As far as I can tell, Bernie has two bad choices in front of him

[RandySF]

He can be a statesman and walk away or he can be known as the guy who joined the party to vandalize it One involves a productive career in the Senate, the other does not.

[Justice]

2. Statesman is not a bad choice.

[Maru Kitteh]

3. I have great hope he will exit with grace.

He will not be the nominee, and will exit either way, the only question is how.

[Retrograde]

4. Another choice

not exclusive to either - is to actively campaign for like-minded candidates for Senate and House seats. I'd love to see a dozen more like Bernie in the Senate, and fifty in the House!

[eastwestdem]

5. I am (was?) a Bernie supporter, but agree that it's all about his legacy now.

He has brought so much to the conversation, that I hope he finds a way to remain as respected among liberals as he has been for the past 20 years.

[whatchamacallit]

9. Unitybot

[eastwestdem]

20. So, all Bernie supporters must be violently opposed to any resolution?

Seems a little too high-blood-pressure-inducing for me.

[democrattotheend]

25. I guess I'm a unitybot too then

I wrote this diary as an olive branch/coming to terms: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/20/1518146/-Some-thoughts-on-Hillary-Clinton-from-a-Bernie-Supporter?_=2016-04-20T18:08:27.539-07:00#comment_61129643

[whatchamacallit]

26. Guess so

[LexVegas]

6. If he doesn't drop out very soon,all his committee assignments should go bye bye when HRC is Pres.nt

[Tarc]

7. I think he'll stick in it at least through next Tuesday

Sanders may tie in RI and lose the other 4, let's say 45-55. In that scenario, he's have to carry the rest at 62-63%.

[riversedge]

17. PA is looking good for Hill right now for sure--all closed primary-deadline to Register

is past. Now that I posted this--expect the the onslaught of threads from Sanders fans.

[lagomorph777]

8. If Bernie gives up, he leaves this country with two bad choices.

I don't think he will do that without being absolutely certain he gave us his very best.

[whatchamacallit]

10. Thread is won

[lagomorph777]

11. If they were actually so confident, they wouldn't be trying to intimidate Bernie into giving up.

They would be happy to out-compete him and make their point.

Instead, they resort to "resistance is futile" statements, and GOP-style voter suppression, followed by ridiculing the disenfranchised who are catching them at their game.

[Lizzie Poppet]

31. Exactly.

If he drops out before he's eliminated, either by the delegate math or by a vote at the convention, I'll be bitterly disappointed in him.

[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Hillary supporters don't want California to have a voice in the Dem nomination

They are posting on the internet saying Bernie should drop out.

Why do Hillary supporters insult California so much?

[SFnomad]

27. California effectively doesn't have a voice in the Dem nomination ... and if they wanted a voice

they'd move their primary to being earlier than June. And because their primary is in June, they usually don't have much of a voice. With the primary in June, they either don't have a voice or they're kingmaker. There really isn't much in between.

The did move their primary 3 elections in a row to Super Tuesday (2000, 2004 and 2008) ... don't know why they moved it back to June.

[Cheese Sandwich]

28. They're having a voice this year. They'll have 2 mathematically viable candidates to choose from

Clinton and Sanders.

[SFnomad]

30. Nah, they really don't have a voice. Even though BS isn't mathematically eliminated ...

in reality it's over. What CA will do is probably be the state that puts Secretary Clinton over the top by getting her over the majority in pledged delegates mark and when added to her Superdelegates, will clinch the nomination.

[Cheese Sandwich]

32. It's not over if they vote for him.

[SFnomad]

34. If BS were to suspend his candidacy and leave tomorrow, CA voters could still vote for BS in June

as he would still be on the ballot

Just because you can vote for someone doesn't mean that it isn't over already.

[Cheese Sandwich]

36. People don't vote for dropped out candidates as much

They vote more for people that are still in it.

If Bernie were to win big in California it could put him over the top. He's only about 220 delegates behind right now.

There's no reason to drop out.

[SFnomad]

38. You're delusional now ... BS is not going to be "put over the top", ever

BS is 241 delegates behind ... he's further behind than Clinton EVER was back in 2008. He's been further behind for a long time ... and he's not getting much closer. And looking at the states that are coming up, he may right now be the closest he will ever be again and there just isn't enough open caucus states left for him.

[Cheese Sandwich]

40. You obviously wouldn't be voting for him anyway.

[SFnomad]

41. The state I currenly live in has already had its primary n/t

[Adrahil]

13. He has a third, better choice, maybe.

If he is determined to stay on the campaign trail, he can focus fire on the GOP. Forget about Clinton. He can;t win the nomination now. But he can focus the ire of his supporters on the REAL enemy.

[SFnomad]

35. I like this idea ... I hope it happens n/t

[geek tragedy]

14. it all depends on what he wants to accomplish now that the

nomination is not possible

[NurseJackie]

15. If this continues, I think his Senate career is over ...

... at least with regard to what committees he serves on and/or chairs. He'll probably still be elected by Vermonters, but his "influence" in the Senate will be less than before. I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.

[democrattotheend]

24. I think he will have more influence

Now that he is much better known and has a strong following.

[BKH70041]

16. As long as when he exits he takes his supporters with him.

If that happens, it can be sooner or later.

[Bjornsdotter]

29. No worries! n/t

[passiveporcupine]

33. Oh now, this is a thread that shows your true spirit

I hope it doesn't represent the spirit of all Hill camp.

[villager]

39. Ah, the party unifiers are speaking now...

Revealing their truest selves.

[dflprincess]

44. So you're saying that, if she is nominated, Hillary won't need Bernie supporters in November

or are you just adopting the DLC/Third Way/"New" Democrats attitude that the left should just shut up and go along because we are irrelevant and unnecessary -- until an election is lost and then it's supposedly our fault, which might indicate we're not so irrelevant after all.

[rock]

18. And I do not want him to leave

He gives the primary a real charge (it's exciting with him in it).

[Skwmom]

19. A productive career when the head of the party is a corporatist with more Democratic Corporatists

welcomed each day. Oh, that will really work out well.

[passiveporcupine]

21. As far as I can tell,

you are absolutely the worst person to try to speak for Bernie.

[RandySF]

22. I'm not speaking for anyone

I'm speaking to the reality he faces.

[trudyco]

23. Maybe he should start voting rights amendment

My first thought was that he should run independently in the GE. I do hope he stays in past California so they can have their voice heard. I don't think he would split the Democratic Party up with an independent run. But he should use this revved up populace to get some real change started. Maybe he can work on an amendment giving us guaranteed easy voting with paper ballots and publicly funded elections (no more caging, same day registration, no voter id, reasonable party affiliation deadlines, national holiday for voting, ex convicts getting to vote after a grace period, all provisional ballots counted, etc).

[jfern]

37. It's the country that has two bad choices if he's not the nominee

[sadoldgirl]

42. Again, what are you afraid of?

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.(08)

She was nasty against Obama until the very end, much

much nastier than Bernie!

And don't you worry about his Senate seat. Did you not

see the results of VT? BTW, he now has become even

more popular than EW.

[4nic8em]

43. I hope he does exactly

what Hillary did in 2008...she stayed in until after the very last state voted (South Dakota) and then went to the convention. Bernie has said he intends to have every state have the opportunity to vote and then on to the convention. Nice twist, huh? Sometimes facts hurt...

Peace

[dflprincess]

45. Bernie is not the one who vandalized the party

that has been happening since the DLC/Third Way/"New" Democrats got control of the DNC.