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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:16 PM Oct 2012

DesMoines Register endorses Romney

The Register endorsement: Mitt Romney offers a fresh economic vision
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121027/OPINION03/121026026/The-Register-endorsement-Mitt-Romney-offers-a-fresh-economic-vision?Frontpage

Ten months ago this newspaper endorsed former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination for president. An overarching consideration was which of the party’s candidates could we see occupying the White House, and there was no question that Romney was qualified for the job.

Now, in the closing days of the general election campaign, the question is which of the two contenders deserves to be the next president of the United States.

Both President Barack Obama and Governor Romney are superbly qualified. Both are graduates of the Harvard University Law School who have distinguished themselves in government, in public service and in private life. Both are devoted husbands and fathers.

American voters are deeply divided about this race. The Register’s editorial board, as it should, had a vigorous debate over this endorsement. Our discussion repeatedly circled back to the nation’s single most important challenge: pulling the economy out of the doldrums, getting more Americans back in the workforce in meaningful jobs with promising futures, and getting the federal government on a track to balance the budget in a bipartisan manner that the country demands.


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DesMoines Register endorses Romney (Original Post) cal04 Oct 2012 OP
Bullshit...I agree with my President, Barack Obama! n/t KelleyD Oct 2012 #1
Agreed! If you have the stomach to read the whole thing cal04 Oct 2012 #5
"Fresh Economic Vision"??? Ya, tax cuts for billionaires and fuck the middle class. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #2
More like a tired old mirage n/t Blaukraut Oct 2012 #4
Bullshit naviman Oct 2012 #3
I will never get that paper again! Even if they gave it away. libinnyandia Oct 2012 #6
Very disappointing. But my consolation is in the fact Tutonic Oct 2012 #7
Have other Iowa papers endorsed Obama? RBInMaine Oct 2012 #16
Hmm..i might be wrong..but i thought another Iowa paper endorsed Obama. boingboinh Oct 2012 #19
I'm guessing Iowa City and Davenport papers. Tutonic Oct 2012 #34
No surprise since they went out of there way to embarras Obama by demanding he release the interview WI_DEM Oct 2012 #8
"Trickle down economics" is fresh? mzmolly Oct 2012 #9
Amazingly ignorant conclusion. BootinUp Oct 2012 #10
Expect the MSM to blow this up and ignore the WP poll of VA WI_DEM Oct 2012 #11
David Gregory is home practicing his condescending russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #18
Being old enough to remember when the DMR was rurallib Oct 2012 #12
1972's Richard Nixon was the LAST REPUBLICAN they ever Endorsed! Now Romney! boingboinh Oct 2012 #13
It is a Hearst publication that is no longer Tutonic Oct 2012 #41
And that justifies them all but endorsing Obama's agenda and then flipping around to Romney FVZA_Colonel Oct 2012 #50
What a muddle-headed endorsement BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #14
Glad they came out with it now blazeKing Oct 2012 #15
The paragraph that clinches the Register's stupidity Bad Thoughts Oct 2012 #17
What idiots TroyD Oct 2012 #20
The last Republican they endorsed was Nixon naviman Oct 2012 #22
You Know, You Can't Win Them All.... SingleSeatBiggerMeat Oct 2012 #21
doesn't matter Democrats4All Oct 2012 #23
They did this because they didn't like being Thrill Oct 2012 #24
Yikes! They've ALWAYS Chosen Democrat Each Election until Now boingboinh Oct 2012 #25
You seriously smell like a troll.. bama_blue_dot Oct 2012 #46
Is it just me or does it seem like Piazza Riforma Oct 2012 #26
Which fresh new vision were they referring to? Does he ever stay with the same vision? Kteachums Oct 2012 #27
They also endorsed Steve King! TroyD Oct 2012 #28
It's says they got fucking stupid on their editorial board. Thanks for Cha Oct 2012 #43
I wonder what happened during the interview. Mass Oct 2012 #29
Absolutely nothing happened. Obama released the transcript of the interview. LisaL Oct 2012 #31
When they made a big deal out of a ProSense Oct 2012 #42
WTF if wrong with them???? They've lost their minds. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #30
Register gives Dems permission to go nuclear on next Republican Pres Bad Thoughts Oct 2012 #32
So that's what happens when you let the intern run the weekend desk... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #33
They also endorsed Steve King! TroyD Oct 2012 #35
Clearly he's "superbly qualified" ProSense Oct 2012 #39
The DMR should be torn apart over the Steve King endorsement TroyD Oct 2012 #40
It appears that is incorrect. ProSense Oct 2012 #44
Damn... BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #36
Kiss those wind subsidies goodbye TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #37
Romney Campaign is already seizing the moment: TroyD Oct 2012 #38
And, the last one was Dick Nixon...how did that workout, mittloaf? Cha Oct 2012 #45
Ok.I've calmed down. Let me TELL you about paper endorsements in this new corporate world. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #47
Your explanation BootinUp Oct 2012 #49
Wow. That's petty of them, isn't it? eom lolamio Oct 2012 #48

cal04

(41,505 posts)
5. Agreed! If you have the stomach to read the whole thing
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

