2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRALPH NADER: Bernie Sanders does not answer my calls
Ralph Nader had some interesting insights into both Bernie and Hillary way back in May of 2015.
Here are some excerpts from his Democracy Now interview:
About Sanders:
About Clinton:
Here's the whole interview:
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/18/ralph_nader_on_bernie_sanders_presidential
still_one
(92,394 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)For what that is worth.
still_one
(92,394 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Like Bernie's, they look pretty good. in other words, we Democrats would have been wise to be more like him rather than the other way around, position wise.
Ralph Nader has opposed the trade deals from the beginning, and his organization has been the most consistent and reliable opponent of them in the US and perhaps the world.
A lot of what I learned about their problems I learned at citizen.org (I just wish their site was better organized, if it was it would be a formidable resource)
IamMab
(1,359 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)in this election cycle.
"My mistake was trying to destroy the Democrats as an Independent. What he's doing is genius!"
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Wonder why that is?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)On Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:50 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
I wonder if Ralph is bitter or respectful of Bernie's out-Nadering him
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1777329
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Falsely attributed quote (one return from Google: this thread) to Nader to attack Sanders as a person attempting to destroy the Democratic party. These trolling attempts by poster make DU suck - worse when people take his bait and get their own posts hidden which is his favorite game to play.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)away for it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids."
yodermon
(6,143 posts)appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Don't you think?
he always has been on top of this, plus he more than most of us knows the backstory, which is rooted in trade policy.
Thats also why we shouldnt vote for her, that would would be seen elsewhere as an endorsement of a ton of policy that Americans have not been told about for the simple reason that we would almost all of us disagree with it. It would hurt us economically and not do its stated goal which is to help poor people in poor countries, instead it will help rich people in rich countries and rich people in poor countries.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)All he would hear from me is a loud "CLICK!"
If he called back, he would hear a loud, "ASSHOLE!" Then a loud "CLICK!" And then, repeat as necessary.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)His idea of united progressive members of Congress around a caucus seems like a good one.
longship
(40,416 posts)That's because of 2000 when he set the progressive movement back years and years!
And if he calls again, he gets the "FUCKING ASSHOLE! CLICK!" Treatment.
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Which is understandable
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Try texting.