Per CNN, the Clinton campaign has now said Sanders is destructive ...

[slipslidingaway]

the same network that said the Clinton campaign would seek to disqualify, defeat and then unify the party later after the Wisconsin primary.

The next day we saw the Clinton campaign try and push the disqualify agenda and tonight they began to try and unify the party for a few hours.

But late in the night after a victory for Clinton they now put out the word that Sanders is destructive.

[grasswire]

1. yep, they started this yesterday

I've seen half a dozen of her surrogates pushing that hard.

Hold on Bernie, hold on.

[slipslidingaway]

8. Missed that, guess they were in the unify and destroy mode sooner than I thought ...

happy he gets to sleep in his own bed tonight

Two rallies in Pa on Thursday.

http://map.berniesanders.com/

[tex-wyo-dem]

71. The Hillary campaign is as good at projection as...

Any Repub...

She is the one who is destructive...

If she is the nominee, the GOP will have a field day with the unlimited portfolio they have on her, if she doesn't get indicted first.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Well, that will sure help unify the party and get all the Sanders supporters

to fall in line for Hillary.

Right...

[slipslidingaway]

11. Sure will ...

two in our family of four have already that they will not vote for Clinton.

She might win the nomination, but I have said before this is the Dems election to lose. Even Repub friends and family would vote for Sanders, but not Clinton.

[LibDemAlways]

56. The Hillary campaign is absolutely counting on Bernie

voters to shut up and get in line. The likelihood of that happening on a large scale is nil. The Hillary machine is completely tone deaf. People aren't supporting Bernie for any other reason than that they agree with his message -- corrupt oligarchs are in charge and running the country for the benefit of the enrichment of the 1%. Switching from Bernie to Hillary would require agreeing that it's ok that the ordinary guy is getting screwed and that the fucking should continue unabated for another 4 years. No thanks.

[boston bean]

3. His campaign is at this point.

[Silver_Witch]

32. No actually he is NOT....

...and he does not have to stop running until the campaign is over - sometime after last primary in June.

Then he, just like Hillary did, can determine to politely step aside.

Then Hillary can move even more to the right to try and win over the Republicans.

[winter is coming]

4. If only he would do something constructive...

like hold a high-dollar fundraiser to "benefit Dems" but pocket most of the money for his own campaign.

[slipslidingaway]

12. That is the ticket! :) nt

[Skwmom]

5. The Clintons have been smearing Bernie but don't tell the truth about the Corporate Queen. Leave

that to Trump.

[slipslidingaway]

17. But they do it in such an artful ...

or some might say underhanded way with the help of the corporate media.

[Carolina]

52. Bingo

The corporate queen $hillary always shows her nasty side when challenged in the primaries. I don't understand how so many are annestic about 2008 and the vitriol she/her surrogates have spewed this time

[Marrah_G]

6. Good way to get us to support you Clinton

Way to make me want to give you time and money for november.

If Trump was not so fucking scary I would probably not vote at all.

[slipslidingaway]

20. No way I would give money or time ...

and I know too many people who would never vote for her. We better hope Trump is not as scary and moves left!

[Jitter65]

7. He is destructive and so are many of his supporters. People see that and they don't like it. nt

[grasswire]

9. LOLOLOL

I guess you have missed the yuge crowds he's drawing.

[msanthrope]

14. Not to the polls....nt

[.99center]

62. At least 750,000

Voters tonight say otherwise.

[slipslidingaway]

21. Clinton does not need our votes in the GE, we got it! nt

[Livluvgrow]

10. Fall in line

That is the funniest thing I have heard. No Democrat I know plans on falling in line. Time for the chorus of an independent run to grow. Reach out if you must but you will only grab air.

[slipslidingaway]

23. We'll see how that plays out, many younger and also older people will not be swayed ...

and her campaign is not helping!

[Bodhi BloodWave]

43. i miss the old DU

where i often could see this line in different variations

I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat.

