Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
40 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Obama cancelling campaign stops in CO & VA due to Sandy - Do you agree? (Original Post) Hawaii Hiker Oct 2012 OP
He's gotta be on top of the situation. He is the Commander In Chief. mucifer Oct 2012 #1
That's somewhat irrelevant. earthside Oct 2012 #27
The national guard in disaster struck states might be federalized, thus he would be C-in-C Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #29
Oh my God. Come on. Is it really Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #35
He absolutely has to do this. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #2
Politically, much better to act Presidential. nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #3
He may very well have his hands full in a couple days. I don't think TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #4
I think it's for the best Third Doctor Oct 2012 #5
Obama will get more news coverage Doctor Jack Oct 2012 #6
Agreed. Regardless, it's a dumb thread. Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #38
But when you are the sitting President and the worst storm in 100 years is approaching... BelleCarolinaPeridot Oct 2012 #7
The storm works in his favor anyway. Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #36
Yes, people have been hysterical lately... BelleCarolinaPeridot Oct 2012 #40
People who go to rallies presumably are going to vote for Obama anyway. LisaL Oct 2012 #8
When is the storm to pass through the NE and courseofhistory Oct 2012 #9
He may be working with FEMA and such TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #10
+1 Historic NY Oct 2012 #14
+1 BelleCarolinaPeridot Oct 2012 #15
He can probably do his job and do himself just as much good campaign wise brewens Oct 2012 #11
Pat Robertson is dialed in on that Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #16
If someone got hurt, he would be blamed. NCLefty Oct 2012 #12
The President has a job to do Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #13
I agree, Hiker PlanetBev Oct 2012 #17
Of course I agree... TeacherB87 Oct 2012 #18
If he didn't do this, tomg Oct 2012 #19
Yup Faith9326 Oct 2012 #22
Well Faith9326 Oct 2012 #20
Could he send surrogates like Bill Clinton and exboyfil Oct 2012 #21
I'm sure surrogates will be everywhere. He has a job to do. mucifer Oct 2012 #23
Act like a President get re-elected like one tbennett76 Oct 2012 #24
This will play much better, for those who care about such things. Will garner him more votes than uppityperson Oct 2012 #25
I agree. GOP will criticize him no matter what... ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #26
It really sucks how many storms there are in the U.S. TroyD Oct 2012 #28
moot point, we've got a tsunami, or 2 of them now as well flamingdem Oct 2012 #30
He is the President Presidentcokedupfratboy Oct 2012 #31
Its politically necessary-not to mention a huge boon to us NewsCenter28 Oct 2012 #33
Seriously, were you asleep during Katrina? Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #32
Acting like an adult that has actual responsibilities while Mittens campaigns will be more favorable Jennicut Oct 2012 #34
R U F+cking kidding? Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #37
The President would be criticized if he didn't cancel.Rmoney has also cancelled campaign stops in VA octoberlib Oct 2012 #39

earthside

(6,960 posts)
27. That's somewhat irrelevant.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

The president is commander-in-chief of the military ... that particular duty will only effect military installations possibly affected by the storm, or if some military assistance is required to help out people in trouble.

As head of the executive branch the president has a lot of responsibilities if the storm turns into a real disaster.

I make this point because too many folks use the term 'commander-in-chief' like that means he is the 'commander' of everyone in the country -- he is not my commander-in-chief because I am not in the military.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
29. The national guard in disaster struck states might be federalized, thus he would be C-in-C
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:43 AM
Oct 2012

Disaster response is usually a joint military and civilian endeavor. I'd say that commander-in-chief is appropriate for this instance.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,781 posts)
2. He absolutely has to do this.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:50 AM
Oct 2012

If he kept campaigning during a dangerous, destructive storm it could be much more politically damaging than missing a few speeches. Anyhow, it's his job.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. He may very well have his hands full in a couple days. I don't think
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:50 AM
Oct 2012

he has a choice. Mittens, of course, has no day job, and matters to no one.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
5. I think it's for the best
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:50 AM
Oct 2012

This is a huge storm and he should monitor what's going on. If he did not I'm certain the Romney and the GOP would use it against him. He can reschedule these rallies later this week probably. That is if the weather permits.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
6. Obama will get more news coverage
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
Oct 2012

Besides, if Romney is campaigning and Obama has stopped for a few days, Romney will look like (more of) a douche.

BelleCarolinaPeridot

(9,609 posts)
7. But when you are the sitting President and the worst storm in 100 years is approaching...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
Oct 2012

He knows he needs to be at the White House to monitor the affects of this storm.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
36. The storm works in his favor anyway.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:09 AM
Oct 2012

It's a potential domestic crisis and people naturally rally around the incumbent in crisis. It also helps that most people trust him on these kinds of issues/circumstances. So frankly the storm is a win to me and the obsession about it's potential effect on the election is ridiculous. At this rate most of the folks on this board will pass out from hysterics before they even get to vote.

