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Bernie won 42% of NY how many NY superdelegates did he win? (Original Post) Csainvestor Apr 2016 OP
How much has he given to their campaigns? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #1
Lol... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #6
Its not illegal Gomez163 Apr 2016 #7
Yes it is. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #13
See the GOP primary of 1976 where Ford had delegates over Gomez163 Apr 2016 #14
Ok you are not getting it. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #16
Bribing a public official is illegal. Bribing a party official is not. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #17
18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses northernsouthern Apr 2016 #18
That "delegate" is not a party delegate. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #19
Nope. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #20
Wrong. Do you guys never get tired of spouting this? It's wrong. Google is your friend. Squinch Apr 2016 #2
Thems the rules. seabeyond Apr 2016 #3
Super Delegates are not won in the election. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #4
By his own logic he should get none. Zynx Apr 2016 #5
Superdelegates get to vote as they choose. Codeine Apr 2016 #8
Supers are not apportioned like delegates WhiteTara Apr 2016 #9
this to me is single most amusing thing about this campaign. tad fucking devine devices La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #15
Not enough. N/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #10
I notice they aren't asking Grijalva to support his state's popular vote. N/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #11
the super delegates are not pledged by states. this is a really dumb argument. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #12
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
6. Lol...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016
How much has he given to their campaigns?

You know you just described a bribe by the actual watered down definition?

Quid pro quo ("something for something" or "this for that" in Latin) means an exchange of goods or services, where one transfer is contingent upon the other.

Way to show your cards. K&R this post!
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
13. Yes it is.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

To purchase a vote is in fact illegal. You do know that is why Hillary is denying the Wall street donations....because taking money for services is corruption.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
16. Ok you are not getting it.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:59 PM
Apr 2016

To offer CASH for VOTES is Quid Pro Quo, this is illegal. Cut it, print it, done.


 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
17. Bribing a public official is illegal. Bribing a party official is not.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

That vote is in a private organization.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
18. 18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:42 PM
Apr 2016
(1) the term “public official” means Member of Congress, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner, either before or after such official has qualified, or an officer or employee or person acting for or on behalf of the United States, or any department, agency or branch of Government thereof, including the District of Columbia, in any official function, under or by authority of any such department, agency, or branch of Government, or a juror;


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201

20 Super-delegates are public officials in NY alone...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

Many in WA are too.

Here is the law in Maine for Party officials
http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec602.html


But if you want the NY laws?
S 200.00 Bribery in the third degree.
A person is guilty of bribery in the third degree when he confers, or
offers or agrees to confer, any benefit upon a public servant upon an
agreement or understanding that such public servant`s vote
, opinion,
judgment, action, decision or exercise of discretion as a public servant
will thereby be influenced.
Bribery in the third degree is a class D felony.

http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article200.htm
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
20. Nope.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016
Delegates are broken in to many subsets, there are also completely unrelated laws on non-supers bound. But super delegates are a subset of delegates. Super Delegates are what we are talking about. I gave you a list of super delegates.
That is why the title was...
List of Democratic Party superdelegates, 2016


Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. Super Delegates are not won in the election.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:31 PM
Apr 2016

They are free to support the person they think is best.
Tad Devine was instrumental in setting up that system.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
5. By his own logic he should get none.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

He keeps telling superdelegates from states that he has won that they have to support him. The reverse has to be true as well.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. Superdelegates get to vote as they choose.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:35 PM
Apr 2016

They'll largely vote for the person who has worked for their party her entire adult life, raising funds and serving in both the Executive and Legislative branches of government rather than the guy who shouldered in and now seems intent on burning the place to the ground because people aren't supporting him.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
9. Supers are not apportioned like delegates
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

they vote the way they want. Sorry for having to tell you that; but that's the way it is and has been for decades. Don't like it? Talk to Tad Devine who helped implement the system.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
15. this to me is single most amusing thing about this campaign. tad fucking devine devices
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

a system, works for a candidate whose supporters cannot believe how terrible the system is.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
12. the super delegates are not pledged by states. this is a really dumb argument.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

they are not going to switch to him. no matter how much you want them to.

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