75% of African Americans and 64% of Latinos supported Hillary

[MadBadger]

So much for those inroads.

[Jack Bone]

1. Of the 38% that voted...

[TM99]

3. It was only 29%.

That was the reported number on MSNBC.

[Rex]

4. But isn't that the rub? Those that did vote are the only ones that matter.

TO the process at least.

[JimDandy]

6. Couldn't have been that high for the Dems... n/t

[TM99]

2. Now look deeper.

Only 29% of Democratic voters in NY voted.

Even with those breakdowns, there is no GE win without more enthusiasm and leftist support.

Clinton won't get that from independents. She will get some LOTE voters in the party. She won't have the numbers to win.

It won't matter how many minorities vote then.

[Maru Kitteh]

8. But they didn't vote for Sanders, did they?

Hillary

has

more

votes.

She will be the President.

[TM99]

9. It is the math.

Y'all keep chirping away at that. And yet then you deny it when it doesn't suit the agenda.

[PBass]

22. NY always has low turnouts.

I've heard it's only 20% in New York City.

Also, I have no idea what point your trying to make. Low turnout elections don't count?

[brush]

10. Newsflash: You can't win the presidency with just angry white wingers anymore

Those days are long gone.

Romney won a huge majority of the white vote in 2012 and lost handily.

The Obama coalition — Latino Americans, African Americans, women, gays, Asian Americans, Native Americans, other POCs and the progressive whites — won in '08 and '12 for Obama and will win for Clinton in '16.

The country has changed.

[TM99]

11. Y'all are so into divisiveness.

Do you think it is just angry whites voting for Sanders?

Psst some of us PoC aren't falling for the Clinton propaganda.

Latinos and women voters are now on the rise for Sanders. That's math. Sorry it bursts your bubble.

Clinton will not get the Obama coalition. She will not get those same demographics in the same numbers he did. He sold Hope & Change with great aplomb. Clinton is selling More of the Same.

[brush]

13. Seems your bubble was burst. Bernie is done.

Sorry about that, we've pivoted now to the general election.

We're talking about how to beat the repugs now not rehashing losses.

[TM99]

15. Oh please.

Only in y'all minds has the pivot to the general begun.

She netted at most 31 delegates. Nothing dramatic has changed. This is the same bullshit y'all have preached since the primary began. No one is buying it.

[brush]

24. It's over, baby. Best to accept it and move on.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Some posters remind me of Hiroo Onoda

[brush]

36. Yeah, the die hards.

[TM99]

41. No baby, it is not over.

Jesus, quit the games.

[brush]

42. So how can he catch up?

[TM99]

43. All he needs to do is reach the convention.

Clinton will implode on her own as she always does.

[brush]

50. You seriously can't believe that. Come on. Are you smoking something?

Clinton is way ahead and will cruise into the convention with an even bigger lead than she has now.

There will be no implosions and no super delegates switching to Sanders (way behind in pledged delegates) as Weaver and Devine keep conning Sanders supporters with so they keep sending money.

And btw, did you know Devine's firm is drawing down 800k per month so of course he wants Sanders to keep going as long as possible. Weaver is also making a boatload so they have a huge incentive to keep him going until the convention. Not so pure, huh?

[TM99]

58. More insults from a Clinton supporter.

Why am I not surprised.

Do the delegate math, she will not reach the magically needed number by the convention. It will be decided by the SD's then. Period.

[apcalc]

27. As of now it's 33 she netted, with maybe 2 still unaccounted for.

[TM99]

39. Green Papers

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show she netted 31 delegates. That's hardly a stunning victory!

[leftynyc]

44. Then you don't understand

delegate math. It's okay. It' seems to be a problem for all the Bernie supporters. Don't worry, you'll reach that final stage of acceptance after Bernie loses all 5 states next week. Or you wont. Wont matter a damn.

By the way - a 16% point victory after promising a win is an ASS KICKING.

[lmbradford]

31. actually estimates are btw 12 and 19 net delegates

Bernie picked up more than that this week alone in State caucus delegates. We are on the same trajectory as before. But she has no more FIREWALLS or HOME states.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts

Actually estimates are 31 net delegates:


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=new%20york%20primary&eob=m.059rby/D/2/short/m.059rby/


Bernie is DONE. If this was a boxing match Tad Decline would be throwing in the towel.

[TM99]

40. Exactly!

[uponit7771]

45. facts about the coalition should never be divisive to progressives

[brush]

54. Yeah, yeah, like people are going to be clamoring to vote for Trump or Cruz. Get real.

She got nearly half a million more votes in NY than Trump:

Clinton — 1,054,083 votes

Trump —524,932 votes

Any questions?

