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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:26 AM Oct 2012

Des Moines Register Endorsement of Romney Makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121027/OPINION03/121026026/The-Register-endorsement-Mitt-Romney-offers-a-fresh-economic-vision?Frontpage&nclick_check=1

It seems to me that this "endorsement" of Romney for POTUS actually makes a better case for re-electing President Obama but ultimately concludes that since he hasn't fixed everything in four years, it's time to try Romney because he has "fresh economic policies" (because he's white? Cause his "policies" are certainly NOT "fresh" IMHO)

"The president’s best efforts to resuscitate the stumbling economy have fallen short. Nothing indicates it would change with a second term in the White House."

Ummm.........somebody get the DMR some charts about unemployment and GDP since 2008-2009.

"The president’s prescription upon entering office was a dose of government stimulus, which was the right call because it put cash in the pockets of consumers, made investments in vital infrastructure and kept millions of teachers and police officers on the job. That stimulus was necessary to bridge the nation from recession to recovery, but the time is past for more government stimulus."

So, the DMR believes that the stimulus was the correct thing to do then but not now? The time is past for more government stimulus? Where is the evidence for this assertion? Why wouldn't more stimulus be helpful? The economy is recovering, albeit slowly. A little more stimulus/push in the right places could potentially make a huge difference IMHO.

"Early in his administration, President Obama reached out to Republicans but was rebuffed. Since then, he has abandoned the effort, and the partisan divide has hardened. That has hampered not only the economy, but the entire country. We remain a nation of red states and blue states."

So, the DMR ACKNOWLEDGES that President Obama tried to work with Republicans but didn't want to work with him and the hardening of the partisan divide that the DMR appears concerned with is supposed to be all President Obama's fault? Really? DMR goes on to tout Romney's supposed good relationship with Democrats in Massachusetts but they overrode almost all of his vetoes during his term as Governor. Doesn't that suggest that maybe they did NOT actually get along all that well?

"Romney could be assured that Democrats would work to defeat him as hard as Republicans worked against Obama is if he were to adopt the reactionary agenda of the most extreme elements of the Republican Party. Romney had to tack to the right during the primary season. Since then, he has recalibrated his campaign to focus on his concern for the middle class, and that is believable if the real Mitt Romney is the one on display as governor of Massachusetts who passed a health care reform plan that became the model for the one passed by Congress."

DMR appears to be engaging in wishful thinking here about the kind of President that they would want him to be but can't possibly be sure that he will be. Nobody has any clue about what he will be like as President. We've spent four years with President Obama and, like it or love it, we all know what he stands for. BTW they do realize that Romney says he wants to repeal his own (nationalized) plan, don't they?


"Romney should not squander an opportunity to build consensus in Washington by wasting time on issues that animate many in his party. We cannot rewind the clock on progress for minorities, women, gays and lesbians. We must make it easier for immigrants to come here to live and work legally and stop making criminals of those who are living here lawfully, paying taxes and raising families. The federal government must continue to insist on clean air and water and encourage clean and renewable energy."

More wishful thinking here. Besides, we know President Obama already supports equality for minorities, women, gays and lesbians, supports comprehensive immigration reform and clean air and water and encourages clean and renewable energy! How do they know that Romney will stand up to the religious right and not pander to them on social issues. He's repeatedly claimed to not support any serious immigration reform and he has ridiculed President Obama about renewable energy during the entire campaign. Who are they endorsing again?


IMHO the entire argument for electing Willard "Mitt" Romney to the Presidency of the United States of America essentially boils down to "Take a chance on me". Well, I sure as hell hope the American people decide (unlike the DMR) not to!

