2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDo you think New York is intentionally changing the voter registration info of Bernie supporters?
So they can't vote for Bernie in the primary?
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Yes | |
15 (47%) |
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No | |
17 (53%) |
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bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)brooklynite
(94,728 posts)dchill
(38,532 posts)No...
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)You really have no idea, do you?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)That is where she has fundraised the best (she represents the 1%, after all). Maybe you can point out the Manhattan zip code where he has outpaced her in donations?
Here's a link, happy hunting: https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20160308/great-kills/map-see-which-presidential-candidate-your-neighborhood-supports
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)more traditionally strong Dems, less Indy voters and upper middle class. Staten Island is so friggen republican it doesn't matter. I am not saying Manhattan is definitely for Bernie, I am just saying it is the best shot he has in NYC.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)There are a lot of documented cases.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Assuming the voter is registered Dem.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)screwed up their registrations. I saw 30K voters off the rolls- now people are saying 300K- which I think is bullshit.
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)I don't see how they would know who supports who on a widescale basis. I think Hurricane Sandy is responsible for a lot of it. Do we know if anyone upstate has complained of vote switching?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)unc70
(6,120 posts)Between polling of all sorts, campaign contributions and participation, past election data, and online tracking systems, campaigns have a really good idea how various voters are likely to vote.
The commercially available data profile of each of us is enormous.
Whether someone used some of that data for mischief is a bigger question.
Time for change
(13,718 posts)113 voters who intended to vote for Bernie who had been purged, and only 2 who intended to vote for Hillary. It's difficult for me to fathom such results without thinking that his database of supporters was cracked and tartgeted for purging. I believe that the same thing would be found by a similar investigation in NY.
https://anonymousinvestigationsblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/anonymous-report-was-arizonas-voter-registration-database-hacked/
think
(11,641 posts)from the roles since November.
You think this is normal?
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)See What This Judge Comes Up With Tomorrow... Anyone have history/background on the assigned Judge?
spin
(17,493 posts)and at times it coughs and sputters but it still has the ability to roll over Bernie.
Loudestlib
(980 posts)ecstatic
(32,731 posts)hopefully forces them to see how ridiculous some of their suspicions are. Or maybe not...
This poll is illuminating.
A push poll is an interactive marketing technique, most commonly employed during political campaigning, in which an individual or organization attempts to influence or alter the view of voters under the guise of conducting a poll.
In a push poll, large numbers of voters are contacted briefly (often less than 60 seconds), and little or no effort is made to collect and analyze response data. Instead, the push poll is a form of telemarketing-based propaganda and rumor mongering, masquerading as a poll. Push polls may rely on innuendo or knowledge gleaned from opposition research on an opponent.
Push polls are generally viewed as a form of negative campaigning.[1] Indeed, the term is commonly (and confusingly) used in a broader sense to refer to legitimate polls that aim to test negative political messages.[2] Future usage of the term will determine whether the strict or broad definition becomes the most favored definition. However, in all such polls, the pollster asks leading questions or suggestive questions that "push" the interviewee towards adopting an unfavourable response towards the political candidate.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)..are doing everything they can to create an environment favorable for a Hillary win. I don't put anything past these people.
msongs
(67,441 posts)oh wait there is no way for her to know who is and is not bernie voters. oops, the cult's conspiracy goes up in smoke
unc70
(6,120 posts)While that does not mean that this information was used to do a selective voter update / purge, it is technically quite straightforward.
RandySF
(59,225 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Parties buy those lists from election offices. They don't tap into official voter roles.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm not saying that this is what happened in NY but my point is valid.
The firewall between both candidates systems has gone down multiple times.
RandySF
(59,225 posts)The DNC does not interface with election offices. They but the information and develop their own databases.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)If that list was given to someone who had access.
It's highly unlikely but not impossible.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)were going to vote for and are all for getting to the bottom of what the hell is going on. I hope that answers your question. EVERY Democrat should be upset about this as it's not a political football. Thank you.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)But I believe it should be investigated. Whether intentional or not, it shouldn't be occurring.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)must be normal.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)A voter who is listed as active appears in the poll site books when he or she shows up to vote in an election. A voter is moved to inactive status for several reasons, including not voting in two federal elections (i.e. in the last four years), and if a reminder notice mailed by the Board is returned to the borough office as an undeliverable address.
But even though more than 60,000 people were dropped from the list of active registered Democrats in Brooklyn, there was only an increase of roughly 10,000 inactive voters in the county. That means some 50,000 voters are unaccounted for entirely.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/democratic-voter-rolls-drop-more-60000-brooklyn-presidential-primary/
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)leans yes/leans no
I'm leaning yes but I don't have enough information to be confident enough for a full yes.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)... would *refrain* from election fraud if it thinks it can get away with it.
PATRICK
(12,228 posts)to assume they are any good at it or as wizardly organized as people fret about. This is a lazy machine assuming bi-partisan gridlock makes the grease that turns the wheels is better than dominating the state, that the majority Dem population makes a cozy dependable predictable bunch- so much so that often they let the GOP win a lot. Not quite the imposing apparatus of NYC Tammany Hall of old.
I would be intensely interested in this as a matter of testing the party in a state government that has been considered extremely dysfunctional, pay to play, and always part controlled by the idiotic GOP. Except that there is so much at stake for more than the vast majority of voters would even allow themselves to imagine it will be more a judgment on behalf of the entire human race.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... so that county election clerks flip registrations. And it's fine tuned and targeted so that the clerks are able to divine which registered Dems are Bernie supporters and ONLY flip those.
It's amazing! Hillary can do ANYTHING!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Results of this poll are crazy.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And even if they aren't joking... even if they're genuinely sincere ... they're STILL not to be taken seriously for obvious reasons.