Call it Thinner

[berni_mccoy]

As in what will happen to the population of DU should anyone "call it".

Asking Skinner to call it is about as dumb as asking Bernie to drop out. And that's completely asinine since Bernie is actually doing more good and progressing the issues for the party than Hillary ever would on her own.

And if that remote chance, and yes, I'll say it's remote but not implausible, that something does happen as a result of Hillary's mishandling of state secrets and illegal hiring of staff by the State Department while they were working for her, not to mention the kick-backs she gave for donations to the Clinton foundation, well guess what, the people who asked Bernie to drop out and Skinner to call it are going to be biting their tongues right off.

In other words, the fat lady hasn't sung yet. If and when we get to the convention with both Hillary and Bernie as candidates and one is chosen or until the day either candidate decides to throw in the towel, nobody should be "calling it".

[Tarc]

1. Bye Felicia

[BillZBubb]

4. Bye Tarc! To ignore with you!

[berni_mccoy]

24. You almost don't need to ignore him...

He gets his posts hidden so frequently...

[Depaysement]

5. How original

Online "gangsta."

[rhett o rick]

10. I think arrogance isn't appropriate here but if you think it will piss us off, you are badly

mistaken. We have a long fight ahead of us and eventually we will throw out the Big Money from our government. As far as you, on to my ignore list as I advise others.

[onehandle]

2. I'll be at the convention to see Hillary accept.

Unless Senator Sanders wants to damage our chances for November, he will bow out long before.

[rhett o rick]

13. Don't go blaming your failure in Nov on Sanders. We've told you all along that

Sanders can win in Nov but H. Clinton can't. Your choice, your call. I hope you can do it without the left that you've been disparaging.

[nolawarlock]

25. Yes, by saying that she can't win because you won't support her.

Sorry, but blackmail doesn't work here.

[passiveporcupine]

30. I've seen a handful of people here (ok, mabye I'll count my fingers and toes)

Who say they won't vote for Hillary in November. I won't say support, because even if I vote for her, I'm not supporting her, I'm supporting the dem party.

I don't think such a small number can be called blackmail. I hate to see people say that, but I understand how they feel. I will be physically sickened by having to vote for Hillary, but I will still defend our country against republicans.

And we will continue to fight to change our system, so even if Hillary becomes POTUS, we won't stop fighting. She is wrong on so many issues. We need a better leader, but we might coalesce behind Bernie in some other format to keep pushing for change in our government.

We need to get money out of politics now, and Hillary has no intention of doing that. If Bernie loses it will be because of money. It will be because too many people were afraid to vote for him because of big money running our country, and too many people are afraid of him because they don't want to have to give up any of their millions.

This whole goddamn fight is about the abuse of money.

[nolawarlock]

52. A handful?

I've seen a lot more than that.

[rhett o rick]

37. I am saying she cant win because millions of people don't like her. Look at her popularity

ratings. You chose her, you've got her. And I agree, trying to badger or blackmail those that want to settle for no less than freedom and liberty, won't work. It failed in 2000 and will again in 2016. If you fail, look in the mirror for the problem.

Just look at the mocking, ridicule and arrogance here leveled at the Left and then don't wonder why you fail.

[nolawarlock]

50. That's rich.

the amount of hate I've seen levelled against Hillary supporters here is disgusting. I've seen horrible things this entire season and, since I joined, I've been called names and alert stalked. If you have to harass people because your ideas aren't selling, maybe you should reconsider your ideas.

[rhett o rick]

56. What issues do I support that you find so repulsive? Helping the 50,000,000 Americans

living in poverty? Well if Wall Street wins the election, watch that number grow. But some see poverty as a minor side effect to have a Clinton Aristocracy.

You and I are on different sides of this class war. And we will fight until we throw out the wealthy and super wealthy that control our government that some here have come to embrace.

[nolawarlock]

61. Enjoy your war.

Just remember that I never voted for that one. Lol

[silvershadow]

3. Isn't is ridiculous? I actually wish he would "call it". This place would be a ghost town, but

for a few elites and a few ignorant folks.

[Electric Monk]

6. "temporarily embarrassed billionaires", aka .01% wannabes

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/328134-socialism-never-took-root-in-america-because-the-poor-see

[rhett o rick]

14. Bingo

[cwydro]

9. I very much doubt that. nt

[MADem]

12. I think a lot of people who have been bullied away by trolls and BSers might come back.

And a lot of socks would just go dormant, until the next time they want to come out from their cave and make trouble.

[angrychair]

35. Man, you figured it out

Sanders supporters are just one more member of that vast right wing conspiracy we keep hearing about.
Unless you shut your mouth and lick her boots your written off as a misogynist or worse.

Sorry, as a person that has fought their whole life for Democratic Party ideals I am not going to let a bunch of nameless bullies and self-righteous followers tell me that someone that has been found guilty and fined for both legal and ethical problems several times over the last couple of decades, is the best choice to be the standard bearer for Democratic ideals.