Going by some of the DU members of today those days seem long gone

[slipslidingaway]

72. The old DU, when I joined, was quite different! nt

[Barack_America]

13. Unity is not possible. They should just let Clinton tack to her natural right...

...and try to pick up disgruntled Republican voters. She'll have better luck with them than the Left.

[slipslidingaway]

25. Think you are correct, many younger voters will stay home. nt

[Carolina]

53. and some older ones, too

This boomer will never vote for HRC.

[slipslidingaway]

73. Definitely, been there, done that and it has not worked for decades ...

one great thing is that many boomers and millennials are uniting for a common cause

[amborin]

15. what a laugh! HRC's campaign has been smearing & swiftboating Bernie since the start

[slipslidingaway]

26. You are correct, but HRC has the corporate media to cover for her. Thanks for all your informative..

posts, subjects that the mainstream corporate media will not touch!

[appalachiablue]

82. CNN's owner, Time Warner is Hillary's 7th largest Donor. That's very significant

so don't expect much resembling unbiased coverage with that financial $$$ arrangement.

[uponit7771]

16. Destructive is using Trump GOP talking points

[slipslidingaway]

27. No GOP talking points here. nt

[Upward]

18. I Don't Know If Bernie's Destructive

But his troops sure are.

[slipslidingaway]

30. Well I could say the same for Hillary troops and many people do not trust her which spells trouble

in the GE.

For her campaign to say that Sanders is destructive does not help!

[Sheepshank]

19. I don't know where CNN comes up with some of their shit

...but I have certainly felt that way for quite some time.

More importantly BS supporters had embraced the concept of dismantling the Democratic Party and have said the party is not worth saving and needs to be demolished.

So now are they going to walk that back and act wounded and offended?

[slipslidingaway]

47. It was Jeff Zeleny on CNN that reported the Clinton strategy to disqualify, defeat and unify the...

later.

But here is the thing, the Clinton campaign NEVER called him out on that quote, instead they next day Clinton surrogates started doing exactly that ... seeking to disqualify all day long! The Clinton campaign COULD have said it was a false a statement, but they did not.

It was not until Sanders replied in a campaign speech saying well if 'they think I am disqualified then maybe we should question her qualifications. That is how the whole 'not qualified' meme started, but the Clinton campaign never refuted that strategy instead they began to implement the disqualify portion of the strategy.

When Sanders responded the media ran with the simple idea that Sanders stated Clinton is not qualified. Sanders is not going to sit down when being punched by a number of surrogates, but the media ran with the short version.

Now tonight CNN stated that the communications director for Clinton said that Sanders is destructive, surprising they should do so after a win in NY and if they want to truly unify the party?

Many younger people do not as easily identify with a party, which personally I think is a good thing, they look at issues and support or not support a candidate accordingly.

We really need to break the 'my team' right or wrong mentality. People are suffering, the middle class is shrinking and that disproportionately affects minorities.

He has many garnered the support of many independents, we should not dismiss those voters.

[Skid Rogue]

22. No, that's not what she said...

She said, he has a choice to make.

[slipslidingaway]

48. Link? nt

[Waiting For Everyman]

24. What they say is nothing but spin -- it's meaningless.

This is one closed primary that went within the bounds expected. The only newsworthy thing, is the election irregularities, which I'm sure we will be hearing more about.

But the General Election is not Dems-only as this primary was, it is largely up to Independents (40% of the electorate), which Hillary bombs with horribly. THAT is the relevant point. Sanders hits it out of the park with Independents, and will continue to do so.

It's just another predictable day on the road to the convention.

Meanwhile, back at the FBI and DoJ... people are busy working on something that we'll see at some point.

My advice would be... don't listen to what the groupies and paid-off pundits are saying -- that will be all talking points and spin (a.k.a lies). "Trash Can" the flame bait threads, and it's on with the next primaries. It isn't just about math as they like to insist, it's also psychological, just like the stock market. The interplay among people and the way people are deceived or not will determine how this goes... one hand played at a time until the cards are all dealt.

