2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Hillary Was Nowhere to Be Seen in the Fight for 15—I Should Know"
Hillary Was Nowhere to Be Seen in the Fight for 15I Should Know: Hillarys support is welcome, and a sign that our movement has come far, but lets be clear: She hasnt always supported a $15 minimum wage.
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-was-nowhere-to-be-seen-in-the-fight-for-15-i-should-know/
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)it's "grandstanding".
dchill
(38,532 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)No need to be surprised, it's her nature to put political expediency above all else, including integrity.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
Baobab
(4,667 posts)after an election. Nor is there any law that they have to tell the truth.
its all a big game for them with people's lives.
People don't own this country, corporations do.
So THEY are getting rights to sue the taxpayers.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)KPN
(15,650 posts)something like $10 initially -- to pacify them. After Bernie got traction she came up with the "I prefer to be realistic and therefore support and will do everything I can to fight for a $12 minimum wage!"
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Hats off to Kshama Sawant, a courageous trailblazer and truth teller.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)It's embarrassing.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)Seems to happen a lot with the Secretary.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)minimum of $15 is optional and not required so some cities and stated can have less and if the republicans agree with it so it is bipartisan, well okey dokey a not mandatory $15 minimum. see how easy that is, I got it from from Pro-Clinton Slate (not pro-sanders salon - hee) but hey she kind of sort of supports it. if it is not mandatory.
Hillary Clinton Finally Explains What It Would Take for Her to Support a $15 Minimum Wage
Impedimentus
(898 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)I couldn't decipher what the fuck she said. The only time in a debate when I'm sure what she means is when she uses President Obama as a human shield.
kaleckim
(651 posts)how much specificity matters (LOL!). Do they have uniform standards, cause her explanations are muddled at best? Kind of obvious that she answers something that doesn't really clarify anything, her advisers meet with her to feed her talking points (surely based on the best polls on the issues that money can buy), and she tries to explain her position better, and often with top, lawyer crafted answers that often allow her to change positions later. For example, when she comically tried to say that guns from Vermont were a huge problem in NY, she had to throw in per capita numbers, which is horribly manipulative. That doesn't always work, and you saw Sanders call her out for it during the debate, so the process starts again. Somehow, her followers miss this. Mao ain't got nothing on that hero worship.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)And she supports $15 minimum in places that can afford it. Some places can't.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/17/hillary-clinton-minimum-wage-cities-states-small-businesses
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/money/9-ways-hillary-clintons-financial-plan-may-affect-your-wallet
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Jobs.htm
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:13 AM - Edit history (1)
the conversation is on a federal minimum wage, not anything else - so just say she does not support it - but NNOooOOOOooOOOoo she has to try and make it confusing.