[TM99]

57. You can stop being an insulting tool now.

It is not over. Keep pushing that meme hard.

[JimDandy]

5. My sympathies go out to them...

as they do to everyone who must deal with the repercussions of voting for her.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. They don't need your sympathies. Perhaps you need theirs.

[JimDandy]

37. No. Am positive we'll all be sorry if she gets in.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. I respectfully ask you to have the humility to not speak for me and others you don't know .

Thank you in advance.

[uponit7771]

46. We agree, republicans will be sorry... I'm not sad about that

[book_worm]

7. Once again Bernie mostly can only win small lily white caucus states

[workinclasszero]

12. I blame Stockholm syndrome

The BS movement is noticeably pale and male.

[IamMab]

35. "Pale and male" That's a good one! Americans love a good rhyme.

[Funtatlaguy]

60. You might add

and Young as hell.
It still rhymes...lol.

[Skid Rogue]

14. Thanks for the numbers...

I LOVE being a Democrat.

[Scurrilous]

16. K & R

[Number23]

17. "So much for those inroads" Pretty much

Not that it will do anything for the special folks who keep accusing us of being low information voters one day and then screaming for our votes the next. Who keep hollering that Sanders is "chipping away" at Clinton's minority support one week and then screaming that we have Stockholm Syndrome when that new found "support" ONCE AGAIN melts away to nothing.

Even in a thread that says 64% of Latinos voted for Clinton, some are still acting as though Sanders has made a dent in her Hispanic support. It would be hilarious if it weren't so incredibly stupid.

[nolawarlock]

18. After the Stockholm syndrome commentary out there

... And the support it got even after the author of it was banned, and given that this attitude has probably gone much further than this website, I'm surprised he got as many minority votes as he did. It was really insulting.

[Cha]

19. Beautiful, thank you, MB!

[betsuni]

20. I guess the hot sauce worked.

[PBass]

23. ZOMFG, HOT SAUCEGATE, SO IMPORTANT! SO MEANINGFUL!

I was positively scandalized! I almost fainted!

Hot Saucegate will go down as the turning point!

[2pooped2pop]

30. almost like OmG Bernie is going to the vatican, and Hillarys wasn't invited-gate?

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. Like, damn that shit was somewhere beyond stupid.

[pdsimdars]

21. Which means people like Spike Lee and Killer Mike have a job to do.

[brush]

26. Yeah, to get their credibility back in the black community.

[uponit7771]

47. Who's "Killer Mike"!? Sounds like some made up rap artist

[oasis]

55. Killer Mike's main claim to fame? Introducing Bernie to SOUL FOOD.

[MadBadger]

53. Yea, or Bernie...

[SidDithers]

25. Which bodes well for Hillary in California...nt

Sid

[uponit7771]

48. Is Cali a closed primary? tia

[bettyellen]

59. GOP is closed, Dem is open to Dems and those registered with "no party preference" .....

but there is a shitty wrinkle, there is also an American Independent Party- a racist RW party, and it is estimated 3/4 four people who registered for it think it is the regular Indy party. But the regular Indy party can't vote in the primary either, so maybe they should have looked it up. Because now they are likely voting for neo- Nazis.

[stonecutter357]

28. K&R!

[2pooped2pop]

29. so we can blame them?

[uponit7771]

49. For the country changing for the better? Of course, I am

[2pooped2pop]

63. believe me, it won't change for the better with Clinton

But she is smart enough to throw fools a bone, while handing the steak over to the rich, so some, who are not very bright, will think they are getting something. The rest of us can see that we got the fucking bone, and it's not good enough!

[peace13]

51. Won't they be surprised!

[apcalc]

52. There are those voting trends again.

Which I think will be seen again in PA ( especially Philadelphia) and MD ( especially Baltimore).

[Squinch]

61. Sanders's supporters were told early and often that they had a problem with poc. Their response

was to ridicule and dismiss those who were stating that fact, to insist that there was no problem with poc, and to trot out a picture of Sanders in a student sit-in from the 60's. They actively refused to address the concerns of poc, or even to acknowledge that those concerns were legitimately separate from their pet, economic reform. After they did that for a while, they added the statement, "we ARE addressing the concerns of poc" to their repertoire, when in fact they were doing nothing of the sort.

They did not listen to constituents about what concerned those constituents because they were certain they knew better what those constituents should be thinking.

It was their own hubris that brought them down.

[baldguy]

62. They're just a bunch of elitist 1%er corporatist DINOs.