[demwing]

36. yep

[JDPriestly]

46. Excellent post.

[slipslidingaway]

50. It is meaningless except for the fact we'll hear for the next week from the corporate media

that Sanders is by being destructive and hurting the Dem party. They have already started that line of attack and we'll see and hear more of that in the days leading up to the next primaries.

Here is the great part, millennials are not watching the spin and they are a much larger force than the boomers

They can make or break this in November, in my calls many were not happy that they missed the October 9th deadline, but they are registered for November. Question is will they be inspired to vote for a party instead of a person? We'll see.

[Waiting For Everyman]

74. We don't have to care what they say, or accept it as true.

We can trash can the thread, or change the channel. We can say, "your talking points are fake non-issues, buzz off!"

Sanders has a right to run for office, and that's just what he's doing. He doesn't have to cater to what's convenient for some other candidate. It isn't over until it's over, which is when: either Bernie decides to quit, or when a nominee is chosen at the convention.

And if Hillary or the party doesn't like that, so what? Why should Bernie or his supporters care what she or they like? If she and they didn't want"destructive" topics brought up, then maybe she and they shouldn't have done the actions that those topics are about?

As I see it Hillary is destroying the party by insisting on running while under active FBI investigation! She should withdraw, for the good of the party.

And I'll add this: if Bernie wasn't protecting the party right now, which he has no obligation to do, he could be hammering her about those active investigations and 30+ active civil suits, all of which are based on her CORRUPT AND NEGLIGENT BOTCHING of her last job which he has not even mentioned except once on Morning Joe. Even Joe says that Bernie should bring that up, btw.

And maybe he should bring it up. Because otherwise she isn't vetted, as she is wrongfully assumed to be. She is the one not vetted because Sanders has chosen not to bring up her legal issues.

No matter how much Hillary complains, I wouldn't pay it any mind. All it needs is to point out how childish and inappropriate it is, and ignore it.

Bernie doesn't owe Hillary or the party even as much consideration as they are already getting. If they were smart, they should be cool while that undeserved forbearance holds. Stupidly "poking the bear" might get them a lot more of exactly what they're complaining about.

Personally, I think it's "kill it or cure it" time for the party. It's time for it to either get straightened out, or lose the power it's got.

[slipslidingaway]

79. I totally agree, but also believe we need to be prepared for the next onslaught against Sanders ...

it will be interesting to see which direction he takes on Thursday. The idea that the Repub is fracturing gets traction in the media, but people seem to be blind that the Dem party is also on shaky ground.

[Aerows]

28. Clinton is desperate to focus on the GE

Bernie still in the game has to be extremely concerning for her.

Every single second, though, that she is not allowed to pivot to the right is a win for the left.

[slipslidingaway]

51. True, but I do not trust her to stay left! nt

[riversedge]

35. Sounds Republicanish--Will you make them sign and date this pledge also?

[demwing]

31. Tomorrow I go down to the Library, and update my voter registration

for the first time in my 53 years I wont be registered as a Dem. I look around, but I don't recognize the party that raised me. Tired of supporting a party that is, from an economic justice perspective, morally corrupt.

My primary is over. Nothing to keep me. No reason to look back.

[slipslidingaway]

54. You are not alone, we have switched from Dem to independent or not affiliated a few times ...

for the exact reasons you cite, they left me.

Since we do not vote until June and we have closed primaries we are hoping to get a chance to vote

Tomorrow we begin to call the April 26th states!

[timlot]

33. Reads like Faux Outrage

Corporate Whore, Making it rain dollar bills, Unqualified

[riversedge]

34. Sanders is self-destructive.

[jillan]

37. Nothing like sore winners to unite the party.

[slipslidingaway]

55. Yes, why not just enjoy the night? Yes, sore winners :) nt

[xloadiex]

38. To think it only took a completely closed primary

and massive voter suppression/disenfranchise for her to "win" tonight the state where she was a senator for 8 years. That's not saying much.

Onward with Bernie!

