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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:59 PM Apr 2016

I'm voting for Hillary because I support a woman's right to choose!

My husband vetoed a very restrictive legislation on late-term abortions and he vetoed it at an event in the White House where we invited a lot of women who had faced this very difficult decision, that ought to be made based on their own conscience, their family, their faith, in consultation with doctors. Those stories left a searing impression on me. Women who think their pregnancy is going well and then wake up and find some really terrible problem. Women whose life is threatened if they carry their child to term, and women who are told by doctors that the child they're carrying will not survive.

Again, I am where I have been, which is that if there's a way to structure some kind of constitutional restriction that take into account the life of the mother and her health, then I'm open to that. But I have yet to see the Republicans willing to actually do that, and that would be an area, where if they included health, you could see constitutional action.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/29/hillary_clinton_i_could_compromise_on_abortion_if_it_included_exceptions_for_mothers_health.html
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I'm voting for Hillary because I support a woman's right to choose! (Original Post) XemaSab Apr 2016 OP
Both Democrats OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #1
Exactly. jwirr Apr 2016 #3
What about women who just had a failure of birth control or don't want a child? haikugal Apr 2016 #2
Redux on: Clinton willing to back a constitutional amendment restricting abortion k8conant Apr 2016 #4
XemaSab needs a new talking point. Wilms Apr 2016 #5
My support for Hillary is entirely principled XemaSab Apr 2016 #7
Whenever this is brought up nobody wants to talk about it. DookDook Apr 2016 #8
I believe her OP is the same as your post. hollysmom Apr 2016 #9
You can't support Hillary if you support a woman's right to choose abortion on-demand. closeupready Apr 2016 #6
I say if your instant reaction is "Nah, I don't want a kid," XemaSab Apr 2016 #11
Yes, agreed. closeupready Apr 2016 #16
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #15
Why didn't this get more discussion...? closeupready Apr 2016 #10
Great you support a wedge issue Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #12
Sad that the Dems care what their candidate say. senz Apr 2016 #13
Hmmm Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #14

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
2. What about women who just had a failure of birth control or don't want a child?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:05 PM
Apr 2016

Are they protected? What about late term abortion? Will women's right to choose be supported with available, easy access clinics, financial help for the poor...free birth control?

Hillary thinks abortion should be rare and is open to state restrictions.

Bernie is a better feminist who will protect women's rights.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
5. XemaSab needs a new talking point.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary gets an amazing amount of "principled" support from those innocently or intentionally unaware that Hillary doesn't have any principles to be happy about.

It's stunning.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
7. My support for Hillary is entirely principled
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

and it dates back to about 30 seconds before I posted the OP!

DookDook

(166 posts)
8. Whenever this is brought up nobody wants to talk about it.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

Are we not supposed to talk about it because we know the Republicans aren't going to go after her on her stance on abortion? So as Democrats are all supposed to be good little soldiers and not bring it up? I sure do hope that this isn't what Secretary Clinton meant by, "I'll get things done with Republicans."

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
9. I believe her OP is the same as your post.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

sometimes it gets confusing when headlines belie the content, but you take the titles you get.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
6. You can't support Hillary if you support a woman's right to choose abortion on-demand.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

Obviously, it's a free country, and you can DO whatever you want; what I mean is, Hillary stated just last week that she could support constitutional restrictions on a woman's right to choose if that woman hadn't thought about it "enough".

And clearly, what Hillary meant by the word "enough" was if the woman had UNDERthought the decision by an amount of effort/time which is deemed "sufficient" for male lawmakers.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
11. I say if your instant reaction is "Nah, I don't want a kid,"
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:25 AM
Apr 2016

that's a fine reason to have an abortion.

There's a certain underlying assumption in Hillary's words that abortion is an inherently morally fraught decision.

It can be a moral decision if the mother and others involved make it one, but I don't think morality is inherent to the subject.

Assuming that it's inherently morally fraught means that it's possible to make an immoral decision.

Wanting children, not wanting children... I don't think that's a question of morality.

The only part I see as potentially immoral is forcing an unwanted or gravely disabled child to come into the world.

Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
12. Great you support a wedge issue
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:31 AM
Apr 2016

Yawn

Sad that Dems are now using wedge issues... Just like Repugs always have.



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