I was wondering how much they were paid for all the bull they put in that endorsement

naviman

(102 posts)
3. Bullshit
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

They gave all the credit of the ACA to Romney. I think they did it just because of the Obama interview last week. What a bunch of losers.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
7. Very disappointing. But my consolation is in the fact
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

that Iowa will go BLUE. We're on the right side of history. No doubt about that. I'm thinking that Terry Brandsted's crew worked this for RMoney. Iowa politics have long influenced this paper.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
34. I'm guessing Iowa City and Davenport papers.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

Des Moines Register is the largest paper and unfortunately it is somewhat of a right leaning paper. They endorsed Hillary Clinton over Obama in 2008 Primaries and likely would have endorsed McCain except he had the untimely meltdown thingy. The paper has lost significant readership over the last 5-10 years and unfortunately has been known to enter into politics depending upon who controls the statehouse. I do not think that this endorsement will assist RMoney to capture this state--42% of voting is complete and Obama has a significant lead that is not going to be overcome. I believe that Obama made a misstep with the editorial board and lost the endorsement. In the end just like in the 2008 primaries, he will prevail and the Register will go back to focusing on stories about corn and bridges.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
8. No surprise since they went out of there way to embarras Obama by demanding he release the interview
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

of their interview with him.

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
12. Being old enough to remember when the DMR was
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
Oct 2012

one of America's 5 best newspapers. Now it competes with FUX news and the Moonie Times.
Next editorial meeting: How to raise circulation.

 

boingboinh

(290 posts)
13. 1972's Richard Nixon was the LAST REPUBLICAN they ever Endorsed! Now Romney!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:27 PM
Oct 2012

So one can't say they are right-leaning and biased. They are very, VERY democratic. Its clear they are/were upset by Obama in not wanting to go on record thing.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
41. It is a Hearst publication that is no longer
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
Oct 2012

left leaning. The Cowles Family sold in 1986 and it is controlled by Gannet--that around 2000 became a bit more right leaning. It is somewhat centrist but keep in mind that they did not endorse Obama in the 2008 primaries and therefore had reason onto to do so in 2012. Don't expect this endorsement to chang ethe trajectory of the race in any manner. Iowa voters typically buck what this newspaper board recommends.

 

FVZA_Colonel

(4,096 posts)
50. And that justifies them all but endorsing Obama's agenda and then flipping around to Romney
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:03 AM
Oct 2012

because he can somehow be "bipartisan" for magical, as yet unfounded reasons?

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
14. What a muddle-headed endorsement
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:28 PM
Oct 2012

It's all about "breaking gridlock," and Romney supposedly being the better guy to do that, while they're basically begging him not to give in to his own party, who will disown him at the first indication of real bipartisanship.

I knew they were going in this direction based on their questions to Obama.

 

blazeKing

(329 posts)
15. Glad they came out with it now
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:28 PM
Oct 2012

With the storm in the news, it'll be drowned out in coverage of Sandy.

Bad Thoughts

(2,525 posts)
17. The paragraph that clinches the Register's stupidity
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:28 PM
Oct 2012
Early in his administration, President Obama reached out to Republicans but was rebuffed. Since then, he has abandoned the effort, and the partisan divide has hardened. That has hampered not only the economy, but the entire country. We remain a nation of red states and blue states.

Romney succeeded as governor in Massachusetts where he faced Democratic majorities in the legislature. If elected, he would have an opportunity to renew the effort. He would begin with an advantage in the House, where a Republican majority is likely to remain after the election. The challenge will be in the Senate, where it takes a super-majority to pass anything of substance.

How would the editors feel if Dems promised to be as intransigent as congressional republicans?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
20. What idiots
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

Isn't this the first time in modern history they have chosen a Republican? Why would they do this?

Don't they realize Romney even insulted Iowa's wind power industry recently?

21. You Know, You Can't Win Them All....
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

But to essentially see the third term of George "Turnip" Bush as a "...fresh economic vision" is just so insulting to people with an IQ over 80.

Hope this riles up the Democrats and they respond by voting.

Democrats4All

(54 posts)
23. doesn't matter
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:33 PM
Oct 2012

Just vote. Paper endorsements don't matter anymore. There's thousands of political blogs and websites now where people go for information and opinions. They are dinosaurs with limited influence now.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
24. They did this because they didn't like being
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:34 PM
Oct 2012

Told The President's interview was off the record. I knew this was going to happen when they started whining about it

Mittens wants to stop wind power credits, and this is fresh for Iowa ?