BTW, whose hand is he shaking in that second picture?
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Des Moines Register Endorsement of Romney Makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER (Original Post) Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 OP
Why is everyone freaking out about one little doc03 Oct 2012 #1
I can't figure it out either. LisaL Oct 2012 #2
Because Iowa is an important State and DMR is more influential there compared JI7 Oct 2012 #11
Well gee the Cincinnati Enquirer endorsed Romney doc03 Oct 2012 #27
Well John2 Oct 2012 #32
Daily Beast's Michael Tomasky says that's how he reads it: publisher pushing it down the ed board's chimpymustgo Oct 2012 #49
While this could be SnakeEyes Oct 2012 #53
Not freaking out over it Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #3
Then why are you YELLING AT THE END OF YOUR POST TITLE? brooklynite Oct 2012 #7
Emphasis, maybe? Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #21
I don't think its 'one little red state rag.' elleng Oct 2012 #12
Shut the front door! Tutonic Oct 2012 #15
Because the Register leans left. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2012 #37
How COULD they??? elleng Oct 2012 #4
to me it came off as them looking to get some Attention, or maybe knowing Obama is going to win JI7 Oct 2012 #5
Agree, plus the constant lying BainsBane Oct 2012 #6
I'm starting to think it all boils down to this... timlot Oct 2012 #8
spot on... Divine Discontent Oct 2012 #46
The Wheeling WV Intelligencer doc03 Oct 2012 #9
There is a HUGE difference between Wheeling, WV, and Des Moines, IA. elleng Oct 2012 #16
Iowa has what 6 electoral votes and the 538 projection is doc03 Oct 2012 #23
Its personal; I respect Iowa and Iowans. elleng Oct 2012 #31
Wheeling's paper is a far rightwing Ogden operation Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #40
You are right about that, they oun every paper in the lower Ohio valley, then you have the Tribune doc03 Oct 2012 #48
DMR says that only Romney can work with Congress and get things done Marsala Oct 2012 #10
I much prefer we elect the democratic congress instead. LisaL Oct 2012 #13
You have a point or two. n/t wisteria Oct 2012 #29
They got bought out by Bain several years ago... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #14
Literally? elleng Oct 2012 #17
Boss telling the op/ed board whom to endorse Binders Keepers Oct 2012 #18
they say in the endorsement that the Editorial Board was arguing over it. the PUBLISHER wins. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #19
Who was sitting around waiting for this endorsement anyway? NCLefty Oct 2012 #20
It fires up the Republican base exboyfil Oct 2012 #25
Exactly the points I was trying to make Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #28
It's hard to see that there's a real chance this could turn things in Mitt's favor in Iowa. FVZA_Colonel Oct 2012 #33
So where the transcript of Rmoney's interview..... Historic NY Oct 2012 #22
Considering the place is 96% white... jenw2 Oct 2012 #24
Please don't say that exboyfil Oct 2012 #26
You are right. They do not say our President is doing a bad job. wisteria Oct 2012 #30
Yeah, they kind of do, actually Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #36
You are misaligning a state that legalized gay marriage Doodler71 Oct 2012 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Mutiny In Heaven Oct 2012 #34
A fresh economic outlook....not tried since 2000 to 2008. And it worked so well then. MidwestTransplant Oct 2012 #35
LOL. Justice4All1 Oct 2012 #38
They're just pitching a fit because Obama didn't let them publish his call to the editorial board Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #39
As a local can I add my 2 cents? Doodler71 Oct 2012 #41
Shorter ver. The Des Moines Register does not speak for Iowa or Iowans. (Nt) Doodler71 Oct 2012 #43
Thanks Doodler for this report.. it explains it. The endorsement was Cha Oct 2012 #44
Yes, look at this Doodler71 Oct 2012 #51
Michael Tomasky! I love him from afar! Thanks Doodler Cha Oct 2012 #57
Didn't Obama just give these people an interview for their endorsement? He seemed to want it. THis GusFring Oct 2012 #42
DMR endorsed Romney then Santorum won Iowa caucus WallaceRitchie Oct 2012 #45
For all we know, the owner may be a republican who vetoed everyone who wanted to bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #50
So a whole bunch of papers, including OH papers, endorsed Obama. LisaL Oct 2012 #52
It makes sense for a failing newspaper One of the 99 Oct 2012 #54
DMR Endorsement Rationale - Romney Is Lying To His Base! TomCADem Oct 2012 #55
Right Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #56

JI7

(89,259 posts)
11. Because Iowa is an important State and DMR is more influential there compared
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
Oct 2012

to papers in other places.

but still they aren't that influential since the ones they endorse have lost more than won.

also i always found DMR to me more credible compared to other papers . and endorsing Romney lowers them to me.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
32. Well
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:50 AM
Oct 2012

they are owned by Gannett as well as the Detroit Freedom Press. Did you see that papers' endorsement of Mitt Romney? THe Des Moines Register is also owned by Ganett whose owner is a conservative Republican. Could there be a skunk here? Their endorsements sound similar? All three right out of Mitt Romney's playbook. That is what you when you have the monopoly of many of the country's newspapers. Ganett's owner is also into layoffs,firing and downsizing and outsourcing. What they really like is Mitt's way of doing business. The rest Romnesia. I'm really liberal one day but the next strictly conservative when you see my choice of endorsements. We reject your prescription of Obamacare because it hurts our profits in the health industry for profits. How is that for an endorsement?

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
49. Daily Beast's Michael Tomasky says that's how he reads it: publisher pushing it down the ed board's
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 09:54 AM
Oct 2012

throat.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/28/the-des-moines-register-s-practical-joke.html

The Des Moines Register's Practical Joke
by Michael Tomasky Oct 28, 2012 7:50 AM EDT

This Romney endorsement editorial, if you actually bother to read it, is little more than a practical joke. First of all, it has all the hallmarks of having been ordered by the publisher over the objections of the editorial board. Normally, a sentence like "the Register’s editorial board, as it should, had a vigorous debate over this endorsement," translated into blunt English means: "Our idiot publisher forced this tripe down our throats, and we're counting on you the more knowledgeable readers to understand this."

