2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSeems like it should have been Bernie Supporters doing some outreach
to Hillary supporters.
But that didn't happen.
Beowulf
(761 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)DU has way more Bernie supports.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)100% or nothing.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And that calling Hillary and her supporters every name in the book in endless attacks wouldn't cause that switch to occur.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)No sympathy here. "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." I think the Left has tricked itself into believing that the Tea Party won somehow, when they're actually more irrelevant than ever these days.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The tea party mentality is reshaping the GOP.
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)coffin for the GOP.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The playbook (which has been used against every interloper including Obama) is to call the candidate an unrealistic would-be Messiah and their supporters as deluded bullies blinded by pixiedust.
I hesitate to think what they would have done had Warren chosen to run....Or what they would have done to Pail Wellstone if he were alive and had run against The Machine.
LisaM
(27,813 posts)I thought it was hard wanting a woman Prez in 2008. Who thought it would get worse eight years look later?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... he was going to have to convert thousands of people who would have been perfectly happy to vote for Hillary.
It's a math problem that I've been explaining since October.
When the primaries started Hillary had huge support. Bernie was going to have to attract lots of those people away.
Period.
Calling those people names was never going to get those people to switch.
Bernie is going to lose because he and his supporters never figured this out.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The "math" and the rigged system will likely make Clinton the nominee....Even if it ends up something like 40 60, that is nothing to sneeze at or ignore....Nor are the national polls that show him within the margin of error.
But don't ignore the positive side of Bernies campaign, and the extent of what his campaign has accomplished...And outside of her hardcore partisan and personal supporters, many people have gone to her as the default candidate for "pragmatic" reasons, but prefer Bernie and/or his message.
Bernie's "supporters" is just a meme the Clinton campaign and MSM has used to marginalize his message, as it consistently has done to anyone slightly to the left of conservative.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And at what point did I "ignore" the positive side of Bernie?
There is a segment of support for Bernie that is over the top with their angry rhetoric.
That's just a fact.
Its loud, angry, aggressive, and it drowns out his more reasonable supporters, and his actual message.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)On that note I would like to say that I love the little video of Hillary brushing the American people off of her shoulder. I can feel it now! But seriously, I think we just have to wait this one out. Time will tell.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Capiche???????????????
boston bean
(36,221 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)she can get, from wherever he can get it?
This will not be a cakewalk for her.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Listen, vote how you want.
I really have no control over that.
You got a choice. Hillary or one of the repugs... Do what you want.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts).....with or without your permission.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)I have no control over that.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)People see what they want to see.
mcar
(42,334 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... President of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences.
How'd that work out for you, Bernie?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)There are about 242,470,820 people I'd rather have as president.