

The remaining 90 percent? Not so much.

[DCBob]

27. I dont believe that.

I think you are going be pleasantly surprised with Hillary Clinton and her accomplishments as President. Just give her a chance. She is an amazing brilliant women.

[MFM008]

51. agreed

I will give her that chance.

[Armstead]

65. I would prefer to be proven wrong. And if in four years your are correct I will happily eat my crow

But I haven't seen many indications yet.

[RKP5637]

96. If so, I hope she can pull this country together. It's seriously fractured and the growing

and growing unrestlessness by millions and millions of all stripes will likely eventually take the US down if not healed.

[silvershadow]

28. +1

[Baobab]

105. Hillary is so amazingly pro-corporate

Why don't people look at Hillary's record at the State Department?

It was really bad. She likes to act "muscularly" but she is not equipped to deal with the aftermath.

We dont need a Hillary presidency and more endless wars. How can people vote for somebody who said yes to so many wars?

[Aerows]

25. You and I don't agree

with the candidate of choice, but the wheels came off of this mess.

This has been an odd primary season.

[DCBob]

29. Indeed is has been odd on both sides.

I will agree with on that.

[bettyellen]

40. Wheels came off and we are skidding on our asses.

Ain't THAT the truth!

[Aerows]

50. be

This primary season is so messed up I don't even think God could sort this out at this point.

[bettyellen]

53. that it is, my friend. that it is.

[NCTraveler]

26. Fun. Nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. That would really give you a tingle, wouldn't it?

[riversedge]

33. No need to throw out personal insults to the DU member.

[TheCowsCameHome]

42. You came out of the gated community for that?

[DCBob]

34. Not at all.. I would settle for a big quiet win for Hillary.

then Bernie conceding and we all sign "kum ba yah" in three part harmony.

[MFM008]

55. no we will sing after the butt hurt

till they get over it im afraid... lol

[riversedge]

31. Well, we will just stay cool. Problem solved.

[DCBob]

37. Yep.. sounds good to me!

[rhett o rick]

32. Things are going to get ugly one way or the other. If Sanders wins the nomination, the Rich Fat Cats

will pull out all stops to neutralize him. And if the Fat Cats are successful at stealing the election for their Clinton, those that have looked to this election as a change from the corruption that the Fat Cats have brought to us, are not going to "sit down and shut up" as some authoritarian leaders would like.

You can only push us so far before we push back. A Clinton presidency will only bring more poverty and joblessness.

[mythology]

118. Yes, damn those people who keep voting for her in higher numbers than they vote for Sanders

if only there was some way he could win more pledged delegates by getting more people to vote for him.

The constant claims of the election being stolen by Sanders supporters just makes you look really petulant.

[Corporate666]

122. what is it exactly

that Sanders supporters are going to do if Hillary wins?

If you are against poverty and joblessness, you don't want a Sanders presidency.

He can't get any of his agenda passed, and if he did, the cost would be astronomical and send the job market reeling, sending millions of jobs overseas. Meanwhile, low income consumers would be the hardest hit with huge inflation, higher prices on goods they use every day, higher energy costs, and perhaps worst of all, much higher taxes.

[mcar]

35. K&R

[bettyellen]

38. I read crap suggesting people who did not change their registration go and try to vote anyway....

and say their change papers got lost in the mail. Sounds like they want to contest the results.
WTF happened to their integrity?

[DCBob]

45. I am sure they will.

It will be a form of protest. I hope the polling stations are prepared for this.

[Codeine]

48. I think they'll rapidly discover

that New York has exactly zero fucks to give about their ignorant bullshit.

[ridgenvalley]

44. Nonsense.

You're like the MSM, trying to overdramatize to get ratings. This Bernie supporter will cheerfully let you enjoy the win, even while aware that it'll likely herald a Dem loss in November.
But by all means, enjoy yourselves while you can.

[DCBob]

54. There will be drama.. trust me.

The die-hard Bernie folks will make sure of that.

[noretreatnosurrender]

58. With a little help from

some Clinton folks who will gloat? Let's not pretend that the drama is only on one side my friend.

[DCBob]

61. The only drama on our side will be the excitement of knowing Hillary is actually going to win this.

That is truly a dramatic exciting development!

[noretreatnosurrender]

62. Sorry

but I've seen the gloating on election night from both sides depending upon who won. Surely you don't deny this?

[DCBob]

63. Some will gloat.

But I dont think that's good idea. We dont want to rub salt in the wounds. At some point we are going to need to come together to defeat the real enemy.. the GOP.

[noretreatnosurrender]

66. I agree

it's never a good idea to gloat but it will happen no matter who wins.

[Brother Buzz]

52. I have a feeling the polls are going to be proven to be spot on - Nothing more, nothing less

[Skink]

60. Bernie 54 Hillary 46

But as always Hillary will draw even in delegates.

[Brother Buzz]

64. LOL, I guess I've been reading bogus NY polls out here on the Left Coast

[Trust Buster]

57. I predict that the H-train will keep rolling down the tracks. Final destination:1600 Pennsylvania Av

[DCBob]

72. You bet..

[Skink]

104. I like the fact that DC supports the Hill

As a total Bernie supporter and registered dem I will vote Hillary because she supports the ACA. I am a one issue voter at this late stage of my life. But let me say again Bernie Bernie!