 

boingboinh

(290 posts)
25. Yikes! They've ALWAYS Chosen Democrat Each Election until Now
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:35 PM
Oct 2012

You have to go back to 1972 to see a republican on their endorsement list.

bama_blue_dot

(224 posts)
46. You seriously smell like a troll..
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:41 PM
Oct 2012

I mean, the stench is overwhelming! They actually make themselves look very petty.. They cried about the President wanting the interview "off the record" yet they talk to him anyway.. Just looks like sour grapes to me.. The endorsement would've seemed more truthful if they never complained about the "off the record" interview..

 

Piazza Riforma

(94 posts)
26. Is it just me or does it seem like
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

all these newspaper endorsements of Mitt Romney look like they're cribbed from the same source?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
28. They also endorsed Steve King!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:38 PM
Oct 2012

A far-right Republican nut.

What does that say about their credibility?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
29. I wonder what happened during the interview.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

There was this story about the interview being off the record, then on the record, and Obama telling them that they will feel better after they endorse him. I have the feeling the interview itself did not go too well.

This said, the endorsement does not mean much. Gore got it and only won the state by 0,31 %. Kerry got it and lost the state by a very small margin. Romney got it for the primary and lost the primary, so did Hillary Clinton in 2008 and JOhn Edwards in 2004.

My feeling is that the GOTV effort is more important than this endorsement.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
42. When they made a big deal out of a
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
Oct 2012

non-eventful off-the-record discussion, that was a hint.

Idiots.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
30. WTF if wrong with them???? They've lost their minds.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:41 PM
Oct 2012

economy isn't in the fucking duldrums you morons. But I guess giving Bush style tax breaks to billionaires is going to fix it. I'm just stunned they could be so stupid.

SINCE fucking WHEN does hiring a guy that pioneered OUTSOURCING a way to get people working??? wtf?

Their board was divided, and NOW the boards include the management, who had overridden things like this in the past at other papers.

Bad Thoughts

(2,525 posts)
32. Register gives Dems permission to go nuclear on next Republican Pres
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:43 PM
Oct 2012

They're rewarding the childish petulance of Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
35. They also endorsed Steve King!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:47 PM
Oct 2012

I think the Obama Campaign should use that against them if they are questioned about this by reporters.

The fact that the DMR would endorse a right-wing extremist like Steve King brings into question their endorsement of Romney.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
40. The DMR should be torn apart over the Steve King endorsement
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:04 PM
Oct 2012

It should be used against them as evidence for the lack of quality and integrity of the candidates they endorse.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
36. Damn...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:48 PM
Oct 2012

How can warmed-over supply-side, trickle-down economics be considered a "fresh" economic vision?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
37. Kiss those wind subsidies goodbye
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:52 PM
Oct 2012

It's only about 7,000 jobs. I don't know how many will be affected. Iowa has the biggest wind program in the country.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
38. Romney Campaign is already seizing the moment:
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

"The Des Moines Register endorsed Mitt Romney for President – the first time the paper has endorsed a Republican in 40 years."

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
47. Ok.I've calmed down. Let me TELL you about paper endorsements in this new corporate world.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:16 PM
Oct 2012

First. Des Moines Register is owned by GANNETT Company, who owns USA Today. it is a giant corporations with many papers and radio stations. It's based in Virginia.

Second. In the good old days, the endorsements were made by a REAL Editorial Board, in newspaper conference rooms. They usually had one or two corporate/management folks in the mix but it was mainly the people who actually covered the news, and the editors, who made the decision. This is how it is on some papers still, but mostly with the advent of corporate takeovers of so many industries, it's not the case anymore.

Case in point. I worked for a newspaper in California. It was a medium sized market. The paper was bought out by Knight Ridder then McClatchy. During one of the Bush election years, the paper endorsed Bush. (this was in a very liberal area) The editorial staff was LIVID. They were in the meetings, and all were against endorsing Bush. BUT.. the Editorial Board NOW included business personnel and the publisher (which was a person that had only biz experience, nothing editorial.) The Board couldn't come to an agreement, so the MANAGEMENT prevailed. It defied logic to endorse Bush, the arguments against it were strong, but the corporate shills/the suits had the last word.

Look at the endorsement of Romney by the DMR. They mention that the Board couldn't agree, that it went back and forth. I GUARANTEE it was NOT the editorial staff that fought for Romney. It was the suits who did that, and they prevailed. Just like the Seattle Times choosing to give tens of thousands in free ad to Rob McKenna (R), and the editorial staff protested, I believe this is the case with DMR.

Please don't think that the endorsement of Mitt represents the actual JOURNALISTS on that paper, it represents the bu$ine$$ people there. And frankly, I can only imagine how much money Mitt and his Super PACS have poured into the Gannett papers and radio stations.

Howard Fineman is losing his mind saying that this endorsement means the President will lose. But people need to know where it comes from.

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