[MADem]

43. See post 41. Not buying your "victimized" nonsense, because that's what it is.

Intolerance is NOT a "Democratic ideal." It IS a big tent, and if you don't like it, too fricken bad.

HRC will be our nominee, and to my mind, it can't happen soon enough. Deal with it.

[angrychair]

59. So funny

You said "intolerance is not a Democratic ideal" and then told me to "deal with it".
No sense of the irony at all.


Again, I am not going to let some nameless Internet ghost define what kind of person I am what Democratic Party ideals are, I've lived them for 30 years.
Not sure where you get off calling me intolerant while Clinton supporters on this site use anti Semitic slurs and insinuations and are using neo-Nazi websites as sources. FYI, no, saying the phrase "corporate whores" or disagreeing with HRC and her fund raising, is not the same thing.

Don't hear any concern from you about that.

[MADem]

62. "So funny..."

Is that why you're getting all bitter and pouty with me?

It's not my fault that America doesn't prefer your candidate. His ideas are not prevailing. His attitude is not gaining converts. His supporters are pushing people away.

That's his fault, not mine. Get over it.

[PyaarRevolution]

68. Big Tent?!

I find that funny, considering maybe not you but others in the Hillary camp seem to say "Bleep Bernie Sanders" issues or ignore them out right
How about some of those Hillary supporters listen to us and have some empathy for the pain we feel or see in others who have with crushing student loan debt or medical bills? Or throwing people in prison for using Pot because CCA and other for-profit prisons make a TON of money for those non-violent offenders.
What about the old foreign policy perspectives she seems to share with Kissinger and others which aren't just wrong imo, but downright dangerous to us as Americans. There's a saying that goes "The only reason America has never had a coup is because they don't have an American Embassy there".

[rhett o rick]

38. Funny that because there is a purge on progressives and lots have been run off. The MIRT makes

certain that there are no Sanders puppets but are easy on Clinton puppets. And you are projecting when to mention the Cave. Sanders supporters don't have anything like your Clinton Cave. And the biggest trolls on the sight have immunity from a favorable Admin.

[MADem]

41. Yeah, sure--that's why the bully to bullied ratio here is 80/20. nt

[rhett o rick]

44. The 20% wields a great deal of power. You have the Admins behind you. The MIRT and Host Forum

are not 80-20 but more like 60-40 in your favor. The Admins have banned our most outspoken progressives and taken some of us out of the jury pool. Your 20% control the site even if you post very little of consequences.

You guys may win this battle but the movement will continue. We will eventually throw out the Big Money from our government before poverty overcomes us all.

The hubris of those that think they are winning will come back to bite them.

[MADem]

63. Yeah, sure--the admins bend so far over backward to be "fair" that they don't

unload some of the even obvious trolls on the 80 Percent Team until their behavior is egregious beyond all understanding.

Continue your "movement" all you'd like. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders followed Kucinich over to Fox News--now that was some "movement" if I ever saw any.

[rhett o rick]

65. I find your contempt for the movement of people that just want a fair shake from

this government run by the Big Money, a sad statement. I see people at the foodbank every day that only want a decent chance. Want food for their families and a decent job. And some are getting paid at Walmart or Burger King but still have a hard time making ends meet. The homeless numbers dont show those that are couch surfing on relatives and friends couches. Pickups with canopies and small motor homes are becoming homes for the poor while the Clinton family drinks their martinis and counts their Sachs of gold. I have two friends that have lost their retirements thru no fault of their own. The wealthy company execs stole it all legal and everything. I have a close relative that lost their families home to the bank. They were lied to. But I guess that's all fair in the world where greed wins out. I have young relatives, college graduates that can only find work for min wage.

I could go on but as I said, we are on opposite sides of this class war. I guess you believe in trickle down.

[passiveporcupine]

31. Please stop with the "ignorant folks"

I doubt there are any ignorant folks who are actively involved in politics.

[silvershadow]

32. I've seen it right here on DU. People that abandon the core values of our party because

they never had them or believed in the m in the first place.

[passiveporcupine]

33. That does not imply ignorance.

There are lots of reasons why people vote the way they do.

[silvershadow]

36. It sure does. It is the very definition. They are ignorant of either our history and traditions,

else are blissfully ignorant of how they are either promoting the opposite. (Well, there is another option: They don't care, but I don't believe people in politics don't care).

[pdsimdars]

46. How about "uninformed"

[Uncle Joe]

7. I couldn't agree more.

Thanks for the thread, berni_mccoy.

[LexVegas]

8. Don't lose mad...just lose. nt

[berni_mccoy]

19. Only mad people I see are the ones stomping their feet

Insisting that Skinner call it or for Bernie to drop out. Must really put a bug up their ass to know she hasn't clinched it yet. The maddest ones are the people who keep insisting that Bernie supporters don't lose mad. Those ones seem to have serious control issues... Must be the size of their hands ...