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It's the only explanation. And very scary stuff.

SnakeEyes

(1,407 posts)
53. While this could be
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012

Gannett has owned DMR since 1985 yet only now are endorsing a Republican in the general election.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
12. I don't think its 'one little red state rag.'
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
Oct 2012

Iowa isn't thoroughly red,has and has had many important Dem elected officials, is well-educated, Des Moines is a major commercial/political/social city, and the Register usually does better (as I recall.)

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
15. Shut the front door!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:35 AM
Oct 2012

Haven't you heard that Howard Fineman declared the race as over? Howard who goes by the daytime title of "journalist" declared the race as officially over this afternoon at 4:56 p.m. PST. Lets all move on.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
37. Because the Register leans left.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:33 AM
Oct 2012

And Iowa isn't a "red state". Might want to check into who won the last Presidential election and where he got his first major boost from.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
5. to me it came off as them looking to get some Attention, or maybe knowing Obama is going to win
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:30 AM
Oct 2012

they want to throw something to the other side.

doc03

(35,359 posts)
23. Iowa has what 6 electoral votes and the 538 projection is
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:51 AM
Oct 2012

296. 296-6=290 It may not be the end of the world if we don't carry Iowa.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
40. Wheeling's paper is a far rightwing Ogden operation
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:38 AM
Oct 2012

anyone who knows the history of their editorials and pandering to coal barons knew they would back Willard

doc03

(35,359 posts)
48. You are right about that, they oun every paper in the lower Ohio valley, then you have the Tribune
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 09:47 AM
Oct 2012

Review in Pitsburgh, that's all we see in these parts.

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
10. DMR says that only Romney can work with Congress and get things done
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
Oct 2012

Basically they're giving in to Republicans taking the functioning of the government hostage. "Oh, the House Republicans refuse to compromise at all? Guess we have no choice but to elect a Republican president. Senate Democrats will surely cave."

Binders Keepers

(369 posts)
18. Boss telling the op/ed board whom to endorse
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:36 AM
Oct 2012

How these things usually work is that the fat-cat publisher lays down the law about whom the paper will endorse, and then it's the editorial editor's job to write it up and make it sound plausible (or else be fired).

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
19. they say in the endorsement that the Editorial Board was arguing over it. the PUBLISHER wins.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:37 AM
Oct 2012

Every time nowadays. whey can't agree, the people who sign the checks, wins. Period.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
25. It fires up the Republican base
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
Oct 2012

I know what it will sound like in my office next week. It is a man bites dog story, and I think it will have legs in this state. It is close here, and yoiu put IA with NH and we counteract Romney's push into WI. We are important if we don't win NV.

I agree completely with the post. The editorial is engaging in magical thinking of the highest order. They list what is important to them (which is Obama's policies) but say that because Obama cannot work with a recalcitrant Congress, you must let the bipartisan "hero" Romney work with them (the one with 600 vetos many of them overridden on his record). It is almost like going back to an abuser and saying it will be better this time.

If Romney wins this paper's endorsement will haunt them for a very long time.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
28. Exactly the points I was trying to make
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:55 AM
Oct 2012

I know that most of us around here will yawn and move on with our lives but there are some people whom take this stuff seriously. Whether it will have a profound effect on the election or not none of us know (maybe, maybe not) but it's hard not to want to call BS on something so flagrantly offensive as this endorsement, particularly when it might well carry some weight with some people (i.e. low information voters), not to mention the fact that Iowa is going to be close this year.

 

FVZA_Colonel

(4,096 posts)
33. It's hard to see that there's a real chance this could turn things in Mitt's favor in Iowa.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:51 AM
Oct 2012

The endorsement just seems like such a mess that I can't understand people not seeing it for what it is: a load of nonsense.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
26. Please don't say that
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:54 AM
Oct 2012

Obama is President in part because of the support he received in this state. I don't know why the editorial board with endorsed Obama in 2008 made this decision (it surely is not in the editorial) but do not paint our state with that broad brush. We are not perfect, but many in this state really do try.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
30. You are right. They do not say our President is doing a bad job.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:03 AM
Oct 2012

They just seem to think thay maybe-and a big maybe Romney will get more cooperation in Congress. The problem is what will be proposed and voted on. I don't think they gave that much though.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
36. Yeah, they kind of do, actually
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:08 AM
Oct 2012

they do appear to think that things aren't going to be much better, economically, if President Obama gets a second term.
"The president’s best efforts to resuscitate the stumbling economy have fallen short. Nothing indicates it would change with a second term in the White House."

