2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoward Dean: ['I'm getting all these messages and tweets'] It's not helpful
First off, they are NOT from Bernie, which he also said.
Second, why repeat this attack on MSM? Why drive the wedge further?
So ya, Howard, it is not helpful to the party that you continue to remark on 'attacks' towards you from Bernie supporters.
Who is getting personal here?
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the same.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)I feel like crying. Method.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It is hardly coercion.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)He represents nobody but himself nowadays. He is not beholden to any voters. That's not the problem with this particular SD, though.
However, he is a great example of what is wrong with the superdelegate system. His vote counts significantly more - 1000s of times more - than the average voter.
beedle
(1,235 posts)At the very least the Democratic Party should remove the word "Democratic" from its title.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Our party, our rules.
Don't like it, work to change it, or move on, but in this election, his vote is his own, and he owes no one an explanation.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)in response to anything but the approved course of action.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)coerce:
2 : to compel to an act or choice <was coerced into agreeing>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coerce
One might feel "compelled" upon hearing a convincing argument: I felt compelled to change my vote.
Or - I felt compelled because they guilt-tripped me...
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Words matter, and the two things have different meanings.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)The definition I provided seems to indicate that what you stated - as fact - is not necessarily true:
2 : to compel to an act or choice <was coerced into agreeing>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coerce
Where is the violence?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Have I got that right?
Sid
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Yea, we hit you ... but why are you telling people we hit you??!!!????
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Uh-huh.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Fixed that for you.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Ok.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It's a reality. People don't want him being a mouthpiece or SD and feel the need to voice their concerns. He's being a bit of a baby. If you can't stand the heat...
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)of the people.
2banon
(7,321 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)Well, he has excellent company.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I haven't the slightest idea what this stupidity is about
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)When your feelings are hurt, making that public is going to elicit all sorts of shite from both sides. But, objectively, there is nothing here to talk about, yet he continues. So sad.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Is most helpful...
closeupready
(29,503 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)if you cannot handle the supporters of a candidate that agrees with your candidate on 90% of the issues....
how the hell are you going to deal with Trump supporters who actually follow up on their demands & agree with you on NOTHING??
It makes you look weak & incompetent!!
And if you follow it up with "Well Bernieeee and his supporters are hurting Hillary, they need to stop it" and you don't think someone from the Trump campaign is reading your tweets and op-eds, hahaha. I have a bridge to sell you.
Grow a spine ffs!!
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)That's Howard. He want's the big bully establishment to like him. Asshat.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)And I won't spend a dime on his ownership. For he is well and truly owned.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Super delegates don't "represent people" I'm not elected by anyone. I'll do what I think is right for the country - Howard Dean
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)He is now being contacted by by people using the art of lobbying.
Lobbying (also lobby) is the act of attempting to influence decisions made by officials in a government, most often legislators or members of regulatory agencies.
Not sure if he sees the irony.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)supporters are doing and some are turning away from Bernie.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)thin skins need not apply.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)supporters who are very angry at your flip on the issues. They were your supporters.