[Tarc]

20. Do you have a paddle, McCoy?

[berni_mccoy]

22. You know it.

Didn't you see me spank the last guy with it?!?

[IdaBriggs]

21. 7 Hidden Posts - aren't you just a joy to the community!

And

[Bobbie Jo]

39. The OP has 4.

What's your point?



and

[berni_mccoy]

66. That's well below the Hillary Fan Average which I think is about 8...

[rhett o rick]

40. We may lose a battle but we are in it for the duration. The hubris of the Fat Cats will be their

downfall and then who will you worship? By the way, the Rich Fat Cats will never let you play with them.

[lagomorph777]

11. If they were actually so confident,

they wouldn't be desperately begging Bernie to give up.

[MineralMan]

15. What fat lady berni?

Uff da!

[berni_mccoy]

16. Do you have one in mind?

[Bjornsdotter]

29. Hillary?

Fy fan!

[RobertEarl]

17. Thinner would be correct

Skinner is not stupid. He's not going to skin DU.

He is too much a believer in Democracy.

[MelissaB]

26. And... this website is a business.

It would be kind of crazy to destroy the business you've worked to build.

[RobertEarl]

34. Yeah, not gonna happen

If DU were skinned it would slowly fade away. I know I would go looking elsewhere if it were.

[kgnu_fan]

18. Absolutely!

[Scuba]

23. Nailed it!

[Firebrand Gary]

27. I don't care if Sander's stays in

I do care about his DU supporters promoting GOP rhetoric against Hillary, who will be the nominee. This is not about who is right or wrong, Hillary vs Bernie. Hillary will be at the top of the ticket, attacking her does nothing more than support 30 years of republican attacks.

[rhett o rick]

42. I am fighting the wealthy 1% that are looting the lower classes and creating

more and more poverty. I will fight against those that would enslave us no matter what their name is or party.

[Firebrand Gary]

48. We're all fighting for economic equality.

The only difference that we have is the vehicle to get there. My very best to you and I sincerely mean that, I despise the primaries when they get personal.

[rhett o rick]

51. Clinton won't fight for economic equality. She won't fight the system that has and is making her

very, very wealthy. She is on the wrong side of this class war.

[pdsimdars]

49. You have a bunch of erroneous assumptions

First, that Hillary will be our nominee. Presumptuous assumption.
Second that people are promoting GOP rhetoric. . . . . really, you need to educate yourself. There is a difference between personal attacks and attacks on issues. Hillary has been doing the personal attacks and Bernie has been on the issues.
Another thing, if they can't handle Bernie, how will they ever handle Trump or some other fact free tyrant?
If the Hillary campaign isn't prepared for Bernie's attacks on their positions, then they aren't prepared for the GE. Period.
Stop whining about mean old Bernie. He's done almost no personal attacks. And Hillary is doing constant personal attacks with lies, smears and swift boating.

[Firebrand Gary]

58. Ima help you out.

Even Senator Sander's knows it's time.

http://news.wabe.org/post/sanders-step-back-after-big-clinton-win

[pdsimdars]

72. I don't think you heard what Bernie and his top advisor Weaver said then.

And why would you believe anyone else but them.
Obviously they spun whatever they heard, because Bernie and his campaign are going forward stronger than ever.
Sorry if that upsets Hillary and her failing campaign.

[pdsimdars]

73. Here's something for you to think about.

[tularetom]

28. .

[pdsimdars]

45. What was more puzzling is that the person who asked to call it is the moderator of the Brnie group

WTF

[kgnu_fan]

47. really?

[pdsimdars]

54. Yes, I read a lot of that thread and the person is Autumn (or August?) and

that was what a lot of the discussion was about, how, as moderator of the Bernie group, could they be calling for "calling it". It was bizarre.
Go read some of the thread, it is like some kind of twilight zone where it is hard to figure out what is going on. But many of the people in the thread recognized him/her and that was what a lot of the discussion was about.

[kgnu_fan]

71. do you think that is a kind of "operation"?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

53. Credit where credit's due, that is clever and funny, probably true too!

[dchill]

55. K&R.

[still_one]

57. You are right berni

[amborin]

60. totally agree

[bbgrunt]

64. I agree.

[Zira]

67. Please explain "call it" to me. I am 1 month on this site.

I don't know and it's looking like a purge if you're a Bernie supporter.

[berni_mccoy]

69. Hill Fans want the owner of the site who goes by the handle Skinner to make it so

that no one can criticize Hillary anymore by "calling" the election effectively over.

Welcome to DU. You may have wandered into the wrong forum for your initiation . As a Bernie supporter, you're going to need two very important things:

1. A Thick Skin
2. An ability to cope with people who don't live in a fact-based world.

If you have those two traits, you may just last here until the convention...

[Zira]

70. If that is the case, I'm out of here.

I assure you I will not be listening to some guy who calls the election for Hillary before the final nomination, and expects me to abide by his call.

WTH! You're right. I have come to the waaaaaaaaaaaaay wrong site.

I'd like my donation money back.