They also seem to believe- simply on the basis of his support of the same policies that were in effect from 2001-2008- that Romney will somehow turn out be that elusive "confidence fairy" that our "job creators" have needed for the past 4 years:

"Consumers must feel more confident about their own economic futures to begin spending on the products and services that power the economy. A renewed sense of confidence will spark renewed investment by American companies. Industry will return to full production and hiring will begin again.

That should come with Mitt Romney in the White House."


Seriously

They are also seriously delusional if they think that Romney is going to (be allowed to) govern as a moderate if elected POTUS and, even if he does, the Republicans in the House are going to go apeshit and quickly abandon him, making HIM a one-term President as well.

Doodler71

(443 posts)
47. You are misaligning a state that legalized gay marriage
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:58 AM
Oct 2012

And is very progressive. I have lived in several states and the people here are the least racist I have met. They have welcomed and supported multiple social programs with state funding for refugees, migrants, and displaced people.


I understand being upset that the paper didn't endorse the President, but please don't equate that with the opinion of the people who live here or make generalizations regarding how the people here support President Obama.

Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Justice4All1

(119 posts)
38. LOL.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:33 AM
Oct 2012

This is not going to move the needle either way. Obama has already won IA, now move on.

they've so much as called Myth a liar admitting they don't know which Myth he would be? like i id, the storry needs to be about the fact that Myth's Bain Capital owns DMR, so of course as the boss, he tells them whom to elect.

People don't rely on newspaper endorsements, as part of the 1%. They're weary of these organizations. proof: The primary endorsement didn't help myth win, in spite off all his advertising money.

Ron Paul as 1st, Santorum & finally RMoney. so muh for the people giving this garbage credence. Dem congress would make myth's life a living hell on pssing anything.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
39. They're just pitching a fit because Obama didn't let them publish his call to the editorial board
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:35 AM
Oct 2012

They had a whiny editorial about it last week - and this nonsensical endorsement is just the paper playing Media Heathers and trying to get even.

Doodler71

(443 posts)
41. As a local can I add my 2 cents?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:40 AM
Oct 2012

First, Des Moines is fairly liberal and very progressive. Rural Iowa is generally fiscally conservative, but compassionate on social issues. We tend to split alternately between republicans and Dems in local government, but in most cases work together.

Second, the Des Moines Register is not locally owned any longer. It was purchased by Gannet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannett In the past seven years the paper has had massive turn over and layoffs. Whole departments were annihilated. Most of the staff writers were fired when they had philosophical differences with the new editors that were brought in with a different slant on journalism. Many writers were replaced with people with much less experience or credentials. The quality of the paper has degraded and subscriptions fell so low there was talk of only publishing it twice weekly and Sunday.

I know people at the Register and this "endorsement" should be taken with a large grain of salt. The decision came from way up the ladder and I believe there is even reference to that in the article. We all have bosses to answer to and this is the case here. This is pure and simple out of state corporate pressure.

(Edited for spelling)

Cha

(297,446 posts)
44. Thanks Doodler for this report.. it explains it. The endorsement was
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:49 AM
Oct 2012

disingenuous with rw written all over it.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
57. Michael Tomasky! I love him from afar! Thanks Doodler
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

I just got back on DU after a bit of a Tsunami crisis on Sat night.

Thank you so much for the link!

 

GusFring

(756 posts)
42. Didn't Obama just give these people an interview for their endorsement? He seemed to want it. THis
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:40 AM
Oct 2012

looks bad, but it seems that the powers that be made the decision.

WallaceRitchie

(242 posts)
45. DMR endorsed Romney then Santorum won Iowa caucus
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:52 AM
Oct 2012

They endorsed Romney for the party nomination but Santorum was declared winner of the Iowa caucus. People still need to go out and vote.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
52. So a whole bunch of papers, including OH papers, endorsed Obama.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:35 AM
Oct 2012

And yet, here we are discussing some Iowa paper, which endorsed Romney.
What gives? This paper doesn't have the sort of influence. Ignore it.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
55. DMR Endorsement Rationale - Romney Is Lying To His Base!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
Oct 2012

That is it in a nutshell. The DMR is endorsing Romney by gambling that his more extremist positions are lies and his recent flip flops are the truth! Conversely, DMR gives Republicans a free pass on their obstructionist behavior. In other words, reward Republicans for their bad behavior!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
56. Right
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:53 PM
Oct 2012

that's one of the weirder aspects of the endorsement. They are gambling on Romney not being an extremist and ignoring the fact that we all KNOW President Obama isn't.

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