[Marrah_G]

70. I think this is just your own sick fantasy

[DCBob]

71. Sick??

Ugly comment. Get lost.

[frylock]

75. The OP was ugly.

[DCBob]

77. It was not.

[frylock]

78. "Hillary is going to win big and the Sanders people are not going to take it well."

You want to talk shit and then take offense when it's returned in kind. It's the modus operandi of Hillary Supporter.

[DCBob]

79. Huh??

That's a reasonable statement and will likely be true.

How is that anything like calling someone "sick"??

You have now entered bizarro world.

[FSogol]

117. Sick = stating an opinion that they don't want to hear.

[Marrah_G]

82. Yes sick

It is sick to find joy in the upset of others. If Hillary loses I sure as heck wouldn't be thrilled at the feeling of loss that fellow Duers were feeling.

[DCBob]

85. You are confused.

My joy is in Hillary winning.

Take your crappy insulting comments elsewhere.

[Corporate666]

123. Nonsense

It's human nature to revel in winning.

Haven't you ever seen.... oh, any sports team's fans, ever? Or any sales person ever? Or any parent of any child, ever?

You are happy when you and yours win. But that *always* means someone else lost. Someone else didn't get the Stanley Cup. someone else didn't get the commission from the sale. Some other kid didn't get into that college or get that scholarship.

When the competition is head-to-head, as it is in primaries, you want your opposition to lose. That's the only way to win. It's not sick at all. It's what winning is about.

[sadoldgirl]

74. I will repeat this: If she wins as she did in AZ

She can kiss the GE good night.

[DCBob]

76. What the heck are you talking about??

[SHRED]

80. Another way to bash Bernie supporters

Nice.

[DCBob]

81. Where's the bash??

Please explain oh "Bash Master".

[SHRED]

83. "Ugly" "not take it well"

Insinuating they are too dumb to know Independents can't vote for Dems in NY primary.

[DCBob]

86. That's a bash??

Good grief.. that's baby stuff compared to what you Bernie people post here.

[SHRED]

87. "You Bernie people"

You're blind to your own broad brush condescension.

[DCBob]

89. LOL..

I have been called sick and a DINO and all sorts of nasty stuff on this board. Grow up dude.

[SHRED]

91. "Grow up dude"

You just can't stop.

[DCBob]

93. Ok.. "please be more mature about this"

How's that?

[SHRED]

95. You can try to go find where I ...

...lumped all of Hillary's supporters together like you have with Bernie's.

I'll wait.

[brooklynite]

84. I don't think tomorrow is going to be stressful in any way...

I think NY DEMOCRATS are going to show up and vote for a mainstream Democrat they twice elected as Senator, and the Sanders folks will show up, vote, and lose.

[DCBob]

88. That's a nice clean way of putting it.

You really think the Bernie folks will just show up and vote and lose and that's it?

[brooklynite]

90. Yes, I do...

...notwithstanding Reddit, I don't think people are going to show up to vote and find themselves ineligible. And those who actually show up and vote will accept the outcome.

I learned long ago not to confuse online bloggers with reality.

[DCBob]

92. We shall see.. I hope you are right.

[Iliyah]

108. NYPD don't play neither

and they shouldn't. I hope things are fairly calm on 4/19.

[IamMab]

99. Wait, you mean the NY Legislature didn't STOP EVERYTHING and pass a law letting indies vote?

Who could have foreseen such an outcome?

[thebeautifulstruggle]

102. Ma lot of crappy posts in this thread

Especially the ones gloating about NY's restrictive voting laws

8 freaking months before the election to change party affiliation is just corrupt

[Iliyah]

110. But its NY's rule. Now you know.

[Chan790]

109. I don't think it'll be as decisive as you think. That's a bad thing.

Apparently, to close this race out in advance of the convention, Hillary needs to win the remaining primaries by better than 60-40 on average...or else we're going to a floor-vote nomination and SuperD's.

If that happens...she has no path to the White House. The anti-Clinton rage will not only sink her candidacy but have negative Democratic coattails, cost us the Senate and move the House away from us. At some point, the right thing has to Trump her ambitions (Pun intentional. That's why I capitalized Trump.) motivating her to drop out before she leads us to annihilation.

I don't think Clinton supporters grasp how much and how universally everybody that isn't a Clinton supporter hates Hillary's guts. I saw a guy selling his paintings today of Hillary's portrait with a Hitler mustache...and the line was at-least 20 people long...in the bluest suburbs of Hartford, the most-Democratic leaning part of a Democrat-dominated state. You can't think that's a good omen.

[Iliyah]

112. False.

It's BS that needs that margin.

[Chan790]

115. Nope. Robert Reich, who showed his math, was clear that it was Clinton...

that needed that margin of remaining pledged delegates to win the nomination without superdelegates.

[Recursion]

120. He needs that to get the majority of pledged delegates

Clinton needs (roughly) that same margin to get an absolute majority via pledged delegates.

[anamnua]

113. A good political maxim

Never get too cocksure with victory or too despondent with defeat.

[workinclasszero]

114. Bernie thinks so too.

He hightailed it out of town under cover of darkness without so much as a thank you to his fans.

[mhatrw]

121. AND OLIGARCHIC VOTER SUPPRESSION WILL WIN THE DAY!

HOORAY!!!