BelleCarolinaPeridot

(9,609 posts)
40. Yes, people have been hysterical lately...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:18 AM
Oct 2012

There was that week after the first debate that my blood pressure was up. I feel better now than I did a month ago. The President looks like he is cool, calm and collected - so can I.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
8. People who go to rallies presumably are going to vote for Obama anyway.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
Oct 2012

He has no choice, really. He can't campaign when there is this supposed monster storm going on.

courseofhistory

(801 posts)
9. When is the storm to pass through the NE and
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
Oct 2012

when is it expected to be "over" as far as the storm itself goes? I know there will be the aftermath but I'm speaking of the storm itself. Can't he go later in the week to those states he's cancelling? Biden could go instead or Bill Clinton.

brewens

(13,603 posts)
11. He can probably do his job and do himself just as much good campaign wise
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:53 AM
Oct 2012

on tv. He has a good excuse to show himself as a leader in a time of disaster. He might even do so good as to draw fire from Romney on having caused the storm intentionally.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
12. If someone got hurt, he would be blamed.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:53 AM
Oct 2012

So yes, he clearly has to do this. Also, what someone said about needing to be at the White House and in-charge during a possible crisis.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
13. The President has a job to do
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:54 AM
Oct 2012

republicans can have a birthday party and not get blamed for dereliction of duty but not dems

bush says let them eat cake when told of Katrina
he said it was more important to give mcain a big kiss than do his job

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
17. I agree, Hiker
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:56 AM
Oct 2012

I've got a feeling Mitt's gonna look very small this week. Running around hysterically from state to state, while Obama is looking real presidential, on the job, monitoring the storm.

 

TeacherB87

(249 posts)
18. Of course I agree...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:58 AM
Oct 2012

Just like with everything else he has done, he's putting the interest of the country ahead of political interests. He is a good man and good president, and we are ALL better off because of it. I am in the direct path of this storm. And there is no one I would rather have managing the federal response to this storm than him.

tomg

(2,574 posts)
19. If he didn't do this,
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:59 AM
Oct 2012

would he be the knd of man we would want as president? He is doing his job and the right thing.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
21. Could he send surrogates like Bill Clinton and
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:02 AM
Oct 2012

Michelle Obama? They could trumpet how being CinC is more important than campaigning.

Of course the Right Wing Talking point could be - "See he is too lazy to do both jobs".

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
25. This will play much better, for those who care about such things. Will garner him more votes than
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:10 AM
Oct 2012

being out campaigning. As well as being the right thing to do. For those of us who care about that thing.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
26. I agree. GOP will criticize him no matter what...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:12 AM
Oct 2012

...he has to stay on top of the Sandy situation tho - as President that is his primary responsibility. Getting re-elected has to come second. If he stayed on the trail and Sandy is as bad as they're predicting, lots of damage, maybe even lives lost - GOP would be even MORE critical saying he was "too busy campaigning" to be bothered. Can't have that. Would be very bad.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
28. It really sucks how many storms there are in the U.S.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:16 AM
Oct 2012

There were storms at the time of the Conventions this year too.

The outdoor speech had to be brought indoors in Charlotte because of weather.

Looks like Obama will be missing his Virginia appearance with Bill Clinton on Monday.

Is he still going to be appearing with Bill in Ohio & Florida?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
30. moot point, we've got a tsunami, or 2 of them now as well
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:44 AM
Oct 2012

all on deck, or off deck if you're in the path!

31. He is the President
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:47 AM
Oct 2012

He has to make sure everyone in the country is ok. This is about more than a campaign. This is a serious situation that needs monitoring.

And oh yeah, if he DID screw up this situation, it could be really detrimental to his campaign. So there are political and practical considerations.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
33. Its politically necessary-not to mention a huge boon to us
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:54 AM
Oct 2012

As a poster above stated, Mittens will look small and only concerned with obtaining his "holy grail" this week running from state-to-state like a chicken with his head cut off while President Obama directs the disaster prep and then the rescue and recovery operations not to mention visiting the disaster scene and comforting the victims. This will help to rally the nation to his side and then the unemployment report on Friday will send him surging to re-election on Tuesday.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
32. Seriously, were you asleep during Katrina?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:49 AM
Oct 2012

As President you do not want to be video taped or photographed doing anything during a natural disaster that doesn't involve responding to the disaster. It doesn't matter if you can run disaster relief on Air Force One in between campaign stops. It still conveys to the country that your focus is elsewhere.

See W below...

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
34. Acting like an adult that has actual responsibilities while Mittens campaigns will be more favorable
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:02 AM
Oct 2012

to Obama then the rallies would. As someone in the storm's path, I appreciate him putting aside the appearances and concentrating on the storm. I was just reading a blog by Geoff Fox, a well known meteorologist in Connecticut for years. Been around since I was a kid in the 80's. Says this could be close to the 1938 Long Island Hurricane in terms of damage to the coast. Very scary stuff and making me more worried. I think a lot of us in the northeast will thank the President for staying on top of the storm.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
37. R U F+cking kidding?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:10 AM
Oct 2012

This is a contender for dumbest post of the week. Come on. This isn't Deep Impact, people. And he's not Morgan Freeman.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
39. The President would be criticized if he didn't cancel.Rmoney has also cancelled campaign stops in VA
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:13 AM
Oct 2012

....SNIP..... For Romney, the upheaval of the coming storm means that rather than head to a state where most polls have shown a tight race with President Barack Obama – Virginia – he will now go to Ohio and appear with vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan. The practical reality for both candidates is in dealing with the storm in a careful way. But Obama has the advantage of being able to visit storm-ravaged areas as president. Obama’s events Saturday were dotted with briefing calls related to the storm. .....SNIP......

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82967.html#ixzz2AZTUwpiv

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Obama cancelling campaign...