[slipslidingaway]

57. NY is the worst state and longest time to switch, but onward! nt

[yodermon]

39. She should just ignore him at this point instead of lashing out. n/t

[slipslidingaway]

59. Exactly, why alienate potential voters, makes no sense except they just want to bury him quickly. nt

[fun n serious]

40. To all Bernie suppoters

Do you want to destroy the democratic party? Answer honestly. If not Bernie than destroy?

[Marrah_G]

41. This Bernie supporter would like to tell you to go jump in a lake

Shame on you

[fun n serious]

42. It's a valid question..

I have seen people here on DU say it.

[Marrah_G]

44. Go away- you are hurting your own candidate

[slipslidingaway]

63. You are not helping! People's lives are being destroyed, I had a 15 minute call yesterday ...

longest call I have ever had.

Unfortunately his polling place did not open until 12 and he needed to leave by 12:30 to report for work in the city and he would not make it home before 9 to vote.

He bought his home near the height of the RE boom and is now under water, he was not happy with the mortgages that were sold and in many cases pushed to people by corporations looking to make a quick buck.

Honestly I could care less about a party, I care more for our nation and a shrinking middle class and how we survive in a global economy and the need to lift all people of our nation.

[JDPriestly]

45. I guess it depends on your point of view.

I and other Sanders fans are forming a movement that will support Sanders if he is elected president and present our views and our demands to any other person who may be elected president.

I personally do not think the Hillary can or will win the presidency. That's my opinion. She may or may not win the nomination. There are a lot of states including Oregon (which will probably be solidly Bernie and California which will also be Bernie) to go.

New York is important if you are on the East Coast, but the fact is that Bernie won a lot of delegates tonight, and more importantly has gained a lot of name recognition and votes for his stances on the issues.

If Bernie is not the next president, the next president will have to deal with a growing and well organized group of voters who are, for the most part, well educated and determined to prevent any president or Congress from passing or signing legislation like that signed between Reagan and the present with a few exceptions including the ACA.

The movement that is supporting Bernie is not going away. It started during the Bush administration, gained momentum during the Occupy period and is just beginning to feel its power.

So whoever is elected president, be prepared. The Bernie bros are not going away.

We are going to change things. We are FDR Democrats, and we are going to change things. No doubt about it.

[slipslidingaway]

64. I agree with everything you said, this movement is building and we are not going away! nt

[ThePhilosopher04]

49. She has zero shot to win the general. NONE!

[slipslidingaway]

65. I'll go with a slim chance :) nt

[bbgrunt]

58. tonight I weep for my country.

[slipslidingaway]

66. But we'll move forward to the next states :) nt

[Blue Meany]

60. The Hillary campaign would be wise to learn that just as many people see attacks on Hillary

as attacks on women more generally, many progressives see attacks on Bernie the same way. If she wants to purge the party of progressives, she heading in the right direction, but it not a very good electoral strategy.

[slipslidingaway]

68. So true, calling Sanders destructive is not a good strategy! nt

[Bonobo]

61. We shall see if they come to regret those words. nt

[slipslidingaway]

69. We're waiting for the unify part, still in the destruction phase. nt

[Kalidurga]

67. Nah Bernie doesn't vote to cluster bomb cities for no reason.

[slipslidingaway]

70. Those are wicked bombs, how can one say they care about children :( nt

[Kalidurga]

78. It's easy for people who are liars to their core. nt

[MadBadger]

75. That is exactly how I'd describe what Jeff Weaver is doing.

Fuck Pledged Delegates, fuck popular vote.

[highprincipleswork]

76. Hopefully Bernie will not respond to bullshit of this kind, but carry on in his own Progressive way.

Looking back, was probably a mistake to get rope a doped into brawling a woman, even in the rough and tumble of New York. Strategically that is. Might have gone down a lot easier with a lighter touch.

So tempting though.

[killbotfactory]

77. To corporate welfare dems, yes

the more his message resonates, the less power they have over the democratic party.

[DJ13]

80. She aint seen nothin yet

Wait until she's facing a Republican.

By the way, isn't it a little early to start the whining about her opposition being mean?

[CentralMass]

81. Poor leadership.