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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:20 PM Apr 2016

Weaver: Bernie will be a Democrat for life.

An hour or so ago on MSNBC's "With All Due Respect," Mark Halperin asked Sanders' campaign manager Jeff Weaver if Bernie would "stay a Democrat for life." Weaver said yes, he will.

Can't imagine anyone believed him.

Update: Conflict between Weaver and Devine?

From Josh Marshall at TPM:

Tad Devine, Sanders message and strategy guy, is on CNN right now finishing up an interview. His message was dramatically different from the one I noted below from Campaign Manager Jeff Weaver. He never brought up Weaver's comments, as near as I could tell. But what he did say was very significant. He framed the entirety of his comments on Sanders' continuing ability to win a the majority/plurality of pledged delegates and assessing after more primaries in the coming weeks whether that is still possible. As a statistical matter, that's a stretch - the ability to catch up on pledged delegates, given the Democrats' use of proportional representation. But the point is he made no mention whatsoever of an effort to get Super Delegates to override the pledged delegates.

He's definitely not throwing in the towel. He clearly wants Sanders to stay in through California. And there's no reason why he shouldn't. But he's very conspicuously not on the same page as Weaver.


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Weaver: Bernie will be a Democrat for life. (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
Weaver and Devine are to Sanders like Mark Penn was to Hillary. riversedge Apr 2016 #1
You mean like this? passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #7
It shows how little you know about Bernie passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #2
Oh bull shit Andy823 Apr 2016 #4
What exactly does a Democrat stand for? virtualobserver Apr 2016 #8
"Democrat" to me is leagues more than a check mark on a postcard. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #13
You have to admit, though, Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #18
Bernie isn't that kind of guy. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #5
Maybe he is. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #9
That proves one thing Andy823 Apr 2016 #3
The funny thing is,Weaver,comic book store owner, wendylaroux Apr 2016 #10
Ahh, no. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #14
the Sanders Senate website lists him as (I-VT) nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #6
Oh jeeze passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #12
He's always been a small d democrat. That's all I care about. winter is coming Apr 2016 #11
That's not the question. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #16
If he doesn't get the nomination, what difference would it make? winter is coming Apr 2016 #17
As he has already declared Independent for his next senate race? Bullshit. seabeyond Apr 2016 #15
Bernie has always been a democrat. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #19
Supporters of a candidate who has a 67% not honest and trustworthy rating jfern Apr 2016 #20

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
7. You mean like this?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016
In 2000, then-First Lady Hillary Clinton asked Penn to advise her on her run for the U.S. Senate from New York. During the campaign, tension brewed between Penn, who urged Clinton to focus on the issues, and other advisers, who urged Clinton to focus more on personality.[26] Clinton followed Penn's advice and won the election. Penn served again as Clinton's pollster in her successful 2006 Senate re-election campaign.


Penn laid out his "strategy for winning" in a March 19, 2007 memo to the campaign. According to the memo, Penn believed Clinton's victory would be built upon a coalition of voters he called "Invisible Americans", a sort of reprise of Bill Clinton's "forgotten middle class", which would be composed of women and lower and middle class voters. Eventually it was this coalition that she ended up winning a year later


You like Brock better? Cause I be Brock would side with Penn on this.

Penn advised Clinton not to apologize for voting for the Iraq War, insisting that "It’s important for all Democrats to keep the word ‘mistake’ firmly on the Republicans."[30] Clinton followed this strategy. She would only apologize six years later in 2014. The lateness of her apology caused her to lose favor with antiwar Democrats


And this
In February 2008, the Clinton campaign regained momentum, in part due to the "3am ad" conceived by Penn.[33] Airing five days before crucial and very close democratic primaries in Texas and Ohio, the ad amplified doubts voters had about then-Senator Obama's preparedness for the office, and refocused the debate to one on national security. Shortly after, Clinton won both primaries in Ohio and Texas


Clinton's campaign was hobbled by infighting among the staff including much hostility towards Penn,[39] and disagreement in strategy such as between Penn's strategy of going negative against Obama and other staff who wanted to maintain a positive campaign.


Who does that sound like? Going negative? Brock all over the place.

Hillary did not lose because of Penn. She lost because she is Hillary and Obama was a far better candidate.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
2. It shows how little you know about Bernie
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

I would not be surprised if he does, or if he goes back to Independent. Either way, he's always been a democrat at heart.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. Oh bull shit
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:25 PM
Apr 2016

He only became a Democrat to get the backing to run for president. He has never claimed to be a Democrat in the past, and has even said he wasn't. Shows how little you know about Bernie.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
18. You have to admit, though,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

that he has voted with the Democrats in the legislature more often than some so-called "real" Democrats have.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
5. Bernie isn't that kind of guy.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:26 PM
Apr 2016

Halperin was referring to the Democratic Party.

Bernie stay a member of a group that "at heart" he has criticized and disrespected for many years?

Not going to happen. Bernie believes he is better than the Democratic Party.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
3. That proves one thing
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:23 PM
Apr 2016

Weaver is a lying sniveling skunk, of course I think everyone already knows this.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
10. The funny thing is,Weaver,comic book store owner,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:32 PM
Apr 2016

has done so well against professional H campaign manager,Mook.

Funny that.: I'll bet Mook likes that!!

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
11. He's always been a small d democrat. That's all I care about.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

If you think Bernie would accept the nomination and then say, "Fuck you, Democrats!" you really don't know Bernie at all. He's a class act.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
16. That's not the question.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:41 PM
Apr 2016

Given that Bernie isn't going to get the nomination, will he remain a member of the Democratic Party? He is listed as running for re-election to the Senate as an Independent.

I can't imagine that Bernie will remain a member of the Democratic Party. He's not much of a joiner.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. If he doesn't get the nomination, what difference would it make?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

Whether he remains a member of the Democratic party, or re-declares himself an Independent, he'd still be caucusing with Dems in the Senate and advocating for the same principles. This question is just another manifestation of the "not really one of us" bullshit. The harder people try to push Bernie out as being "not one of us", the more attention they draw to the fact that a lot of people prefer Bernie to the "real Democrat".

jfern

(5,204 posts)
20. Supporters of a candidate who has a 67% not honest and trustworthy rating
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

say how they don't trust my candidate? Hilarious.

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