2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoward Dean lost the 2004 Democratic Primary
However, in losing, he transformed how candidates raise awareness and money through use of the internet.
As a stalwart Hillary Clinton supporter, I hope she wins all of the states tomorrow. However, Bernie Sanders campaign will probably shape the narrative for the next 2-3 Presidential election cycles in much the same way that Howard Dean's loss built a foundation on which Barack Obama 's team built a successful campaign.
I have done more than my share of grousing about "I-VT" and that he won't join the party. Let me ask Sanders supporters this:
For the sake of discussion let's suppose that Hillary Clinton wins the nomination. If Bernie Sanders would switch from "I" to "D", could we consider him for the next Chair of the DNC? After all, Dean did a pretty good job, IIRC.
Just throwing it out there....
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)It is like they do not see how DNC loves money in politics. Hell DWS at start of the primary changed DNC rules so they could take lobbyist money, a Rule that Obama implemented.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)of voters, it makes perfect sense. If you look at it from the "status quo" perspective, it's lunacy. IMO, too much of the Party leadership thinks we can continue relying on scare tactics to attract people.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)They status quo is working because HRC is doing better. I wonder how long it will take for all MSM low information voters to die off so only people who don't get feed bullshit from Cable news are no longer largest voting block. I bet if we have a Hillary White House we are going to see a big time SOPA deal come down. They are going to start filtering the internet.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Clinton appealed heavily to the Baby Boomers. Dean appealed more to the late boomers and GenXers who were more technologically savvy and had different concerns and perspectives.
jfern
(5,204 posts)JI7
(89,262 posts)AllyCat
(16,215 posts)For whatever reason, the DNC feels the need to continue to lose statehouses, governorships, and Senatorial seats. We need Sanders in Congress if we do not have him in the White House.
Thank you for your post and your questions. And thanks for not posting in the HRC group since we are all banned for asking similar but smaller questions.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Was it Dean? Was it Rahm Emmanuel?
StevieM
(10,500 posts)He served for four years, which is the longest that party chairman usually serve for.
When Obama became president he appointed Tim Kaine to the job. Every incoming president chooses their own party chair. There was no "they" involved in the process. It was strictly Obama's decision.
NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)... but I wouldn't trust Bernie in respect of anything to do with the Democratic party.
He bashed the Democrats for decades - then asked to run on their ticket - and went right back to bashing them.
He can drag his sorry loser as back to Vermont - I don't even want to hear his name again.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Obviously, I'd call you before I'd call Bernie for the job running the party.
AllyCat
(16,215 posts)Why even pose the question if you think a fellow DUer who hates him is better ?
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)In a DU sort of way.
Do you not have friends?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)On Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:47 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Not my call, obviously ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1832252
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Hillary will be the nominee we need to unite DU and the party this is not the way to do it
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:54 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nope. The Hillary bashers accuse her of being in cahoots with the Kochs, much worse than this.
Besides this should all end on Wednesday morning.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sounds as dumb as something Trump would say, but not really hide worthy.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While I agree that bashing the "other" candidate (whichever one it is) does nothing to unite the party, I don't see it as "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate."
NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)Given the anti-HRC/anti-Dem garbage that is allowed to be posted here 24/7, it's laughable that someone thought that post should be alerted on.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)quaker bill
(8,224 posts)It is long past time that we had a career Democratic Politician standup and speak bluntly about economic issues. I am tired of weak tea and triangulation.
That aside, we agree, I would not want Bernie to spend his time attempting to fix the DLC. "22 State" Hillary will fix it all on her own.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)+1 you, and save my potty mouth for another day.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)party before they would do that.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Her platform will not be up to snuff.